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Reload this Page Heru: Proof Jesus Never Existed

View Poll Results: With all this evidence you presented I believe:
Heru is obviously the prototype for a fictional Jesus. 3 30.00%
Heru is obviously some complex scheme by Egyptians to blaspheme Jesus'. 0 0%
I don't care what facts you have. Jesus is real. 2 20.00%
I didn't read the whole post. No need. Jesus is King! 1 10.00%
I don't care either way. 1 10.00%
I been knew this. Welcome to the club. 3 30.00%
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"The Christian myths were first related of Horus or Osiris, who was the embodiment of divine goodness, wisdom, truth and purity...This was the greatest hero that ever lived in the mind of man -- not in the flesh -- the only hero to whom the miracles were natural because he was not human." 1
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"...I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me." Hosea 13:4, King James Version. This passage may have an additional and completely different meaning from that usually assigned.




About Yeshua of Nazareth: He is commonly referred to as Jesus Christ, although Joshua would be a more accurate translation of his first name. "Christ" is not his last name; it is simply the Greek word for "Messiah," or "anointed one." Theologians have discovered about 50 gospels which were widely used by Jewish, Pauline and Gnostic groups within the early Christian movement. Only four of these were chosen by the surviving group, Pauline Christianity, and were included in the Bible. Those four Gospels describe Jesus as a Jew who was born to a virgin in Palestine circa 4 to 7 BCE. He is portrayed as a rabbi, teacher, healer, exorcist, magician, prophet, and religious leader who had a one year (according to Mark, Matthew and Luke) or a three year (according to John) ministry in Palestine, starting when he was about 30 years old. Most Christians believe that he was executed by the Roman occupying army, visited the underworld, was resurrected, spent 40 days with his disciples, and then ascended to heaven. Most Christian denominations view Jesus as God, and as the Son of God, the second person in the Trinity.|

Conservative Christians view the Gospels as being inerrant whose authors were inspired by God. The Gospels and other passages in the Bible are mostly interpreted literally. Muslims revere Jesus as a great prophet -- next only to Muhammad in importance. They regard the assertion that Jesus is God to be blasphemy.

About Horus: Various ancient Egyptian statues and writings tell of Horus, (pronounced "hohr'-uhs;" a.k.a. Harseisis, Heru-sa-Aset (Horus, son of Isis), Heru-ur (Horus the elder), Hr, and Hrw), a creator sky God. He was worshipped thousands of years before the first century CE -- the time when Jesus was ministering in Palestine. 2 Horus was often represented as a stylized eye symbol, symbolizing the eye of a falcon. He was also presented "in the shape of a sparrow hawk or as a man [or lion] with a hawk's head." 3 He is often shown as an infant cradled by his mother Isis. He was considered to be the son of two major Egyptian deities: the God Osirus and and the Goddess Isis. In adulthood, he avenged his father's murder, and became recognized as the God of civil order and justice. Each of the Egyptian pharaohs were believed to be the living embodiment -- an incarnation -- of Horus. 4



"A list of the names of all the gods of Egypt would fill pages. But all these gods were only forms, attribu

tes or phases of Ra, the solar god, who himself was the supreme symbol or metaphor for God....Horus, the son of Osirus and Isis, is himself an aspect of Ra." 6


Life events shared by Horus and Jesus

Stories from the life of Horus had been circulating for centuries before Jesus birth (circa 4 to 7 BCE). If any copying occurred by the writers of the Egyptian or Christian religions, it was the followers of Jesus who incorporated into his biography the myths and legends of Horus, not vice-versa.

According to author and theologian Tom Harpur: "[Author Gerald] Massey discovered nearly two hundred instances of immediate correspondence between the mythical Egyptian material and the allegedly historical Christian writings about Jesus. Horus indeed was the archetypal Pagan Christ." 7
This essay continues below.

