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22-08-05, 12:09 PM
Like mike said it doesnt matter the colour of Jesus. It is what he did for man kinds salvation, which is important.
Can i ask what would you class as a jew?
Are they supposed to look a certain way?
My 2nd cousin in jamaica, her mother is Jewish
We would class her as half white half black but i heard if your mother is jewish then your definantly a jew.
My cousin has two children with her husband who is black.Her children look black so would you say they are black jews?
Who GOD hires No man Fires!
*SKIES THE LIMIT*
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22-08-05, 02:38 PM
It is unbelievable some of these responses to this topic. We as black people don't wan't the Mashiah to be black because we ourselves hold ourselves in such low esteem and for him to be black would mean that our savior is lowly like we think of ourselves.
Yahshua was a black man plain and simple. Not only does the bible say so but if you do any kind of research of the past or of biblical times you will see that. Why is it so easy for us to accept with no research that he was a white man and so hard for white/blacks after it has been researched to see that he was a black man. Someone here even tried to imply that he was an Arab.
Here is how he is black.
Noah had three sons. Yahshua is from the line of shem(A Black man). When his family was on the run Yahweh told Yoseph to take the child to Egypt(Mitzriam). The people of Mitzriam are from the line of Ham(A black man). Which means he would have been in the land of his cousins. This explains how he could have blended in so well.
There were no white men or arabs in Egypt at this time.
Shalom
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25-08-05, 08:36 PM
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I was at a Black Baptist Church last year. There was a huge mural on one wall. A White Jesus, White angels, White apostles. LOL Sometimes I think Black people would be more shocked by a Black Jesus than the White people.
For some reason the Poles have a Black Madonna and child.
http://www.marypages.com/Czestochowa.htm
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That is because the Ancient Egyptian religion permeated Europe and Asia long before the Greco-Roman period. The Christian religion was nothing but a copy of Egyptian mythology. The Black Madonna is what the early Christians settled forbecause they wouldn't give up their belief in the first Madonna and Child being Auset (Isis) and her son Heru (Horus).
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Everything else from the time of year Jesus was crucified, Easter, Christmas, and other Jewish and Christian observances have been practiced by Egyptians for over 5000 years now.
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25-08-05, 08:56 PM
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@milton
plz give me your source for claiming jesus' blackness
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If you don't mind me butting in, I think I could give some Biblical sources in reference to Jesus' appearance
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"...Out of Egypt, I have called my son." ~Matthew 2:15
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"[suP]14[/suP]His head and hair were white like wool...[suP]15[/suP][/suP]His feet were like bronze ..." ~Revelations 1:14-15
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For Jesus to come from Egypt, it is rather discriminatory to suggest that he unprobabilistically did not look African like the indigenous population. Furthermore, only people with African genes typically have hair that istexturally "like wool".
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I do not believe in the Bible as being God's word, but I do think the Biblical writers were talking about a Black man.
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25-08-05, 09:19 PM
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As i understand it Jesus in his true stateis black as burnt bronze as the Bible says. But when he came to earth he was born as a Jew having olive coloured skin.
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Your statement assumes that the original Hebrews were actually "olive skinned". All the archaeological remains in Palestine show that dark skinned people (with wooly hair) mostlyinhabited the regionduring Biblical times until after the Jewish-Roman War of 70 CE.
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By assuming "real" Jews are olive-skinned, then you are discriminating against the oldest Jews in recorded historybeing inEthiopia (or sometimes called the Falashas). Or how about the Black Jews in Yemen, South Africa, or those of India? The European Jews are mostly European in geneaology that have accepted/converted to theHebrew faith many years later.
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Over 95% of European Jews are Ashkenazi (or however you spell it), and they were converts (Chosen People from the Caucasus by Michael Bradley). The Sephardi Jews have a more true Jewish geneaology of European Jews, but even that is diminishing in whiteness.
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25-08-05, 09:25 PM
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Jesus was middle-eatern, how could he be black? he was probably bronze coloured as the member above also stated.
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Take a penny out of your pocket. That is bronze color...if it is U.S. currency. If you see a person who has skinthat color walking around today, we associate them with the "Black" race of people. However, when it comes to identifying people of importance throughout history, we get this deceptive ambiguity thrown in.
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Basically, ifthe bronze-colored Jesus was in front of you right now, you would call him Black.
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27-08-05, 09:56 PM
Why does it matter?
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