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Why do you want to know what other people know about the freemasons? Try asking one, since that seems to be the last choice of avenue for most people.

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ALLAH'S STATEMENT CONCERNING MASONS

"AND WHEN THERE CAME TO THEM A MESSENGER FROM ALLAH VERIFYING THAT WHICH THEY HAVE, A PARTY OF THOSE WHO WERE GIVEN THE BOOK THREW THE BOOK OF ALLAH BEHIND THEIR BACKS AS IF THEY KNEW NOTHING-----AND THEY FOLLOW WHAT THE DEVILS FABRICATED AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF SOLOMON. AND SOLOMON DISBELIEVED NOT, BUT THE DEVILS DISBELIEVED, TEACHING MEN ENCHANTMENT......" (HOLY QUR'AN 2:101-102-------"SEEST THOU NOT THOSE WHO ARE FOBIDDEN SECRET COUNSELS, THEN THEY RETURN TO THAT WHICH THEY ARE FORBIDDEN, AND HOLD SECRET COUNSELS FOR SIN AND REVOLT AND DISOBEDIENCE TO THE MESSENGER.-----SECRET COUNSELS ARE ONLY OF THE DEVIL THE HE MAY CAUSE TO GRIEVE THOSE WHO BELIEVE...."(HOLY QUR'AN 58:8 AND 10) ---The Freemasons do indeed hold up Lucifer as their god!!!!!!!






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Bro. Min. Shabazz has shown us that Allah, Himself has spoken of the Masons.






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As the candidate "progresses through the ceremonies he learns that at the building of King Solomon's Templeat Jerusalem the skilled masons were divided into two classes, Apprentices and Fellows; that they were presided over by three Grand masters (King Solomon, Hiram King of Tyre, and Hiram Abiff) who shared certain secrets known only to them; that these secrets were lost by the murder of Hiram Abiff - a result of his refusal to divulge the secrets - and that certain substituted secrets were adopted 'until time or circumstance should restore the former'. The implication in the ritual is that Freemasonry was already established in Solomon's time and has continued as an unchanged system since them. The ritual, however, as the candidate quickly realizes, is not literal or historical truth but a dramatic allegory by means of which the principles and tenets of the Craft are handed down."
- John Hamill, The Craft, A History of English Freemasonry

http://www.peter-buswell.com/Masonic/mrituals.htm

[align=left]THE VAULT AND THE MYSTERIES
Biblical students and archaeologists know of the vaults or crypts beneath King Solomon's Temple. Masonic Degrees were probably not actually conferred in these vaults....[/align]
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Masonry ’n the KKK - coincedence?





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It(the KKK)was founded in Polaski, Tennessee, in 1866 by 6 Confederate officers. One of them, and the first Imperial Wizard of the KKK, was a former Confederate general and Freemason, Nathan Bedford Forrest.
http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Ku-Klux-Klan/kkk.htm

Must be just "coincedence"


Main Library of the Supreme Council 33° of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, S.J., U.S.A., the Mother Supreme Council of the World, Washington D.C., is dedicated to none other than Confederate General Albert Pike, the KKK's Chief of "Judiciary".
MUST BE COINCEDENCE



Pikes importance to Freemasonry from the Supreme Council 33° shows the claims by Masonic Apologists today that Pike is a "nobody" whose "importance is nothing to masonry", who "no one even knows who he is save for a few anti's" to be a real whopper. Albert Pike is to Freemasonry what Shakespeare is to Drama. One is inseparable from the other. Don't let practiced dissemblers tell you anything different.

MUST BE AN ERROR BYTHE AUTHOR. BESIDES, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO W/THEKKK.




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Ku Klux Klan: Its Origin, Growth, and Disbandment [/align]

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[align=left]It was in 1905 that the Neale Publishing Company, New York and Washington, published Ku Klux Klan: Its Origin, Growth and Disbandment, written and edited by Walter L. Fleming, incorporating earlier published material by J.C. Lester and D.L. Wilson. Historian Walter Fleming's introduction to this 1905 book explains that he has been given "information in regard to Ku Klux Klan, by many former members of the order, and by their friends and relatives." . Dr. Dr. Fleming states that "General Albert Pike, who stood high in the Masonic order, was the chief judicial officer of the Klan." On a page of illustrations of important founders of the KKK, Dr. Fleming places General Pike's portrait in the center, makes it larger than the six others on the page, and repeats this information as a caption: "General Albert Pike, chief judicial officer"Fleming attaches as an appendix to his book, a KKK "prescript" or secret constitution which had then recently been discovered. This document sets forth the regulations of the Klan's "judiciary"' department, over which Albert Pike ruled. This is the internal disciplinary or counterintelligence department. It also corresponds to Pike and the Klan's influence over the regular court system and the legal profession in the post-civil War southern states. [/align]

