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What do you do as a christian when you hear people taking the Lord name in vain at work? I have two colleagues that do this regular as its part of their language. Should I get angry and say you should say that - though don't want to come across as a "Mary Whitehouse" character.

Though I would say something if someone said something against blacks and christ is more a part of me than my colour !!

hmm

how do you define "taking the lords name in vain"?

because I can tell you saying something like "oh my god" or "for gods sake" is not what that means. When the Bible refers to taking the lords name in vain it means using God to justify wicked means.

Good example being the Spanish conquistadors. Killing and destroying in the name of God and Christendom. "God says those people are wicked and must be cleansed and die". THAT is taking the lords name in vain.

Taking the lords name in vain also means using God to justify a lie. "I swear by God that this is true" when you know it's not true, THAT is taking the lords name in vain.

These are sins.

Saying "oh my God"is not a sin or even taking his name in vain, it is a mere expression.

When they say "oh my GOD" which GOD are they reffering to?there are lot's of SO CALLED GODS but there is only ONEalmighty GOD,the christian GOD.

When the Bible says don't take "The Lord's Name" in vain.


It doesn't mean it the way it's popularly interpreted.

Saying "Oh my God" and "Goddammit" is perfectly fine!

Why....because "God" and "Lord" are English terms and the name that was being refered to in those scriptures were the Hebrew names for the Creator.

Words like Yawah, Elohim, Hashem, Adoni, El Elyon were the words used for the God of the Hebrews.

Like the others posted, what you think is taking the Lord's name in vain these days is different from what the bible means. Some have explained it already. Also there is Baptism, where we take on the name of the Lord. We actually are wearing his name, we are associated with him, both now and in the world to come.

So our behaviour matters more to God than what a sinner in ignorance might say about him.

For instance, who would you feel more hurt by, if they said something against you ? .

1) a complete stranger or
2) a family member.

My advice would be try not to be too see through. There are skirmishes and there are wars. God will lead you into what fights are necessary and which are not.

Remember to, the first Psalms says that "We are not to stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of the scornful".

I find that as I grow in Christ, he doesn't want me to live in judgement of others, but to persuade through how i live that a life in him is more complete.

I no someone now who swears continuously, but i never say a thing, but as he continues and we start to understand one another, the swearing is slowly dying away, and the things we now talk, its amazing how deep most unbelievers are.

be patient, Isaiah, said to Lord, "I am a man of unclean lips who dwell amongst men of unclean lips". God didn't sort out the other men, he simply sorted out Isaiah.

Do not say any thing just pretend not to hear it. Dont you think Jesus can defend himself?

Joshua 10:11 (KJV)
And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Beth-horon, that the Lord cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.


If God can throow stones out of heaven upon his enemy he can do any thing.

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Omaar-

Thank you for clearing things up back there, for those of you who don't know.

That name of God of the Hebrews, YHVH is not supposed to pronouncable or utterable at all. For that reason thwe Hebrews suggested that in prayer the name of God ALHIM, AL or some other name is uttered in its place.

But that all has to do with Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism and nothing to do with Christianity to begin with, so I'm not so sure why its an issue.

You see the name IHVH is suppossed to (kabbalistically) define the nature of God as the totality of all that exists:

Yod He Vav He=Fire Water Air Earth=South West East North= and etc. Fill in the tables of correspondance as you wish. And if you think of 'elements' like fire as the fire you and I are familiar with then you've got a long way to go before anything makes sense here.

The point is that utterance of this name points to the proclamation of Genesis which gives man dominion over the earth and things in creation, and therefore invokes the forces of creation in their totality, ie, GOD ABSOLUTE, something no man comprehends nor can control, since everything in created existence must honor it, and taking this name in vain divides man from the rest of creation and places him in a position of responsibility for it-which he cannot handle (see the Qur' an for details here)

I really don't like getting into these discussions. Suffice to say that none of us have any idea as much as we think we do about anything, and wont until we start learning to embrace the similarity of things rather than abhor the differences between things (in meaning and definition).

Likein another thread someone suggested that a spirit and a ghost were two different things. NOT.

"Ghost" is German "Geist" which is apparition or spirit. Stuff like that.

Essentially my feelings about the issue presented here is that it is more a matter of hubris than concern over whether or not someone is saying something wrong. There are far better mannered people in the world who are FAR MORE WICKED. So one's ideas about utterances merely diminish the humanity of others while indulging in self- riteousness. Not an indictment, but just pointing out a typical kind of error. We none of us are perfect-Only perfectly who we are, which is subject to change anyway (as has already been pointed out).

It is a beautiful world. It is a beatiful life. Let God worry about what God intends, and do not allow the weaknesses of man to overthrow the peace of one's soul.

What do you do as a christian when you hear people taking the Lord name in vain at work? I have two colleagues that do this regular as its part of their language. Should I get angry and say you should say that - though don't want to come across as a "Mary Whitehouse" character.


In one of my vision I saw a man get kill for the same thing. It is a trap, the person do not know Christ, but they know you. It is done to let you take it personaly, and to get an argument started. Then they came down an you. Jesus do not want you to die for him, he want you to live for him and to be around to bring others to him. Pretend not to hear.

As a Christian this is exactly what you should do. Say you heathens!!! Hail Glory!! like Esther in Sanford and Son did. It allways worked against Fred. When she did that he shut the hell up. LOL

ME BEING A CHRISTAIN PREACHER I WOULD PRAY FOR THEM. LET THEM KNOW THAT IT OFFENDS ME. AND TRUST GOD THAT HE'LL LET THEM UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF THE NAME THEY CALL. THE NAME THATS ABOVE EVERY NAME, THE NAME OF JESUS: HEALS, DELIVERS, REDEEMS, SETS FREE, SAVES, PLUS.