does your heart beat by its own accord?

do you have to ask your lungs to breath?

does your not hair grow by itself?

does your stomach digest your food by itself?

were you even aware that you were growing in your mothers womb?

your body is in a state of ISLAM, It SUBMITS ENTIRELY TO THE WILL OF GOD. it does what GOD TELLS IT without question. you do not have to even THINK about all of the functions that your body must do to live, it just does it. Someone (or something) which SUBMITS TO THE WILL OF GOD is called a MUSLIM.

in the Quran it says that even the stars and the trees prostrate (bow) to Allah alone in submission.

so if even huge and powerful STARS and TREES SUBMIT to Allah and fulfill the purpose that they were made, what is stopping YOU? a mere human who can die from a simple illness or from as little as 2 inches of water?

we have been given intelligence and a soul. we must use our GOD GIVEN intelligence to study Gods signs and find the truth and keep our SOUL on the straight path and pure. the only way to do this is to be in a state of ISLAM. you can't SAY you follow ISLAM you have to 'BE' ISLAM. that is, you have to BE in a state of SUBMISSION TO GODS WILL. It HAS to be your CONCIOUS WAY OF LIFE.

in the Quran it says that the only religion/way of life that will be accepted by God is ISLAM.

and why, after reading this, would you NOT want to say you live in a state of ISLAM?

why would you not want to call yourself MUSLIM?

why would you not want to say you SUBMIT TO GOD?

is He not worthy to be SUBMITTED TO?

and think, why were we put on this earth if not to look after it and earn our place in paradise? what better way is there to do that than by following Gods laws and worshipping Him only?

is the devil not the enemy of man? is the devils ONLY purpose to keep you away from worshipping and SUBMITTING to God or not?

we are born MUSLIM, its ourselves that takes us away from being ina state of ISLAM.

you can call yourself christian, hindu,jew or bhuddist but first you must ACCEPT you were CREATED BY GOD IN A STATE OF ISLAM.

so really, would you not like to call yourself a MUSLIM?

Nice thread!

Alhamdullillah

i would like to see a few replies to this.

this, in essence, is what Islam is REALLY about.

being in a state of Islam connects you with the UNIVERSE as a whole and puts you mankind in their correct postion and status within it.

do the plansets and stars not orbit and travel like they have been set out to by Allah?

do animals not live, eat, hunt, reproduce and die like they are supposed to?

does your body not rot after death and become food for worms? do these worms in turn not become food for birds or fertilisation for the earth?

EVERYTHING has its place and purpose. EVERYTHING is made in a state of ISLAM.

now, would you really not like to call yourself a MUSLIM?

@ TheStudent :



Please be as so kind to answer this question for me . In an earlier theard / posting you mentioned that Christians have gone astray correct ? Therefore your implication tothat is that's where the need for Islamarouse,to set what was not necessarily incorrect but more or less seen as notbeing followed through adqueatelyby Christians to be set on course adequately and Islam was that answer right ? Are we Following my train of thought thus far ? So my question is this , why fix or incorporate a diffrent idealogy with what was made perfect in the begining ? Is the same to be conculded with that arguement that ifIslam at some point becomes the dominate religion on the face of the earth and people begin to go astray from that faith , do we purpose to change Islam becuase Muslims aren't following the Koran ? So then why would we do the same with Christianity ? The thought is absurd. I'm most interested in your feedback.



Nasima.

nasima,
i know it may be hard for you to describe yourself as 'muslim' as you have a stereotypical view of the word. i know that people 'lock off' when they see or hear 'islam' or 'muslim'

let me put it another way- do you SUBMIT fully to God? do you fullfil the purpose of God of putting us on this earth? that is the purpose of looking after the earth, each other and worshipping Him solely?

if you answer YES then you are in a STATE of SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD. or simply ISLAM in arabic. you fulfill YOUR PURPOSE. just like animals, plants, rocks, stars each fulfill their purpose.

can you now comprehend that Submission to the will of God, or islam in arabic, is the only religion that is logically correct?

nasima, if you uncomfortable with the WORD islam, then are you comfortable with calling yourself a SUBMITTER?

think, does christianity teach you anything else BUT SUBMISSION? if it does then what is YOUR purpose on earth?

ive always said that there are people who may not call themselves muslim, but actually are.

as regards your other point;
in the Quran it states that in regards to judaism, the jews edited and re-wrote part of their Holy Book, the Torah, for their own personal gain.
now ask yourself: what is the purpose of a prophet? are they not just warners and teachers? if judaism had not become corrupted, what would be the need of ANY prophets after Moses? ask yourself- what was the role of jesus if not to guide the jews back on to the straight path? if they were ALREADY on the straight path, jesus' role would be USELESS. do you see?
so what has happened through the dawn of Islam is simply what has happened from the time of the first prophet, Adam. the people have gradually strayed off of the straight path, and as God loves us, He sends more prophets as warners and teachers. but with islam, the prophet was not a jew or christian. in the quran it is written that a prophet was sent to ALL nations, speaking in their language and knowing their ways. Muhammad was sent to ALL nations as a mercy to guide us and show us HOW to be in a STATE OF SUBMISION.


