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Islam: The Perfect Religion
Almighty Allah says in the Glorious Qur'an:
This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion (5:3)
Almighty Allah says in the Glorious Qur'an:
Verily, this Qur'an guides to that which is most just and right and gives glad tidings to the believers (in the Oneness of Allah and His Messenger, Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward (Paradise)(17:9)
Almighty Allah says:
And We have sent down to you the Book (the Qur'an) as an exposition of everything, a guidance, a mercy, and glad tidings to those who have submitted themselves (to Allah as Muslims)(16:89)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
I have guided you to the right path which is as bright as daylight is thus, whoever deviates from this path is doomed to perdition.
He also said:
I have left to you the Book of Allah and my traditions, if you hold fast to them, you will never be mislead.
In the first of the above-mentioned Qur'anic verses, Allah stated that He had perfected the religion of Islam to be suitable and corresponding to the needs of mankind in every place, time and nation. Islam is not only free from all defects, but, it also corresponds to the needs of mankind and does not impose any unnecessary burden on people.
Allah also stated that He had completed His blessings for the Muslim nation by bestowing upon them this perfect, magnanimous and great religion which forms the message of Muhammad, the last Prophet of Allah. Allah promised to give help and victory to Islam over all enemies, and stated that He had chosen it to be the religion of mankind, and that any other religion, whatever it may be, will not gain His acceptance.
The second verse indicates that the Holy Qur'an is an illuminative perfect method of life which guides people to true solutions for both mundane and religious problems. Whatever a deed may be, the Qur'an has explained to us whether it may be good or evil. The Qur'an not only guides us to solutions for all kinds of problems in all times, but the Qur'anic solutions for these problems are also characterised by being just and right, whereas, all other solutions contrary to it are short and defective as they are based on human feebleness, ignorance and injustice. The Qur'an is a comprehensive Divine Book which contains the basis of knowledge, faith, politics, system of governing, justice, psychology, sociology, economics, penal law and all sciences that mankind may need. Basics of these fields of knowledge are explained clearly in the Qur'an and prophetic traditions.
The True Religion
http://www.islamworld.net/true.html
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Obviously the difference between the false religions and the true religion is that the true religion has no problems whatsoever proving that it is the true religion while the false religions quickly fail the test.
Sothis Muslimwill have no problem whatsoever proving to us all that Allah actually said all the sayings attributed to Him in the Koran. Be ready to be put to shame, all you who are believing in false religions!
Okay, prove to us all that Allah actually said everything attributed to Him in the Koran!
Watch out all you false religious believers for this guy is about to put you to shame!
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17-04-05, 11:44 PM
Whatever the world doesnt need to be brutally forced into your religion why cant people make up their own minds what they want to believe in, islam was a religion created to cater all the pagans living within the middle east in the 7th century in order to bring civilization because all the christian states such as Rome, Axum and Greece where so powerful due to their religion, if islam is so great why are somalis dying everyday in the name of allah and killing their own, islam is just as corupt as any religion riduled with racism and anti- woman! its not no saviour of black people!! its more autoratic and brutal!
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17-04-05, 11:55 PM
JoshuaStone...
Yes, you are correct. Islam - The True Religion - has no problems, and the Qur'an has no errors.
Yes, Allah did reveal everything attributed to him in the Qur'an. This includes many things that were not known to mankind before the revelation of the Qur'an.
I need offer you nothing in terms of proof, as the Qur’an itself offers its readers several falsification tests. Some of these were only meant for the past, yet others for all times. The Qur’an says that if it is not what it claims then all you have to do is this or that, to prove that it is false. The Qur’an therefore offers you several such opportunities to prove it wrong, and im suprised that you have not already taken up this challenge since you claim to be so sure that you can "put muslims to shame".
Oh you, JoshuaStone - who claims to "take the best bits of religions" and be able to "put muslims to shame", cannot meet this challenge and cannot prove to us all that Allah did not say everything attributed to Him in the Qur'an.
THE AMAZING QUR'AN
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/GM_aq/
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18-04-05, 12:04 AM
Emporer 1..
You are gravely mistaken.
Islam is a religion for all mankind, for all time.
Islam is not a "brutal" or "forced" religion, and to this day, millions worldwide endlessly convert or are born into Islam.
Where corruptions exist, it is not the fault of Islam, but those that seek to corrupt its delivery. The religion based on the Qur'an ans Sunnah in itself are protected and pure as they were meant to be.
People may be killed and killing with the name of Allah on their lips, but the fact remains that it is not Islam that does murder people, it is man that is murdering people.
