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THE MYSTERY OF HOW THE MESSIAHS NAME
YESHUA BECAME JESUS BEING TRANSLATED
IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
[align=justify]Beloved, let us focus on this divine subject with an open mind, of[/align]
[align=justify]sanctification in the study of salvation to the edificationof the [/align]
[align=justify]church. This study has been designed through research of Biblical [/align]
[align=justify]history to make known to our reading audience the origin and power [/align]
[align=justify]of translation of languages; spiritually as well as natural, in honor of [/align]
[align=justify]the sacred Name. 1 John 5:13, These things have I written unto you [/align]
[align=justify]that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye [/align]
[align=justify]have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of [/align]
[align=justify]God. {We must remember that God is omnipotent; which means all, [/align]
[align=justify]God does not accept His name in one language and reject it in another, [/align]
[align=justify]it was the Lord’s decision to bring about many languages; Genesis 11:[/align]
[align=justify]6-9} 1 Peter 3:15 says, But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and[/align]
[align=justify]be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a re-[/align]
[align=justify]ason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: How the name [/align]
[align=justify]Yeshua became Jesus is understood through transition: the prophetic [/align]
[align=justify]voice of God’s Spirit said unto me, “ It has to do with language ba-[/align]
[align=justify]rrier in translation�. By the will of God to every nation, kindred, [/align]
[align=justify]tongue and people, for an example; the Spanish name Reyes trans[/align]
[align=justify]lated in English is “King’s�, the English name Bobby translated to [/align]
[align=justify]French is “Policier�, the English name June translated to Italian is [/align]
[align=justify]“Giugno� Psalm 19:1-3 says, “ The heavens declare the glory of [/align]
[align=justify]God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. 2) Day unto day[/align]
[align=justify]uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. 3) There is [/align]
[align=justify]no speech nor language, where their voiceis not heard. This [/align]
[align=justify]means that God has translated His name to every dialect of tongue,[/align]
[align=justify]and culture of that language. Let us comprehend spiritual things and [/align]
[align=justify]compare them with the things of the natural; every fruit and vegetable [/align]
[align=justify]has its own taste, and every language has its own accent and manner [/align]
[align=justify]in which it is initiated. The name Jesus fits the culture of the English [/align]
[align=justify]language; and purify it, in the words we speak, the songs we sing, [/align]
[align=justify]in poetry and literature, etc. Zephaniah 3:9 says, For then will I [/align]
[align=justify]turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the [/align]
[align=justify]name of the Lord, to serve him with one consent. (In English we say [/align]
[align=justify]God, French=Dieu, German=Gott, Polish = B’og, Russian = Bokh, [/align]
[align=justify]Greek = Theos, Arabic = Ilah, Japanese = Kami, Swahili = Mungu, [/align]
[align=justify]Turkish = Allah.)[/align]
When the angel Gabriel came to Mary and told her that she was
going to have a son, and what the childs name was to be, (Luke
1:31) the sound of the name that Mary heard came from Gabriel’s
lips were very close to, if not exactly.. “ Yahushua� pronounced
{Yah-hoo-shoo’-ah.} the name is the blending of two Hebrew
words. The first part, “Yahu� is part of God’s Hebrew name that is
sometimes used at the beginning or end of a Hebrew name; and
shua is a Hebrew word for deliverance meaning “saves". Though
many believe the pronunciation of the name was lost, part of it
has been preserved through the generation in some modern Heb-
rew names. The name of former Israeli prime minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is one example. God’s full name is likely pronounced
“Ya-hu-eh� which is the Hebrew word for deliverance meaning
“saved�. The name Yahushua was then shortened for everyday use
the way many Hebrew names typically are, to Y’shua (emphasis
on the second syllable) Recently, there was brought to the light an
ossuary (bone box) dated to around 63 A.D. On it was an inscript-
ion that read; “ Ya’akov, bar yosf, akhui diY’shua�. It has been
translated to English as; James the son of Joseph, brother of Jesus.
The written inscription is the only reference to Yeshua outside of
the Hebrew Bible from that time period. Until this discovery, the
oldest reference to Yeshua are found in the ancient Greek texts.