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[align=left]But it was as the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite, and the recognized boss of the southern white masonic order, that Pike exercised the great clandestine power that welded the KKK together. Dr. Walter Fleming designates Confederate Major James R. Crowe as the pre-eminent source for his 1905 KKK History, and describes Crowe as one of the original KKK founders in Pulaski. Fleming says thatMajor Crowe "held high rank in the Masonic order." In his honor roll of "well-known members of the Klan," Dr. Fleming places "General John C. Brown, of Pulaski, Tennessee" and "Colonel Joseph Fussell, of Columbia, Tennessee." [/align]

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[align=left]General Brown and Colonel Fussell, like Major Crowe, are identifiable as soldiers of Albert Pike's masonic order. General Brown had been a master mason in the Pulaski lodge for 15 years when the KKK was formed there, and became grand master of Tennessee Masons and governor of Tennessee during the Klan's era of power. Colonel Fussell was commandant of Tennessee's masonic Knights Templar during the Klan rule. The preceding masonic information is taken from Tennessee Templars: A Register of Names with Biographical Sketches of the Knights Templar of Tennessee by James D. Richardson. This James D. Richardson was himself the Commandant of Knights Templar and Grand Master of Masons in Tennessee, and was speaker of the Tennessee House of Representatives during the era of the Klan power. This same James D. Richardson was Albert Pike's successor as commander of the southern Scottish Rite masons. It was this same Richardson who ordered the Pike statue to be erected in Washington, D.C. It was Richardson who, as a U.S. congressman from Tennessee, introduced into the U.S. House of Representatives the infamous 1898 resolution: It called for the federal government to provide federal land to Richardson's masonic organization, on which to put up their statue honoring the master strategist of KKK terror. http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Ku-Klux-Klan/kkk.htm[/align]

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[align=left]1915 was the rebirth of the KKK, just after the film "The rebirth of a Nation" where Klansmen were romantically portrayed as heroes who had preserved the moral fiber and character of America... this time another Mason, W. J. Simmons, was the architect. By the mid-1920s they controlled some states such as Indiana from the courthouse to the statehouse. Almost all of the top officials of the revived Klan were also Masons, with a total of 5 million members, most of them Masons and white Protestants, with several Senators and Governors. http://religion-cults.com/Secret/Ku-Klux-Klan/kkk.htm[/align]

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MASONIC TURKEY AT THE CROSS ROADS
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SALAAM- "......the fall of America cannot be checked,for the foundation has been removed. The 1914 war, which involved all of the white race, crushed the power of Turkey in Europe and pushed that power back arcross the Bosporus (or pushed Islam out of Europe as nearly as possible). An old prophetic saying is that when Turkey has been pushed out of Europe(across the Bosporus), setting her capital away from the once Constantinople, this would mark the end of the white world." Hon. Elijah Muhammad-Message to the Blackman p.288 The Hon. Elajah Muhammad (pbuh) wrote these words 1964, and now we see Turkey in the News, as Turkey has been trying to enter the European Union. Catholic Europe will never allow Turkey to enter the EU, but will make an agreement with Turkey. Turkey will help the EU when it attacks Israel and the U.S. over Jerusalem. The Hon. Elijah Muhammad said that the white mans time was up in 1914. A book called THE WHITE MAN'S DILEMMA (1927) stated that the 1914 war (WWI) broke "white solidarity". The Freemasons of Great Britain,and the Jocobins(Jew Mason) took over Turkey when it was under the Islamic Sultan rule. Turkey's elite was brain-washed by western education. Once the Sultans became Masons themselves , such as Sultan Murad V who died in 1904, by the time Kemal Ataturk(who too was a mason) took over Turkey, Freemasony had been planted there for many years. Kemal Ataturk made war on Islam by out-lawing arabic writing, Qur'anic education, and the "Fez". The Fez was replaced by the hat. Note: the Fez goes back to the Egypt (Kemet), the King Khufu 2575 B.C.E. wore a Fez. The Fez is THE SUN and the black tassel on the muslim fez can move 360 degrees, the Shriner's fez(Mason) has a tassel that is fixed. The Fez of the muslim means the person's head is wrapped up in the knowledge of Allah, he is free(the sun means freedom). The Hon Elijah Muhammad in the 1930's wore the Fez with the National on it. In 2003 Muslims attacked the Masonic Lodge in Turkey. It is the Masons of Turkey who support Israel and N.A.T.O. But this will not last much longer as America has lost support of her European brothers/sisters, and Europe is sick of Israel and America . Allah will make them fight each other. Study your History we will see the Great America fall, we will see Islam, a NEW ISLAM came take over. But Allah must remove the devils from or path, as The Great Mahdi said "I will over turn the nations of the earth" this is going on now to save us (the Lost-Found Nation Of Islam) Allah-U-Akbar.





