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St. Augustine stated about the conference of Nicea in 325 AD
that, "When I read the proceedings, it makes me laugh. These people
are trying to give us a religion we had >>>three thousand years
ago<<<." St. Augustine WAS/IS the most influential Saint in
Catholocism's history. He was an African and he is the reason for the
adoption of certain beliefs and structures in Christianity (Along
side Tertillun and Cyperian).
>
Mr. "imhotep"
>
>
> "...the thing in itself of which it is the name, for the thing
> itself, which
> is now called the Christian religion, >>>really was known to the
ancients" <<<
> Writings of St. Augustine, Volume 2, page 12
>
> I opened or began this essay with a quote from St.
> Augustine, a person that many "Christians" know nothing about. They
> would be surprised to know that St. Augustine was African (Black)
and
> that most of the early "Fathers" of Christianity were Black.
Today's
> Christians would be perplexed by St. Augustine's statement,
> that "which is now called the Christian religion, really was known
to
> the ancients..." St. Augustine was born in North Africa (today's
> Algeria). He lived between 354-430 A.D. If St. Augustine is right,
> that a religion was known to ancient people similar
> to "Christianity," then what was the name of that religion?
> Mr. Ahmed K. El-Shabazz
> Nation of Islam
>
> "...Throughout Europe there remain a number of places of worship
which
> feature paintings, statues and frescoes of a dark-skinned Jesus and
His
> mother Mary such as the cathedral of Moulins in France, the Church
of
> Annunciata, the Church of St. Stephen at Genoa, the St. Francisco at
> Pisa, the Church of St. Theodore at Munich, etc. ORIGNALLY POSTED
BT BROTHER ISHAQ
> WHY IS THIS?
>
> * The Christian Madonna is copied from the Egyptian Madonna.
> Worshiped
> in Egypt & Rome, Black Isis & Horus her son was the model for the
> worship
> of the Madonna & Christ. Millions of whites worship the Black
> Madonna &
> Christ, found in Europe's most venerated shrines (formerly the sites
> of
> temples of Isis). Titles such as Our Lady, The Great Mother, are the
> same titles attributed to Isis. The word "Madonna" itself is from
> the
> mater domina, a title used for Isis!
>
>
> ...that in all the Romish countries of Europe, in
> France, Italy, Germany, &c., the God Christ, as well as his mother,
> are described in their old pictures and statues to be black. The
> infant God in the arms of his black mother, his eyes and drapery
> white, is himself perfectly black. ..There is scarcely an old
church in Italy were some remains of the
> worship of the BLACK VIRGIN and BLACK CHILD are not to be met with.
> Very often the black figures have given way to white ones, and in
> these cases the black ones, as being held sacred, were put into
> retired places in the churches, but were not destroyed, but are yet
> to be found there. ... They are generally esteemed .
> by the rabble with
> the most profound veneration
> If the author had wished to invent a circumstance to corroborate the
> assertion, that the Romish Christ of Europe is the Cristna of India,
> how could he have desired anything more striking than the fact of
the
> black Virgin and Child being so common in the Romish countries of
> Europe ? A black virgin and child among the white Germans, Swiss,
> French, and Italians ! ! !
>
> The Romish Cristna is black in India, black in Europe, and black he
> must remain?like the ancient gods of Greece, as we have just seen.
> But, after all, what was he but the Jupiter, the second person of
> their Trimurti or Trinity, the Logos of Parmenides and Plato, an
> incarnation or emanation of the solar power ?
> Excert from Anacalypsis by Mr. Godrey Higgins
Anacalypsis: An Attempt To Draw Aside The Veil Of The Saitic Isis; Or An Inquiry
Into The Origin Of Languages, Nations And Religion
Author: Higgins, Godfrey
1836
Volume one of a two volume set. (This description is for all volumes.) Godfrey
Higgins was convinced that a high civilization had flourished prior to all
historical records. He believed that there had existed then a most ancient and
universal religion from which all later creeds and doctrines sprang. His
research lasted over 20 years. He attempted to establish the existence of a
prehistoric universal religion and to trace its development into contemporary
times. He believed this religion possessed accurate knowledge of universal and
cosmic phenomena and held neither priesthood nor institution as intermediary in
man's communion with the Divine. This highly sought after book is extremely
rare. Two volumes.