The interesting thing is that the last four letters of the inscription
which have been rendered “ Jesus� by translators, are easily ident-
ifiable to even a novice. The name Jesus was transcribed in pronun-
citation and called “Jay-soos� the Spanish speaking people took
the same English spelling and pronounced it “Hay-soos�. But this
new spelling in the hands of many marginally-literate English
commoners soon became pronounced by the general public as
“Jee-zuz�. By the 17th Century, the letter (J) was officially part of
the King’s English and in 1611 the most renown English translat-
ion of all, the King James Bible, was put into massive print, com-
plete with pronunciation helps for all proper names including the
name of Jesus as we pronounce it today. The name “James� for ex-
ample started out as “Ya’acov� in Hebrew, came out “Jacques� in
French, “James� in English and “Diego� in Spanish!
name that begins with the letter (J) has become to us this same way.
Names like “Jeremiah�, “Jerusalem�, “Judah�, “John�, and “Jew�
are only a few examples. At no time in history when these people and
places were being written about did there exist in their language
the sound of the letter (J). This letter (J) must to have had a
great significance to God, because the Bible was not translated to
the English language until it came about. Jesus is the Messiah;
which means “Anointed One�. We must give thanks to God for
the English translation of that great Name. “Which was a mystery
even at that time; (Colossians 2:26) “hid from ages and generations
but now is made manifest to his saints�{that great name making
known Christ in you, the hope of glory} Ecclesiastes 3:1 says,
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under
the heaven: Colossians 1:17 &18 says, And he is before all things,
and by him all things consist. 18) And he is the head of the body,
the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that
in all things he might have the preeminence. (which means hav-
ing a high rank, and of dignity, importance, or outstanding) It is
very important for us to know the mystery in history of the Great
Name Jesus, which by translation through revelation was made
known in the English language and have been standing through-
out the ages. The power of this Great Name give deliverance even
to many other counties, nations and languages. The preaching and
the teaching of this Great Name, saves, heals, delivers and sets free.
Colossians 3:17 says, And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do
all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the
Father by him. Acts 4:12 says, Neither is there salvation in any
other: for there is none other name under heaven given am-
ong men, whereby we must be saved. This subject is designed to
enlighten, inspire, and to educate our reading audience, of what
great manifestation, throughout the ages, God have wrought to
bring to us His very best; which is the Great Name JESUS,
whom we praise, give honor and glory for it saves, heals, work
miracles and bring true deliverance to them that believe it.
Philippians 4:8 says, Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are
true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just,
whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, what-
soever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there
be any praise, think on these things.
Unbelief is Deceit,
THE SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD
THE GREAT SHIELD FROM THE MOST HIGH TO KEEP US IN
THE END TIMES
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18-05-05, 03:37 PM
I have said this and I will say it again, do you know the difference between translating and transliterating? You do not translate names because they lose meaning.
Example, have you ever heard a person speaking in another language and when they get to a name they say that persons name and not a "translated" version? My name it Timothy and it is the same in every language.
If we know his name why don't we use it? We used the name jesus because it is what was given to us and now that we know better we stillwon't stop using it.
Common sense. If you thought my name was Mike and found out that my name was Tim would you still call me Mike? Lets use our heads here.
When I hear people say jesus all I see is a blond hair blue eyed white man that shows no masculinity. But when I say Yahshua I see the man that was a true example of the law and the word of Yahweh.
Forget what you were taught and realize the Truth.
And by the way this article is written on opinion and not facts. And the author of this nonsense wrote it to deceive peopleinto believing thatjesus was a namegiven by Yahweh whenit wasn't.
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18-05-05, 04:41 PM
My name is Michael when i spoke to a french person he called me Michelle (maybe spelled differently).
I'll say it again. Jesus has many name like in the Bible it says in the begining was The Word and The Word was With God. Does that mean that Jesus original name is The Word because his namewasTheWord in the begining.
It's the power or the meaningbehind the name that matters. I could understand if the name Jesus had some hidden meaning thatprofanedhim but it doesn't. Or if it was going against Gods law.
