where did the father of the faith Abraham record these things?

where in the torah are they written? where is the black stone metionred?

ok so in washing you clean your nostils cool thats cool, and you throw

stones at the pillars i guess that would be like rebuking the devil, but the

the black stone idea to me its like the roman cath church telling

people to pray to a cross or to the statues of mary, im just trying to get an understanding of islam that all

Well you can all say what you want, i aint forcing you to believe me. However when it fully comes to pass. Wow!! will you not all be surprised??



What wil you say then? Fiction still or fact?



Born_Again04

yo its strange to see people from the noi tryin to defend islam against a born again christian. thats like a mormon trying to defend judaism or something. to born again, the islamic position is that allah (swt)revealed the tawrat (torah) and injeel (gospel) and some of these revelations are present in the bible but many additions and corruptions are there as well. you asked when according to muslims was the bible corrupted. many muslims dont think too much about that but their interpretation of the quran referring to people changing the text with their hands and pens implies it happened before the revelation of the quran to muhammad (saaws). the historical evidence also points to changes to the bible being well before the advent of islam. the bible was still undegoing redactions in the 3rd century.

sleep no more,
you may have not read this so i'll repost it just for you.

The Black Stone of the Kabaa was sent to earth from Angel Gabriel to Prophet Adam. It was Adam who first buillt the first House Of God on Earth, The Kabaa. It is only used as a starting point when walking around the Kabaa. It is in no way worshipped or seen as a 'holy stone'

ADM was still in the dispensation of innocence, there was not an alter to GOD

that was made manifest of a black stone or house of Allah in genesis, where is this

found student i would like reference on this matter, is this in the koran? whatchpt or sura?

and adams definate revelation of GOD Differred from Abraham, they where in 2 diff dispensations of time and each had a different revelation of GODs will for the

hour in which they lived, andabraham sure enoughdint build the house ofAllah or the Kabba, maybe his pagan relatives in UR did, but hewas removed from IDOLS,

When Godsent him to seek for a city with foundations whose maker and builder was the real true and living GOD