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28-07-05, 04:55 PM
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.
Salaam to all.
Milton Killer wrote: "does this mean those rejecting whatever this mark is, or who don't have the beast's name or number, will die of starvation?"
No, not necessarily. But it does mean that those who refuse the "mark" will have a very hard time - the Bible calls it a period of great tribulation - for a certain time period, ESPECIALLY if they do not know "How to Eat to Live".
The Hon. Elijah Muhammad taught us - as is written in his books, How to Eat to Live, 1 & 2 - to eat ONE MEAL A DAY, to FAST for THREE DAYS out of every month, to get away (as much as possible) from MEAT and other bad foods, and he taught us what foods to store in our houses.
In addition to the obvious health benefits associated with Eating to Live, the Hon. Elijah Muhammad wanted us to be PREPARED for the day when those of us who refuse the "mark of the beast" would be persecuted and denied access to goods and services because of our Love for Truth and Righteousness, or for when our neighborhoods are turned into occupied territories - police states.
According to the Scriptures, only 144,000 were so prepared. There were many more who made it into the hereafter, but they had to go through a "great tribulation", because they were not prepared spiritually, mentally or materially.
We are now living in the time when the Beast is in the process of launching his campaign against the rise of Black people and righteous people everywhere, especially those who refuse his "mark".
WHAT IS this "mark" of the Beast???
The "mark of the Beast" is not, in the truest sense, a PHYSICAL mark. It is symbolic of a MINDSET. The Bible teaches us that, in the Last Days - which are NOW - the Beast, or Dragon, will have DECEIVED the "whole world." What does that mean?
It means that the "whole world" has been DECEIVED into following the ways and directives of the Beast...and they don't even REALIZE it. The Nature of deception is such that it's Victim doesn't realize he or she has been deceived. But what does DECEPTION do to the PSYCHE? It leaves a "mark" on our consciousness. So, the "whole world", being "deceived" by the Beast, is under the "mark of the Beast."
And so the Bible, again, teaches us that, "we are born in sin, and shaped in iniquity." Not that the ACT of sex is sinful, but that we are born into a WORLD that has been DECEIVED, and so reflects the Sinful nature of the Beast; and our MINDS are shaped by the INIQUITY of this world.
So, the "mark of the Beast...in the FOREHEAD" only means having a mind that is deceived into accepting the Beast's rule and values and perception. Naturally, since it is the MIND which governs the DEEDS which are carried out by our HANDS, then whatever "mark" is in our "forehead" will be also in our HANDS. In other words, as we THINK, so shall we DO. So it means that the people are thinking the thoughts, and committing the acts, of the Beast.
This is serious, because it means we have to re-examine EVERYTHING that we were taught, and have accepted as TRUE.
Now, GOD ALSO HAS A MARK:
Revelation, Chapter 7
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Revelation 14:1 - And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Now, here's where it gets a little touchy...lol.
WHY did God give the people HIS Name (Mark)? What was wrong with the names they were born with??? Apparently, the names that they were born with were NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! Why?? Because they were born into, and marked by, a world of Sin...the world of the Beast. It was their WILLINGNESS to GIVE UP the name (mark) of the Beast that made them eligible to receive a Name from God.
Now...WHO is this BEAST? If we know who the BEAST is, then we know how to identify his MARK, and get out from under it.
The Bible teaches, "Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a MAN...six hundred, three score and six." (666) This is all symbolic.
What is the NATURE of a Beast? A Beast is a creature that is ruled by appetite and instinct, and is, therefore SELFISH and SELF CENTERED. A Beast, in the context given, is a PREDATOR - one who feeds on the Flesh of others - and a Hunter. A BEAST has NO MERCY for it's PREY.
Now, what "MAN" on this earth, has "deceived the whole world", and has the characteristics of a bloodthirsty BEAST? The Caucasian WHITE MAN!
What is his Mark? Well, we've gone over that for the most part. But I must say this. Just as the Mark of God includes His Name, so does the mark of the Beast include HIS NAME! The WHITE MAN's NAME is the MARK OF THE BEAST!! The white man's MIND is the "mark of the Beast". If we are wearing either one, we are wearing his mark, and so BELONG to him.
If we want to be among God's Elect, we MUST GIVE UP that name, and accept a Name (and Mind)from God.
Peace and Love,
RM
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28-07-05, 06:55 PM
does this mean those rejecting whatever this mark is, or who don't have the beast's name or number, will die of starvation?
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@Milton,
Ecclesiastes 1 verse 9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Read the scriptures and you will see that all kingdoms of biblical times impose some kind of rule that forces the hand of the believers in God.
Prophet Elijah ran because Jezebel was busy slaying every prophet that spoke against her. Daniel whom they knew prayed three times a day at his window, they found an occasion through the laws they invented to cause Daniel to be in problems with the system and with King Nebuchadnezra...
