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YUSUFALI: Those messengers We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan.
PICKTHAL: Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah spake, while some of them He exalted (above others) in degree; and We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) and We supported him with the holy Spirit. And if
Allah had so wiled it, those who followed after them would not have fought one with another after the clear proofs had come unto them. But they differed, some of them believing and some disbelieving. And if Allah had so willed it, they would not have fought one with another; but Allah doeth what He will.
SHAKIR: We have made some of these messengers to excel the others among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa son of Marium, and strengthened him with the holy spirit. And if Allah had pleased, those after them would not have fought one with another after clear arguments had come to them, but they disagreed; so there were some of them who believed and others who denied; and if Allah had pleased they would not have fought one with another, but Allah brings about what He intends.
Tilka alrrusulu faddalna baAAdahum AAala baAAdin minhum man kallama Allahu warafaAAa baAAdahum darajatin waatayna AAeesa ibna maryama albayyinati waayyadnahu biroohi alqudusi walaw shaa Allahu ma iqtatala allatheena min baAAdihim min baAAdi ma jaat-humu albayyinatu walakini ikhtalafoo faminhum man amana waminhum man kafara walaw shaa Allahu ma iqtataloo walakinna Allaha yafAAalu ma yureedu
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Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say that ALLAH is a human.
The Qur'an does say that there is nothing like ALLAH.
If there is nothing like ALLAH, than ALLAH cannot be like a human.
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DO YOU NOT BELIEVE IT GOES W/OUT SAYING THAT ALLAH "COMMUNICATED" W/"ALL" MESSENGERS?
IF YOU NOTICE, IN THIS VERSE THE QU'RAN STATES, "...
To one of them Allah spoke;
I TELL YOU WHAT, LET US USE THE WORD "COMMUNICATE" IN PLACE OF "SPOKE" AND "SPAKE" AND SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE...
Those messengers We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah COMMUNICATED; ...
Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah COMMUNICATED, ...
NOW, CONSIDERING ALLAH "COMMUNICATED W/ "ALL" THE MESSENGERS, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE???
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If there is nothing like ALLAH, than ALLAH cannot be like a human.
YOUMIS-UNDERSTAND. ALLAH APPEARED IN THE PERSONOF A MAN.
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Nowhere in the Qur'an does it say that ALLAH is a human.
IT SURELY IMPLIES THAT HE WAS OR, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT A SPIRIT CAN SPEAK?
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08-07-05, 01:21 AM
Zoo keepers "communicate/speak with the animals, this does not mean they are all humans or all on the same level.
"speaking" does not specifically and unequiviacally mean that Allah is human.
We are told there is wine in paridise flowing in rivers, but this does not mean it is the same as wine on earth available in the local store.
allah "spoke", Allah also created the universe and gives and takes life. Man can create and give and take life... this does not make them allah.
The Qur'an does not state (or even imply) that Allah is human.
You cannot show me one verse where it does.
42:11 There is nothing whatever like unto him
112:4 There is none like unto him
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Zoo keepers "communicate/speak with the animals, this does not mean they are all humans or all on the same level.
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"SPEAK" SURELY DOES NOT MEAN "COMMUNICATE"....
Quick definitions (speak)
[*]verb: make a characteristic or natural sound [*]verb: use language (Example: "The prisoner won't speak") [*]verb: express in speech
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08-07-05, 01:39 AM
allah "spoke",
DO YOU BELIEVE HE DID SO W/OUT A VOICE?
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08-07-05, 01:55 AM
The Qur'an does not say Allah is a human.
The Qur'an does say:
42:11. There is nothing whatever like unto him
112:4. There is none like unto him
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YOUMIS-UNDERSTAND. ALLAH APPEARED IN THE PERSONOF A MAN.
jamal786 wrote:
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The Qur'an does not say Allah is a human.
The Qur'an does say:
42:11. There is nothing whatever like unto him
112:4. There is none like unto him
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08-07-05, 02:06 AM
I fully overstand.
the qur'an does not say allah is human, appreared in a human, appeared as a human, etc. Does not say it. In fact the Qur'an will tell you the Christians were wrong to attribute similar things to Allah.
42:11. there is nothing like unto him
112:4. There is none like unto him
6:102. No vision can grasp him
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08-07-05, 02:11 AM
SIR, YOU ARE BASICALLY SAYING "F" WHAT THE QUR'AN STATES, SINCE THIS DOES NOT AGREE W/YOUR THEOLOGY.
I HAVE ALREADY PROVIDED PROOF THAT, "SPEAK" DOES NOT MEAN "COMMUNICATE".
I AGREE, THERE IS NOTHING LIKE ALLAH. THIS IN NO WAY PREVENTS HIM FROM APPEARING IN THE FORM OFA MAN.
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YUSUFALI: Those messengers We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan.
PICKTHAL: Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah spake, while some of them He exalted (above others) in degree; and We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) and We supported him with the holy Spirit. And if
Allah had so wiled it, those who followed after them would not have fought one with another after the clear proofs had come unto them. But they differed, some of them believing and some disbelieving. And if Allah had so willed it, they would not have fought one with another; but Allah doeth what He will.
SHAKIR: We have made some of these messengers to excel the others among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa son of Marium, and strengthened him with the holy spirit. And if Allah had pleased, those after them would not have fought one with another after clear arguments had come to them, but they disagreed; so there were some of them who believed and others who denied; and if Allah had pleased they would not have fought one with another, but Allah brings about what He intends.
Tilka alrrusulu faddalna baAAdahum AAala baAAdin minhum man kallama Allahu warafaAAa baAAdahum darajatin waatayna AAeesa ibna maryama albayyinati waayyadnahu biroohi alqudusi walaw shaa Allahu ma iqtatala allatheena min baAAdihim min baAAdi ma jaat-humu albayyinatu walakini ikhtalafoo faminhum man amana waminhum man kafara walaw shaa Allahu ma iqtataloo walakinna Allaha yafAAalu ma yureedu
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08-07-05, 02:16 AM
You have proven nothing.
The Qur'an is clear:
112:4. There is none like unto him
42:11. There is nothing whatever like unto him
102:6. No vision can grasp him
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