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Salaam----This re-post is for Sista-Soul and Brother Kamel and other who have as for the connections between the Masonic Party and world governments. It seems that some may have slept on this post. So I have re-posted it. The Masonic Order took over Turkey just after WWI (1914-1918), when Kemal Ataturk(a Jew) took control of the government, which ended the rule of Islam in Europe. He, Ataturk is known as the "Father of Modern Turkey", in other words he is their "George Washington". Ataturk was a Zionist-Mason as was most of the people who took over Turkey, this is why Turkey has ties to Israel today. I hope that the readers who WANT TO KNOW STUDY STUDY STUDY!!!!





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" I hope that the readers who WANT TO KNOW STUDY STUDY STUDY!!!! "

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WHEN KEMAL ATATURK RECITED SHEMA YISRAEL

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"It's My Secret Prayer, Too," He Confessed

A Jewish Newspaper published in New York.
January 28, 1994

ZICHRON YAAKOV - There were two questions I wanted to ask, I said over the
phone to Batya Keinan, spokeswoman for Israeli president Ezer Weizman, who
was about to leave the next day, Monday, Jan. 24, on the first visit ever
made to Turkey by a Jewish chief of state. One was whether Mr. Weizman would
be taking part in an official ceremony commemorating Kemal Ataturk.

Ms. Kenan checked the president's itinerary, according to which he and his
wife would lay a wreath on Ataturk's grave the morning of their arrival, and
asked what my second question was.

"Does President Weizman know that Ataturk had Jewish ancestors and was
taught Hebrew prayers as a boy?"

"Of course, of course," she answered as unsurprisedly as if I had inquired
whether the president was aware that Ataturk was Turkey's national hero.







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Excited and Distressed

I thanked her and hung up. A few minutes later it occurred to me to call
back and ask whether President Weizman intended to make any reference while
in Turkey to Ataturk's Jewish antecedents. "I'm so glad you called again,"
said Ms. Kenan, who now sounded excited and a bit distressed. "Exactly where
did you get your information from?"

Why was she asking, I countered, if the president's office had it too?

* Because it did not, she confessed. She had only assumed that it must
because I had sounded so matter-of-fact myself. "After you hung up," she
said, "I mentioned what you told me and nobody here knows anything about it.
Could you please fax us what you know?"

I faxed her a short version of it. Here is a longer one.

Stories about the Jewishness of Ataturk, whose statue stands in the main
square of every town and city in Turkey, already circulated in his lifetime
but were denied by him and his family and never taken seriously by
biographers. Of six biographies of him that I consulted this week, none even
mentions such a speculation. The only scholarly reference to it in print
that I could find was in the entry on Ataturk in the Israeli Entsiklopedya
ha-Ivrit, which begins:








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"Mustafa Kemal Ataturk - (1881-193, Turkish general and statesman and
founder of the modern Turkish state.

"Mustafa Kemal was born to the family of a minor customs clerk in Salonika
and lost his father when he was young. There is no proof of the belief,
widespread among both Jews and Muslims in Turkey, that his family came from
the Doenme. As a boy he rebelled against his mother's desire to give him a
traditional religious education, and at the age of 12 he was sent at his
demand to study in a military academy."

Secular Father

The Doenme were an underground sect of Sabbetaians, Turkish Jews who took
Muslim names and outwardly behaved like Muslims but secretly believed in
Sabbetai Zevi, the 17th-century false messiah, and conducted carefully
guarded prayers and rituals in his name. The encyclopedia's version of
Ataturk's education, however, is somewhat at variance with his own. Here is
his account of it as quoted by his biographers:

"My father was a man of liberal views, rather hostile to religion, and a
partisan of Western ideas. He would have preferred to see me go to a * lay
school, which did not found its teaching on the Koran but on modern science.

"In this battle of consciences, my father managed to gain the victory after
a small maneuver; he pretended to give in to my mother's wishes, and
arranged that I should enter the [Islamic] school of Fatma Molla Kadin with
the traditional ceremony. ...

"Six months later, more or less, my father quietly withdrew me from the
school and took me to that of old Shemsi Effendi who directed a free
preparatory school according to European methods. My mother made no
objection, since her desires had been complied with and her conventions
respected. It was the ceremony above all which had satisfied her."

Who was Mustafa Kemal's father, who behaved here in typical Doenme fashion,
outwardly observing Muslim ceremonies while inwardly scoffing at them?
Ataturk's mother Zubeyde came from the mountains west of Salonika, close to
the current Albanian frontier; of the origins of his father, Ali Riza,
little is known. Different writers have given them as Albanian, Anatolian
and Salonikan, and Lord Kinross' compendious 1964 "Ataturk" calls Ali Riza a
"shadowy personality" and adds cryptically regarding Ataturk's reluctance to
disclose more about his family background: "To the child of so mixed an
environment it would seldom occur, wherever his racial loyalties lay, to
inquire too exactly into his personal origins beyond that of his parentage."








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