It is as if you are subliminated by the media propaganda. If i murder in your name, it does not mean that you support, assist, enable or condone it.
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18-04-05, 12:09 AM
What a cop-out. I am not telling everyone that they must believe as I do or be cast out of God's love forever. It is YOU and your kind that do such things with no proof whatsoever that the God of creation actually said all the things attributed to Him in your supposedly infallible and inerrant "holy" book. Your religion gives birth to suicide bombers and murderers. There is noextremely popular religion as dangerously insane as Islam. I have all the proof I need that this is indeed the truth.
You peoplewho are dead certain God actually said something just because it says so in your book are Bozo nuts!
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18-04-05, 12:20 AM
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Hey untleast u know the truth
the only thing u should do is provide info about Islam and let ppl decide for themself if they don't agree one day they really will know
if any false info. comes up by all means set the truth straight
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18-04-05, 12:21 AM
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I was just wondering what do u believe in
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18-04-05, 12:54 AM
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I am truly astonished that you are asking this question. All the best posts I create in this forum are added to the thread I created which is the original THE ULTIMATE BELIEF SYSTEM. The only way you could have missed that thread is if you are posting blind in this forum. Either that or you are too dumb for words to properly express. What a ridiculous question!
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18-04-05, 12:57 AM
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Yes, you are correct. Islam - The True Religion - has no problems, and the Qur'an has no errors.
Yes, Allah did reveal everything attributed to him in the Qur'an. This includes many things that were not known to mankind before the revelation of the Qur'an.
I need offer you nothing in terms of proof, as the Qur’an itself offers its readers several falsification tests. Some of these were only meant for the past, yet others for all times. The Qur’an says that if it is not what it claims then all you have to do is this or that, to prove that it is false. The Qur’an therefore offers you several such opportunities to prove it wrong, and im suprised that you have not already taken up this challenge since you claim to be so sure that you can "put muslims to shame".
Oh you, JoshuaStone - who claims to "take the best bits of religions" and be able to "put muslims to shame", cannot meet this challenge and cannot prove to us all that Allah did not say everything attributed to Him in the Qur'an.
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I could use your same strategy and state that since you cannot prove that God did not actually speak through Jesus Christ then you are blaspheming against God by believing in a religion that declares that Jesus Christ is not the Only Begotten Son of God!
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Fact of the matter is you have no more proof God spoke through your prophet than any other person throughout recorded history in which God supposedly spoke through certain "chosen" people.
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18-04-05, 01:13 AM
JoshuaStone..
It is you that is the "cop out".
If you can make the claim that the Qur'an is not the word of god and request others to prove otherwise then it is up to you to first prove your claim.
As i have said, the Qur'an includes its own falsifications test which have not been met in 1400 years, yet you claim that you can do this... so where is your evidence and where is your proof. We both know why you have not met this challenge.
Remember it is you that claims to follow their own religion made up of the best bits of other religions. Though you have given no evidence and proof of any divine or intelligent reasoning that you have so that you can make these choices of what is included and what is not included.
What you instead have is YOUR proof and YOUR reasoning, based on excerpts and edits you have rationalised in your OWN mind based on what..... the books, teachings and traditions of other religions!, ...but still you have the cheek to call this an "Ultimate Belief",.. for you maybe!.... tell me... who else do you have on your side?.. sharing your rationale?...
When all is done and dusted.. what do you have... a belief based on a way of thinking that causes you to believe that Islam is "insane" and "gives birth to suicide bombers and murderers"....
Very intelligent, rational and articulate of you!...
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18-04-05, 01:34 AM
JoshuaStone...
Furthermore...
Firstly,... it is you that claims they will "put muslims to shame".
Secondly,... I make NO claim that god DID NOT send jesus with a revelation, and NOWHERE is it stated that Jesus himself "declares he is the Only Begotten Son of God", in the context of being god, or more divine that any others called "gods son".
Thirdly,.. YES, i state that god revealed through the prophet to ALL mankind, many things including those that man previously DID NOT KNOW. As i have said, the Qur'an has its own falsification test which you may challenge, and this was set out in the Qur'an 1400 years ago, so you DID NOT have to wait for me to make this claim before attempting to meet the challenge.... ..But alas, coincidentaly you have ignored it!
Therefore, before you can make ANY counter arguement whatsoever, there is one simple thing that you can do first. Meet the Qur'anic challenge which precedes ANY claim/arguement/proposal you can make here or at any point in your life.
Due to the claims you have made, any failing of this test by yourself would effectively mean that the only person you have "put to shame" is YOURSELF.
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