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African-centered
Christianity divorced Eurocentric Christianity over the
interpretation of the Monophysite
Doctrine (God-In-Flesh): Ethiopian-Egyptians believed that when God
manifested, in flesh,
that man becomes a Living Mortal God... while Euro-centric
Christianity believed that when
God manifests in flesh, two separate beings exist side-by-side,
inside man...Divine and
human.
http://www.rootsinternational.net/blackmadonna.html
THE MADONA AND CHILD ARE BLACK BECAUSE, THEY ARE A REMNANT OF THE WORSHIP OF HORUS AND HIS "VIRGIN" MOTHER ISIS.
THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS WERE BLACK SO, NATURALLY THEIR GODS WERE.
IN MY OPINION, THE CHRISTIANITY THAT IS PRATISED IN AMERICA, IS BASED ON THE WORSHIP OF HORUS. THIS IS WHERE THE "STORY" OF JESUS(PBUH) COMES FROM.
REMEMBER, IT IS VERY EASY TO TRACE THE CHRISTIANITY OF AMERICA BACK TO ROME VIA ENGLAND.
R E T U R N T O G L O R Y by Joel A. Freeman, Ph.D.
photos that prove, the ancient Egytians were Black.
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGhistory.htm
http://www.theworkofgod.org/Aparitns/Others2.htm
http://www.angelastrology.com/madonnas2.htm
http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/andre/trinity.html
http://www.thule-italia.com/madonnanera.htm
The Original
Black Madonna
Saxakali.com
Blacked Out Through Whitewash
is a
great book
for all peoples
of color
Christ's Mother, "The Black Madonna"
is worshiped throughout Europe of all places
The most sacred icons of the Catholic Church are the Black Madonna and Christ child, which are found in Europe's most venerated shrines and cathedrals. Each year, hundreds of thousands of European pilgrims ritually humble themselves before the image of Black Mary and her child Jesus at Black Madonna sites throughout France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Portugal and other Catholic countries. Many Black Madonna statues have the black paint literally kissed off of their hands and feet. In Poland, the Church encourages believers to pray to the Black Madonna of Czestochowka every morning before rising. It is reported that Pope John Paul follows this ritual. Time Magazine (June 11, 1979) reported on Popelaul II's visit to Czestochowka's holiest shrine, which prominently displays "The Lady" known for centuries as the Black Madonna. At Our Lady of Koden (Poland), there are statues of white saints carrying pictures of Black Madonnas. Pilgrims throughout the ages have visited Black Madonna sites and left inspired, confident, relieved, or healed of their afflictions. Today, there are over 300 documented Black Madonna sites in France alone! 1 Sometimes they are hidden awaken vaults, while the public is shown Madonnas with European features.
The Oueen of the Pyrenees
In the hard-to-find classic, Anacalypsis, historian Godfrey Higgens writes, "...in all the Romish countries of Europe, in France, Italy, Germany, etc., the God Christ, as well as his mother, are described in their old pictures and statues to be black. The infant God in the arms of his black mother, his eyes and drapery white, is himself perfectly black. If the reader doubt my word, he may go to the cathedral at Moulins -to the famous chapel of the Virgin at Loretto ...the whiteness of the eyes and teeth, and the studied redness of the lips, are very observable... There is scarcely an old church in Italy where some remains of the worship of the BLACK VIRGIN and BLACK CHID are not to be met with. Very often the black figures have given way to white ones, and in these cases the black ones, as being held sacred, were put into retired places in the churches, but were not destroyed... 2
The Black Madonnas originally all had Africoid features before most of them were destroyed by iconoclasts. When they were replaced, the artists retained the dark skin color but, not being familiar with real Afrikans, gave European features to the paintings. In cases where originals have survived, you may witness Africoid features on Mary and her child Jesus, such as the Black Madonna of Nuria, Spain - called "the Queen of the Pyrenees." Russia's remarkable legacy of Black Madonnas and other Christian icons of dark skin is evidenced in the book, Russian Icons by Vladimir Ivanov, including the feature story of the Spring 1994 issue of Russian Life magazine, graced with a Black Madonna on its cover.
