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When we pray we say in the name of Jesus. But whoy do we pray to Jesus if thats not his real name. Thats a name given to him by whites his real name is Yashua or something. So i dont get it. Why are we praying to a made up name instead of his true name.

Also we pray to god and the same thing applies. Hers an example in the bible when jesus is being crucified, who did he cry out, it was eli not god. So why do we say in god name instead of eli like jesus did. Isnt god just some name that white people gave him, so really we might aswell be saying in paul we trust or in Goku we trust as those are not their true name.

You see the church is just to conditioned. It teaches you nothing except rehashing the same topics. Thats why there is even a warnig in the bible to seek the truth yet all people do is wake and go to church and listen what some stranger says and nod their head and leave without questionong anything. Why do you think god gave us a brain?

IMO A lot of churches do more harm than good especially those blind followers.

And another point how can people justify going to a church like kicc. I mean the guy says masturbation is good. I know his son and his son even said he let a girl give him head in the church. I mean what the hell. The church is so corropt and unhealthy. I think people have lost the true meaning of a church.

Its a sad sad day were living in.


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Which church are you talking about?


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When we pray we say in the name of Jesus. But whoy do we pray to Jesus if thats not his real name. Thats a name given to him by whites his real name is Yashua or something. So i dont get it. Why are we praying to a made up name instead of his true name.
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^^^ GOD is OMNI= all He has many names, Yah, Jah, Eloh, El Shaddai, Jehovah, Allah, Kami, Got, dios, Theos, Yashua, ILAHYahu-eh-Shua, Isa, Jesse, Y'Shua, Jesus ETC.
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Jesus IN ACTS 4:12,was given to us where we might be saved, thats the function of The name Jesus, for saving, cleansing, remission of sins, the way to the FATHER is in that name,
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HE IS ALSO CALLED THE WORD OF GOD, (REV 19:13, JOHN 1:1)^^^
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Also we pray to god and the same thing applies. Hers an example in the bible when jesus is being crucified, who did he cry out, it was eli not god. So why do we say in god name instead of eli like jesus did. Isnt god just some name that white people gave him, so really we might aswell be saying in paul we trust or in Goku we trust as those are not their true name.

paul or paulos, ELI, Eloh, GOD, GOTT, KAMI, MAKU, EL, tghis has to do with language, GOD mad all the languages, he separated all the languages, the name in those cultures are used by those cultures HE still hears His name in those cultures

Psalm 19:2&3

Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

[There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard.


You see the church is just to conditioned. It teaches you nothing except rehashing the same topics. Thats why there is even a warnig in the bible to seek the truth yet all people do is wake and go to church and listen what some stranger says and nod their head and leave without questionong anything. Why do you think god gave us a brain?


^^^ I agree we should do as in 2 tim 2:15 and study to show ourselves approved, we need to follow on to know the LORD (hosea 6:3) then shall we know, these days we need a word in due season (prov 15:23) not the same rehashed common salvation (jude 1:3) which is present truth

2Pe 1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know [them], and be established in the present truth.

present truth is the truth we already know and are established in, we need fulfilling truth to carry us over to the next life

Colossians 1:25

Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;



IMO A lot of churches do more harm than good especially those blind followers.
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^^^ i agree with you, those that are just getting money and not feeding these
souls are just a waste of time


Isaiah 9:16

For the leaders of this people cause [them] to err; and [they that are] led of them [are] destroyed.

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The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love [to have it] so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?


And another point how can people justify going to a church like kicc. I mean the guy says masturbation is good. I know his son and his son even said he let a girl give him head in the church. I mean what the hell. The church is so corropt and unhealthy. I think people have lost the true meaning of a church.

Its a sad sad day were living in.


yes what a sad time, but we need to walk in the light of the word (psalm 119"105) and be into the will for the hour (eph 5:17) which is Law{the 10 commandments, exo 20:3-17, romans 8:4} and Testimony {John 14:26) (Isa 8:16,20, Heb 10:14-17) in 1 faith {Eph 4:5,13} for the fulness of times (Eph 1:10)




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When we pray we say in the name of Jesus. But whoy do we pray to Jesus if thats not his real name. Thats a name given to him by whites his real name is Yashua or something. So i dont get it. Why are we praying to a made up name instead of his true name.

Also we pray to god and the same thing applies. Hers an example in the bible when jesus is being crucified, who did he cry out, it was eli not god. So why do we say in god name instead of eli like jesus did. Isnt god just some name that white people gave him, so really we might aswell be saying in paul we trust or in Goku we trust as those are not their true name.

This is why Muslims call the Creator by the same name Issa (Jesus), Musa (Moses), Ibruhim (Abraham) as well as the Hebrews and other prophets called Him.

We call him Allah.

Al=The
Lah=God


Allah can also be spelled "Eloh" as Sleep No More demonstrated.....but both are pronounced the same because they're the same word.

Eli is more of a Greek or Greek influenced Aramaic word because the New Testament was written in Greek. Jeus and Moses are also Greek names for the Hebrew prophets..



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Post imported post - 25-07-05, 04:58 PM

This topic has been debated several times but I see that my christian brothers and sisters are still slowly finding out the truth, and it will make you free.

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^^^ GOD is OMNI= all He has many names, Yah, Jah, Eloh, El Shaddai, Jehovah, Allah, Kami, Got, dios, Theos, Yashua, ILAHYahu-eh-Shua, Isa, Jesse, Y'Shua, Jesus ETC

This is not true, the Creator has only one name and it is Yahweh. People call him by many other names but that don't make them right.

For example: Jehovah is a word that did not come into existance until a couple of hundred years ago if that long. It is a made up word that never existed.

Jesus IN ACTS 4:12,was given to us where we might be saved, thats the function of The name Jesus, for saving, cleansing, remission of sins, the way to the FATHER is in that name,

The scripture is true but the name is not. How could this be when the name jesus has no meaning. It is a hybrid greek and latin that also is a fabrication. Traditions of the time called for children to named something with great meaning good or bad.

Proverbs 22:1

1": A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.


And why would a Hebrew man and woman name their child a greek or latin name?

Jesus= nothing

Yahshua= The salvation of Yahweh

paul or paulos, ELI, Eloh, GOD, GOTT, KAMI, MAKU, EL, tghis has to do with language, GOD mad all the languages, he separated all the languages, the name in those cultures are used by those cultures HE still hears His name in those cultures

If you study name and Languages you will find that Names are not traslated but transliterated so as to keep the meaning of the name in tact. Your name in French is your name in English with a few exceptions. If you ever heard someone speaking spanish or another language when they get to your name they say Mike or William they don't call you something else.

Brother TehoWnage,

You should delve deaper and you will find what you are looking for the truth is not on the surface. Jesus is not his name period and god is not even a name it is a title. Keep searching brother.

Shalom






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