In the cases I cite, God provided for those men, stopped the mouth of the lion for Daniel and provided food from the raven for Elijah.
The beast is coming, your id cards and the totalitarian system which follows swiftly behind it, and we will see who believes in God and who does not.
Laws stating you cannot speak against homosexuals or adultery or fornication, cannot incite religious hatred, does this mean you cannot show someone where they err in their belief, is that incite?
Yet let me say that Daniel was a man willing to die for his belief and some of us must start to ready ourselves and put on such a mindset. Jesus said "what is it that we lose our souls and gain the world".. Onezeroseven hit on a point, some believe that the mark of the beast is to do with recieving a chip in the flesh, but I believe that way before even reaching that stage, pscychologically we can already have received the mark through things we take so simple... A love for money is a dangerous thing watch your appetite, be willing to cut your throat as the bible says rather than to eat the food the king is offering, that includes fame and honour amongst them at all ranks of society be willing to turn that offer down, if it will change your mindset toward God. These heap of tattoos these day people etching into their flesh, so fashionable, but if you go there, where else will go, you allow something foreign to touch what is the temple of the living God or a potential temple (i'm speaking of your body/flesh) then how far are you from receiving the mark of the beast ?.
We could change the world, If God would give us the source code.
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28-07-05, 07:13 PM
justavoice you make a good point. i always heard of mark of the beast
but last sunday my pastor spoke of the religious hate crime bill....what got me was the fact that the uk gov are trying to say it will protect us who follow a particular religion but in fact it will be used against us. just think if someone finds you offences for speaking to them about your beliefs you could be locked up
but yes those chipped biometric id cards passports are the beginning and chip and pin bank cards etc.
Think outside of the box...Think in spirit
Act as if it were impossible to fail!!!
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28-07-05, 09:47 PM
I've always wondered about the number 144,000. Surely, I thought there would be more people that would be saved, because surely, their would be millions that loved our God, and turned it all over to him. I'm not sure of that number because man rewrote the bible and scriptures, and some seem to think "The Mark" = 666.
I understand, Prince Charles and William have had the chip implanted. Lord help us all, because that is some stuff, when we won't be able to decline its implant if we wish not to be a part of it.
Signs of the times. Now that is something I do believe in. I'm just not positive of its evolution.
http://www.rastafarispeaks.com/cgi-b...mes;read=56320
http://www.jaysnet.com/666mark.html
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29-07-05, 09:01 PM
LadyDay wrote:
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justavoice you make a good point. i always heard of mark of the beast
but last sunday my pastor spoke of the religious hate crime bill....what got me was the fact that the uk gov are trying to say it will protect us who follow a particular religion but in fact it will be used against us. just think if someone finds you offences for speaking to them about your beliefs you could be locked up
but yes those chipped biometric id cards passports are the beginning and chip and pin bank cards etc."
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Exactly LadyDay, that bill can be used against the very people they say it is to protect. Its interesting times for sure.
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check out this site to re educate yrself
www.israelitenation.com
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01-08-05, 08:05 PM
What is this mark? And does this mark have any connection with the Sabbath of the 4th comanment?
In order to do something one first must want to do it!
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01-08-05, 09:09 PM
We cannot talk about the mark of the beast without giving mention to the "Seal of God. What is God's seal?
A seal is something having to do with legal affairs. Alaw is stamped with the seal of the ruling goverment. A seal has three parts:
1) The name of the ruler.
2) The ruler,s title.
3) The territory over which he rules.
When the goverment seal is on a law, or currency, it is official. The whole loyal nation stands behind it. God,s seal makes his law official, and the whole loyal universe stands behind it.
Anyone disloyal to the seal of the goverment, and to the law upon which it is attached, is looked upon as being disloyal to the goverment itself.
Just as a goverment ruler,s seal is placed in his law to make it official. God,s seal is in his law. "Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples." Isaiah 8:16
Where are we sealed? In the forehead. His law is in our hearts. Under the new covenant, His promise is: " This is the covenant that i will make with them after those day,saith the lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will i write them". Hebrews 10:16
The Holy Spirit places the seal of God in our foreheads when we choose it. The forehead contains the "frontal lobe" This section section of the brain is where our conscience is. it means you have it your conscience. You believe it. You,re loyal to it.
In closing just as the goverment ruler uses his seal"" of goverment to enforce the laws of the land, God uses His" seal" to enforce His law. The beast will use his seal ( mark), to try to enforce his law in place of God,s
Where will you find the seal of God with its three parts?
In the very center of his law. take a close look:
" Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work....For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it Exodus 20:8-11
This is the only place in the bible where you will find God,s seal. Here are the three parts of the seal.
1) His name-" Lord".
2) His Title-"thy God"( Creator).
3) His Territory-" heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is
IN HIS SERVICE
Obadiah.
In order to do something one first must want to do it!
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