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11-04-05, 03:24 AM
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.
Salaam (Peace) to all.
Here's how it works:
The Agent finds two groups who have minor differences, but who would otherwise not make a big deal over them. Then he chooses a side, let's say, Group A, and poses as a member of that group.
Then, he/she goes over to Group B and and verbally attacks their program or beliefs, identifying himself or herself as a member of Group A. This evokes the anger of Group B - not towards the impostor alone, but also toward the whole of Group A - out of their desire to defend themselves. So, when Group B responds in kind to a perceived attack by Group A, manifested by this impostor, then Group A (the true ones), out of that same love for their position, come to the defense of their position.
Before you know it, Group A and Group B are fighting and killing each other, which is what the Agent of Satan wanted in the first place.
On this board, there are people from various different schools of thought, but we ALL are capable of REASONABLE and CIVIL discourse. However, some people, no matter how pleasant or innocuous a presentation is, they feel the need to disrupt and/or argue against the clear evidence for no other apparent reason than to facilitate conflict - these are the Agents of Satan.
Some of these agents CALL themselves Christians. Some call themselves Muslims. Some call themselves Jews or Hebrews. Some call themselves Pan-Africanists. But the methodology is the same across the board...create and perpetuate conflict...discourage and work to destroy agreement and harmony.
Something to think about.
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11-04-05, 04:31 AM
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As Salaamu 'Alaikum, This is truth indeed. Shukran, for this post, brother. Salaam. OriginalBM
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11-04-05, 06:01 AM
Ah yes!
I see what you mean bro...
But if Group B is in dire error and makes blasmphemous and proposterous claims on God and humanity, themperhaps Group B NEEDS to have their beliefs attacked.
Let us say that this Group B calls themselves Muslims, but believe that humans are the only gods and since they don't believe in life after death...they teach that one should eat grass once a week to life to be 1000.
Now if they call themselves Muslim, but still believe this....thensurly theyare in error regardless as to whom points it out be it Satan, a disgruntled brutha, former member, whoever.....right?
So maybe the leader of Group B should reform his group and it's beliefs and start teaching and preaching the truth.
blkscholarThen Satan would have no juice.
Because the steel is black...the attitude is exact. - Public Enemy
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11-04-05, 06:28 AM
Blessings 2 U & UR family ONE ZERO SEVEN,
Thank you very much 4 ur wise words of wisdom
& reminding those who have 4gotten the cababilities of the liar satan, who mascarades in sheeps clothing as an Angle.
in the end "Good will over come evil"
Peace-Light-much Love
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11-04-05, 06:44 AM
Sistar,
All Praise is due to Allah (God), the Source of all Wisdom. Thank you for your words.
May Allah Bless and Keep you and your loved ones, and grant you the Best of Life, Love, Freedom, Justice and Equality.
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11-04-05, 09:16 AM
Name them please
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11-04-05, 10:52 AM
I feel this thread, Because thats how it usually happens. Personally, I like to hear other peoples different views because it makes me smarter by having to constantly research my own theories. I feel that if what you believe is true, your way of thinking should be able to withstand questioning,researching and even counter beliefs. People shouldnot insulteachother but debating, discussing and examing many different aspects of our religions and beliefs is healthy in my eyes. Makes you mentally sharper.
To believe is to have doubt and no facts but to know is to have facts and no doubt.
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20-04-05, 08:17 PM
the biggest agent is the mind. the mind that holds Beliefs, Opinions, Thoughts. of
which, the majority is programmed into us from the day we're born. I ask any of
you. Do you have any thoughts/beliefs etcthat have not been part of your
conditioning that haven't been subliminally installed? do you have any thoghts that are your own?
The mind tricks us to believe we
are important, our religion takes presidency over that of others, our opinions are
important etc. if you had no thoughts, no belief. could you be offended? could the
agent make you react or act? the soul tells us all we need to know. the mind tells us
what we think we need to know. thats how the agent works best. through the mind.
evil and good only exists as a thought as a belief. Everything is as it is
LOSE YOUR MIND PEOPLE. PEACE N LOVE EVERYTIME
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21-04-05, 01:36 AM
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In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.
Salaam (Peace) to all.
Here's how it works:
The Agent finds two groups who have minor differences, but who would otherwise not make a big deal over them. Then he chooses a side, let's say, Group A, and poses as a member of that group.
Then, he/she goes over to Group B and and verbally attacks their program or beliefs, identifying himself or herself as a member of Group A. This evokes the anger of Group B - not towards the impostor alone, but also toward the whole of Group A - out of their desire to defend themselves. So, when Group B responds in kind to a perceived attack by Group A, manifested by this impostor, then Group A (the true ones), out of that same love for their position, come to the defense of their position.
Before you know it, Group A and Group B are fighting and killing each other, which is what the Agent of Satan wanted in the first place.
On this board, there are people from various different schools of thought, but we ALL are capable of REASONABLE and CIVIL discourse. However, some people, no matter how pleasant or innocuous a presentation is, they feel the need to disrupt and/or argue against the clear evidence for no other apparent reason than to facilitate conflict - these are the Agents of Satan.
Some of these agents CALL themselves Christians. Some call themselves Muslims. Some call themselves Jews or Hebrews. Some call themselves Pan-Africanists. But the methodology is the same across the board...create and perpetuate conflict...discourage and work to destroy agreement and harmony.
Something to think about.
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Watch out for the ones calling themselves Christians or Muslims. Actually it's alot easier than that, or it would be were it not for the fact that one cannot see with whom hecommunicates in a messageboard.
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21-04-05, 06:28 AM
"The mind tricks us to believe we are important"
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not the mind, the EGO.
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a to be a true muslim you dont have to CALL yourself one, you ARE one. You ARE in a state of ISLAM.
like i keep sayingm there are many people who dont call themselves muslim, but actually are and vice-versa. as long as you believe in 'LA ILLA HA ILALLAH' and live CORRECT, God will forgive you.
YaHuWaH Eloh(im) - HuwaAllah - He is Allah
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22-04-05, 06:28 AM
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.
Salaam (Peace) to all.
I just wanted to add an afterthought or two.
Attacking another person's position in NO WAY proves the validity of your own. It only proves that you lack the ability to defend your position with Truth.
If you attack or criticize my beliefs, I don't prove my position is right by attacking YOURS.
If Truth is on my side, I don't need to attack anyone. All I need do is speak the truth that I know.
I'm telling you...the agents of Satan LOVE to get brothers fighting and killing each other. Let's make things difficult for these rotten characters.
If we all believe that God is One, then our common Belief in the Oneness of God should facilitate Oneness among those who believe in God. Let us strive to establish more UNITY among the Believers in God, or at the very least, MUTUAL RESPECT and APPRECIATION for the various Travelers and the Paths which they have chosen.
All who are of the One True God will agree. The agents of Satan will not.
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22-04-05, 07:04 PM
An agent of Satan works just like 'The Student'
Yeah and what!!!! if u dont like it then go suck on a dippi
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22-04-05, 07:25 PM
Udibiallah min al-shaitan al rajiim
as jesus said:
let him without sin cast the first stone.
YaHuWaH Eloh(im) - HuwaAllah - He is Allah
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