Muhammad has made prophecies that Jesus will return as a muslim, after which everyone will be muslim. he will create a peaceful 'heaven' on earth.
also he predicted a great war which the proof of we can see now. very soon the world will be DIVIDED into muslim and non-muslim. these are the 2 great sides. i have read the by 2055 50% of the worlds population will be muslim, the source was a UN website.

As a child of God my MIND , BODY , SOUL , is in continuous submission to God . My Body is not in a state of Islam , figuratively speaking . My body remains at a state of Peace becuase of my Love and willingness to surrender to his purpose whatever he wills it for me.
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look what you have written here - As a child of God my MIND , BODY , SOUL , is in continuous submission to God .-

what is the arabic for 'continous submission to God'?

the answer is ISLAM.

all must read and understand- SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF GOD is the essence of a Muslims belief

We are born in submission to our stomachs

3:64 O People of the Book, why do you dispute about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Do you not understand?
65 Behold! You are they who disputed about that of which you had knowledge; why then do you dispute about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows while you know not.
66 Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian, but he was (an) upright (man), a Muslim; and he was not one of the polytheists.
67 The nearest of people to Abraham are surely those who follow him and this Prophet and those who believe. And Allah is the Friend of the believers.

6:162 Say: As for me, my Lord has guided me to the right path -- a right religion, the faith of Abraham, the upright one, and he was not of the polytheists.

22:78 And strive hard for Allah with due striving. He has chosen you and has not laid upon you any hardship in religion -- the faith of your father Abraham. He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; so keep up prayer, and pay the poor-rate, and hold fast to Allah. He is your Protector -- excellent the Protector and excellent the Helper!

30:30 So set your face for religion, being upright, the nature made by Allah in which He has created men. There is no altering Allah's creation. That is the right religion -- but most people know not --
31 Turning to Him; and keep your duty to Him, and keep up prayer and be not of the polytheists,

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Now, without some of the "culture specific" terms...

3:64 O People of the Book, why do you dispute about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Do you not understand?
65 Behold! You are they who disputed about that of which you had knowledge; why then do you dispute about that of which you have no knowledge? And (the One True God) knows while you know not.
66 Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian, but he was (an) upright (man), a (submitter to the One True God); and he was not one of the polytheists.
67 The nearest of people to Abraham are surely those who follow him and this Prophet and those who believe. And (the One True God) is the Friend of the believers.

6:162 Say: As for me, my Lord has guided me to the right path -- a right religion, the faith of Abraham, the upright one, and he was not of the polytheists.

22:78 And strive hard for (the One True God) with due striving. He has chosen you and has not laid upon you any hardship in religion -- the faith of your father Abraham. He named you (submitters to the One True God) before and in this, that the Messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; so keep up prayer, and pay the poor-rate, and hold fast to (the One True God). He is your Protector -- excellent the Protector and excellent the Helper!

30:30 So set your face for religion, being upright, the nature made by (the One True God) in which He has created men. There is no altering (the One True God's) creation. That is the right religion -- but most people know not --
31 Turning to Him; and keep your duty to Him, and keep up prayer and be not of the polytheists,

From these verses, we can see that although the TERM "ISLAM" may not have been used among the former prophets, the ESSENCE of what Islam IS has been in existence since the creation of man...and before.

RM

kanobi,
'We are born in submission to our stomachs'- kanobi, so you submit to your stomach!! is your stomach your god!! is it your stomach you worship or God who created your stomach? have you never fasted before? if you have then you will know that the stomach is something you can conquer.

jaziasha,

youre a HUMAN BEING right? HUMAN is your 'physical' description.
you dont have to name yourself HUMAN you just ARE. you cant help BEING one.

now ISLAM is the same. once you accpet your place and position and PURPOSE in the universe , you become more than just a Human Being, you move into a state of 'ISLAM BEING'. True SUBMITT