from human sacrifice to sacrificing gods' only son for the sins of mankind!
no progress at all really. even for god!

no one?

i see a secret society of the humble
forming...True christians...muslims...taoists etc...are all seperating from the DOGMATIC ones.

you can't see them because they are not preaching.
but we are here...waiting for the AMITY.
to me that is what faith/love and OM is all about.

superstition:
1. An irrational belief that an object, action, or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome.
2
a. A belief, practice, or rite irrationally maintained by ignorance of the laws of nature or by faith in magic or chance.

b A fearful or abject state of mind resulting from such ignorance or irrationality.
c Idolatry
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=superstition

First to separate superstition from religion is a false premise.

Chrsitians and Muslims are highly superstitious people. They belive in a messiah born of a virgin birth/ they make cross signs and kiss the lucky black stone.

The Europeans have an irrational belief not founded on laws of nature etc.. that they are superior and they imposed that will on others. Thats an example of a superstition or belief working for a people.

Trouble is none of our superstitions elevate us to prime imporatnce in our own worlds. We too happy to take languages of Arabs and make them holy/ or debate over which version of the fictitious and plagurisedamalgamation of books by Roman politicians is the true word of god.

So no religion is probably more steeped or as deepin superstition than at any time in human history.

At least in kemetreligion and the sciences were one and the same.Considering the high level of theirsciences it can be said that their knowledge in the other realms must of been just as advanced.

INTERESTING....

COLTRANE wrote: From SUPERSTITION to RELIGION. Is that really any kind of progress?

Nope, both have gone backwards. Even caveman had a better clue.


Also when a person becomes superstitious and religious then they lose the ability to correct incorrect beliefs and their minds are set in stone. May as well be dead really.

OK let me clear this; I used to be a lexicographer at the Oxford English Dictionary. Forgive me if I treat dictionaries as human artefacts rather than unchanging wisdom, carved on tablets of stone.

now back to thread;

"Superstitio" was used by Cicero to describe all cults outside the official state religion and then the Christians used it against the pagans. Then the Protestants used it against the Catholics, and Europeans used it against those whom they colonized. Then some Enlightenment thinkers started to use it against all religion.

Furthermore it It has no fixed content. It refers relationally to the speaker's beliefs, rather than the beliefs being so described,afterall the origin of this concept inmost religious culture lies with Moses smashing the golden calf, of course. The prohibition of graven images is to be found among the Ten Commandments, except in some Catholic translations of the Bible. Jews, and then Christians, used this term to attack pagan representations of the gods, and they were followed in this by Muslims.
Orthodox Christians would claim that icons are not actually worshipped, but popular understanding runs pretty close to that. Roman Catholics would claim that images and relics are not actually worshipped, but popular understanding can run pretty close to that.
[align=left]Protestants rejected representation in religion, and whitewashed the great painted walls of the churches and smashed the great limewood statues.
[align=left]The Enlightenment understanding of religions, especially such religions as Hinduism, was shaped by this Protestant iconoclasm. Early accounts of Indian religion by European intellectuals were almost entirely focussed on the statuary, to the exclusion of Indian philosophy. Europeans far preferred Confucianism, despite the apparent absence of the divine and the concepts of superstition, idolatry and ritual have all been shaped by religious criticism. These are the labels which one group of people with specific views about the efficacy of certain religious beliefs or practices, first monotheists and then Protestants and finally atheists, have about the beliefs or practices of others.
[align=left]This is Us and Them language. It is not neutral. Their beliefs are meaningless, but Ours are valid. Their practices are useless, but Ours are useful. [/align]
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-Coltrane[/align]

Religion and superstition are both separate.

Religion is a set of beliefs concerning divinity that a person is supposed to use to guide thier life.

Superstitions are just baseless myths based on good and bad luck.



Brutha Mansa!

You said Christians and Muslims are highly superstitious people.

Now some people of Kemet believe that the universe was created when a big monster was slain and cut in half. The top half became the heavens and the bottom half the Earth.

Does this sound like sound doctrine and science to you, or superstition?

Do you alsobelieve this is how the universe began?