1) Watts, 22.
2) Higgens, v! 138
Actually the worship of the virgin, Black "Mother of God" with her God-begotten child, far predates Christianity and prevailed throughout the ancient world.
Goddess Ad (Isis) suckling
Her Holy Child Heru (Horus).
Historians recognize that the statue of the Egyptian Goddess Isis with her child Horus in her arms was the first Madonna and Child. They were renamed Mary and Jesus when Europe was forcibly Christianized. The worship of Isis and Horus was especially popular in ancient Rome. "Roman legions carried this figure of Black Isis holding the Black infant Horus all over Europe where shrines were established to her. So holy and venerate were these shrines that when Christianity invaded Europe, these figures of the Black Isis holding the Black Horus were not destroyed but turned into figures of the Black Madonna and Child. Today these are still the holiest shrines in Catholic Europe." 1 Titles such as Our Lady, The Great Mother, are the same titles attributed to Isis! The word "Madonna" itself is from mater domina, a title used for Isis! The month of May, which was dedicated to the heathen Virgin Mothers, is also the month Mary, the Christian Virgin. 2
The Fedorovo Virgin, a Black Madonna
icon of 18th century Russia
Incredulously, many contemporary white authors seem not to link or acknowledge the Black Madonna's color with her Afrikan origin,
although their ancestors did without hesitation. Some flatly deny any
racial connection. Instead, they come up with various reasons and sophisticated explanations (the "dark" phase of the moon, fertility of the earth, etc.) -any excuse except Melanin - to explain why the Lady is portrayed black.
This is evident in a number of books by white authors discussing Black Madonnas. Perhaps whites have become so enmeshed in the webs of false history woven by their predecessors that many are blind to the truth, unable to see or discern even glaring evidence of Afrikan historical presence. If white writers of today are indeed this ignorant - or pretending ignorance - of the Black Madonna's Afrikan origin, let them read the works of a few rare honest white scholars which preceded them, such as Gerald Massey, T.W. Doane, Godfrey Higgins and Kersey Graves. These writers knew and wrote the truth. This is amazing given the exceedingly overtly racist times in which they lived. Yet today, official white establishment does not and will not acknowledge the Afrikan genesis of their whitewashed religions.
In Bible Myths, T.W. Doane devotes a chapter to The Worship of the Virgin Mother, where he candidly states, "The whole secret of the fact of these early representations of the Virgin Mary and Jesus - so called-being black, crowned, and covered with jewels, is that they are of pre-Christian origin; they are Isis and Horus... baptized anew." 3
1) Saskana, 53-54.
2) Doane, 335.
3) Ibid., 337.
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Last modified:February 19, 1999
The reason THE MADONNA AND CHILD OF EUROPE ARE BLACK...
Horus and Isis, Ancient Egyptin gods are protrayed Black, just as the Ancient Egyptians were!...
KING TUT
RAMESES II
ONE OF NEFERTITI'S DAUGHTERS
R E T U R N T O G L O R Y by Joel A. Freeman, Ph.D.
photos that prove, the ancient Egytians were Black.
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGhistory.htm
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clp)blkscholarthat's excellent scholarly work. niceone.gif
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The catholic church don't follow the Bible fully they are pagans.
You probably have found some things from ancient religions introduced by the catholic church. there are a lot of things catholics have introduced into the church which the Bible forbids.
i'll be back with more details.
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the "church" was actually started by the Roman Catholic Church!
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This wasalmost too easy!
Are Christians admitting the origin of their religionis based on pre-extant Egyptian religion?
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So are you saying that the apostles in the Bible wereCatholics? I don't think so.
It seems to me that you will try anything to break the faith of christians on this site. First you start by saying pre-extent egyptian religion and then you start by sayingthat the Bible was written by the freemasons.
The way i see it is that you listen to the words of man beforestudyingthe Bible for yourselfand doing your research through the Bible and then you will understand. Instead of looking from the viewfrom your religion or the world , it is obvious to me that you don't know or understand what is in the Bible and you are going by thing's that you have heard.
There are many sites and 100's of books like this from muslims, other religions, some chraistiansand satanist to cast doubt in peoples minds and turn people away from the Bible before they've even studied it.