I don't think God is going to condemn anyone about this.
As their has been demons cast out bythe name of Jesus. The devil trembles and demons runat his name.
But i would like to find out more details about it.
Love one another how God has loved you.
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My name is Michael when i spoke to a french person he called me Michelle (maybe spelled differently).
I'll say it again. Jesus has many name like in the Bible it says in the begining was The Word and The Word was With God. Does that mean that Jesus original name is The Word because his namewasTheWord in the begining.
It's the power or the meaningbehind the name that matters. I could understand if the name Jesus had some hidden meaning thatprofanedhim but it doesn't. Or if it was going against Gods law.
I don't think God is going to condemn anyone about this.
As their has been demons cast out bythe name of Jesus. The devil trembles and demons runat his name.
But i would like to find out more details about it.
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jesus does have many names and with them comes many different meanings. You can't say that all of these name mean the same thing or are you? Yahshua is his name, one name with one meaning.
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So did the father say to name him Yahshua and then years later change his name? That would be like changing the word which we know he never did. You said that he was the word so did it change. Your religion won't allow you to not call him jesus because that name is the foundation of your religion when the truth should be.I guess in a few years when they decided to call him something else you will do that too.
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Why don't you just say I don't care about the truth and I want to call him jesus even whenI know it is wrong.
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Love one another how God has loved you.
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jesus does have many names and with them comes many different meanings. You can't say that all of these name mean the same thing or are you? Yahshua is his name, one name with one meaning.
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So did the father say to name him Yahshua and then years later change his name? That would be like changing the word which we know he never did. You said that he was the word so did it change. Your religion won't allow you to not call him jesus because that name is the foundation of your religion when the truth should be.I guess in a few years when they decided to call him something else you will do that too.
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Why don't you just say I don't care about the truth and I want to call him jesus even whenI know it is wrong.
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Jesus = Massiah, The Word, Emmanuel (God with us), Prince of Peace, King of Kings, Lords of Lords, Son of Man, Son of God, Rose of Sharon, Lilly of The Vally, The Bright and Morning Star, Michael........
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The list goes on and on all of these are the name and meaning ofJesus their are more ive just opened myBible at a fewrandom pages and found differentnames not the ones above but they are their.
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I care about the truth do you.I acceptthat you mayberight that Jesus wasn't his namethat the language was different. Do you accept thatYahshuaor Jesus is more than a name?
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Iwant to know more about this so i can relate to what you are saying. Where can ifind out more about this.
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jesus does have many names and with them comes many different meanings. You can't say that all of these name mean the same thing or are you? Yahshua is his name, one name with one meaning.
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So did the father say to name him Yahshua and then years later change his name? That would be like changing the word which we know he never did. You said that he was the word so did it change. Your religion won't allow you to not call him jesus because that name is the foundation of your religion when the truth should be.I guess in a few years when they decided to call him something else you will do that too.
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Jesus = Massiah, The Word, Emmanuel (God with us), Prince of Peace, King of Kings, Lords of Lords, Son of Man, Son of God, Rose of Sharon, Lilly of The Vally, The Bright and Morning Star, Michael........
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The list goes on and on all of these are the name and meaning ofJesus their are more ive just opened myBible at a fewrandom pages and found differentnames not the ones above but they are their.
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I care about the truth do you.I acceptthat you mayberight that Jesus wasn't his namethat the language was different. Do you accept thatYahshuaor Jesus is more than a name?
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Iwant to know more about this so i can relate to what you are saying. Where can ifind out more about this.
It is not hard to find, your just not looking. And whatch what name you give to jesus.
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For one jesus does not mean Massiah, and those names can be given to many people, and this one "the bright and morning star" is actuallt Lucifer, the devil, Helil.
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Revelation 22:16(King James Version)
16[/suP]I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
I think this says it all.
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16[/suP]I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
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Says it all about what? Doesn't take away from the definition for Lucifer. I have read this scripture before, tell me something that I don't know. Make me understand why you still won't acknowledge the truth? Is it that hard? Does it damage your ego that much? Are you faithful to your religion or to the Father? Come on Mike your a smart guy act like it.
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