I SUGGEST YOU READ AND STUDY YOUR BIBLE
Christianity comes from Judaism by the way.
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So are you saying that the apostles in the Bible wereCatholics? I don't think so.
It seems to me that you will try anything to break the faith of christians on this site. First you start by saying pre-extent egyptian religion and then you start by sayingthat the Bible was written by the freemasons.
The way i see it is that you listen to the words of man beforestudyingthe Bible for yourselfand doing your research through the Bible and then you will understand. Instead of looking from the viewfrom your religion or the world , it is obvious to me that you don't know or understand what is in the Bible and you are going by thing's that you have heard.
There are many sites and 100's of books like this from muslims, other religions, some chraistiansand satanist to cast doubt in peoples minds and turn people away from the Bible before they've even studied it.
I SUGGEST YOU READ AND STUDY YOUR BIBLE
The Immaculate conception story existed for thousands of years in Egypt but the Roman Empire took the old beliefs and mixed it with their ancient paegen beliefs and established Chritianity. The Roman Catholic church was the Head of the revised religion and doctrines, later it split up into smaller sects like protestant, lutheran, penticostal, baptist but it was originally part of the roman catholic church. Reading the bible is not going to help you because off top your reading a revised King James bible or some off shoot of it, do you know who king james was? How can you say christianity doesn't come from the Roman's when the connection lies right with people like King James?
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Funnyyou bring up Judaism because that religion itself comes from Egypt and so does the Torah. All of the ancient people like Abraham, Joseph, moses, solomon and jesus were people in constant contact with Egyptians and studied their way of life. Look at Moses the author of the ten commandments grew up in egypt and was a egyptian priest. The egyptians also have doctrines almost identical to moses's version but much older. This is because Moses got it from egypt and the laws were already in effect there but moses and the other people of the bible got created for their creation (or people that translated it made it look that way). Even the belief in one God was not first established by Abraham but by the egyptians. Traditions and ritualslike baptism, easter and christmas are from the same people most jews and christians would call paegen.
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"How can you say christianity doesn't come from the Roman's when the connection lies right with people like King James? "
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If you study the Bible you would understand what i am trying to get at. If Roman Catholics started christianity and changed the Bible why am i telling you that they have the same description as the antichrist which is written in the Bible. It wouldn't make sence for the catholics to change the Bible and say we are the antichrist.THEIR ARE ONLY A FEW CATHOLICS THAT KNOW THIS.It woud'nt make sense if it was written by the freemasons why would it go against what the freemasons believe in and warns us about this person who the freemason believe is coming back claiming to be Jesus.
I suggest you find out what the freemasons believe them then read and study the Bible. Don't believe what others tell you find out for yourself.
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> The Jews Alter the Bible
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> "Do you then hope that they would believe in you, and a party from
> among them (Jews) indeed used to hear the world of Allah, then
> altered it after they had understood it, and they know this. "Holy
> Qur'an 2:75.
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> The Holy Qur'an accuses the Jews of altering the scriptures of
God.
> Far from being Islamic "anti-Semitism," this fact is a matter of
> recorded history. John N. Hayes, professor of Old Testament at
> Candler School of Theology, Emory University, in this book "An
> Introduction to Old Testament Study", observes,
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> "Rabbinical references provide evidence that the pre-Masoretic
> scribes not only guarded and preserved the text but at time WENT
SO
> FAR AS TO ALTER THE TEXT ITSELF." (33)
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> Toy, in Judaism and Christianity, says also,
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> Transcripts were copied and recopied by scribes who not only
> sometimes made errors in the letters of the words, but permitted
> themselves to introduce new material into the text."
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> The alterations made by the Jewish scribes, called tiqqune
sopherim
> or "emendations of the scribes," were not random or casual but
were
> calculated with a specific goal. Hayes observes:
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> "Manyof the changes assumed seem to have the purpose of making the
> text more theologically acceptable by changing expressions which
seem
> to lack proper reverence. Some examples." Gen 18:22 originally
read'
> YHWH still stood before Abraham rather than `Abraham still stood
> before YHWH', II Sam 20:1 read `to his gods' rather than `to his
> tents'; Ez 18: 17 read `my God's nose' rather than `their nose';
and
> Job 32:3
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