Compare Events Between Heru & Jesus
Conception: Horus/by virgin | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/by virgin8
Father: Horus/Only begotten son of the God Osiris. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).
Mother: Horus/Meri. 9 | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Miriam (a.k.a. Mary).
Foster father: Horus/Seb, (Jo-Seph). 9 | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Joseph.
Foster father's ancestry: Horus/Of royal descent. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Of royal descent.
Birth location: Horus/In a cave. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/In a cave or stable.
Annunciation: Horus/By an angel to Isis, his mother. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/By an angel to Miriam, his mother. 8
Birth heralded by: Horus/The star Sirius, the morning star. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/An unidentified "star in the East."
Birth date: Horus/Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (typically DEC-21). | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable Sun), etc.
Birth announcement: Horus/By angels. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/By angels. 8
Death threat during infancy: Horus/Herut tried to have Horus murdered. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.
Baptized by: Horus/Anup the Baptiser. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/John the Baptist.
Close followers:Horus/Twelve disciples. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Twelve disciples.
Method of deathHorus/Twelve disciples. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/By crucifixion.
Fate after death:Horus/resurrected after three days. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/resurrected after about 30 to 38 hours (Friday PM to presumably some time in Sunday AM) covering parts of three days.
Common portrayal:Horus/Virgin Isis holding the infant Horus. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Virgin Mary holding the infant Jesus.
Description:Horus/the Lamb. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/the lamb.
Zodiac Sign:Horus/Pisces the fish. | Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus/Pisces the fish.



Quotes:
Heru: "I am the possessor of bread in Anu. I have bread in heaven with Ra."
Jesus: "I am the living bread that came down from heaven."

Heru: "I am Horus who stepeth onward through eternity...Eternity and everlastingness is my name."
Jesus: "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today and forever."

Egyptian/Kemetians: “Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.�
Bible: "You reap what you sow."

Get the Facts:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
http://www.africawithin.com/kwaku/virgin_birth.htm
http://www.saxakali.com/suzar/madonna.htm
http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/articles...ilarities.html
http://www.daghettotymz.com/current/...cy-update.html
http://members.tripod.com/sunbull/id18.htm

Bibliography

1. Gerald Massey, "The Natural Genesis," Black Classic Press, (Reissued 1998). Read reviews or order this book safely from Amazon.com online book store.
2. Tom Harpur, "The Pagan Christ; Recovering the Lost Light," Thomas Allen, (2004), Page 5. Read reviews or order this book.
3. "Egyptian god Horus, The Louvre, Paris," at: http://ancienthistory.about.com/
4. Information taken from essays linked to "Horus - Egyptian God," at: http://ancienthistory.about.com/
5. Images copied from the web site of the Dark Forest of Ulcron, a supplier of Pagan and New Age items, from Athames to Tarot Cards. See: http://www.ulcron.com/ Images used by permission.
6. Op Cit., Tom Harpur, Page 69.
7. Ibid, Page 85.
8. Ibid, Page 80. Items as seen in the Temple of Luxor, built by Amenhotep III, a pharaoh of the eighteenth dynasty, before 1700 BCE.
9. Ibid, Page 89.
10. Ibid, Pages 128 to 136.
11. Ibid, Page 74. From the confession that humans made in the presence of Horus at the Hall of Maat -- the place of judgment for all.
12. "The Ritual: The Egyptian Book of the Dead."
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why do people constantly like to try and find ways of dening the real truth: jesus christ existed, he's the son of god and thats final! of course he existed what possible evidence could u have that says he didnt?
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@ LIL NITA

The evidencehas been provided for you, maybe you should READ it and RESEARCH it before you makeSTUPID comments like;

why do people constantly like to try and find ways of dening the real truth: jesus christ existed, he's the son of god and thats final! of course he existed what possible evidence could u have that says he didnt? blkwonder


If that's the basis of your argument , he existed and that's final....you will allways be ASLEEP.

@IFASEHUN- thanks for the RIGHT knowledge.

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I know well of the Horus and Osiris myths in Ancient Egypt religion. Infact there are a lot of similarities, but could it be possible that the Ancient egyptians adopted that from the hebrew belief?

I'm a christian myself so of course my religion will have a influence on my opinion banana.gif
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I have studied and read about a lot of religions but I have none. I do believe in Yahweh the father and Yahshua his son, but like Joy said could not the Egyptians have gotten there beliefs from the Hebrews? Were not there Hebrews first, and did Mitzriam come after?

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Indisputable Hard is evidence is there to support the fact that Jesus existed. Didnt you watch "son of God" on the BBC or Discovery Channel? They also have computer models of whatJews of the time looked like. They were dark skinned.
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I know well of the Horus and Osiris myths in Ancient Egypt religion. Infact there are a lot of similarities, but could it be possible that the Ancient egyptians adopted that from the hebrew belief?

I'm a christian myself so of course my religion will have a influence on my opinion banana.gif
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No, Egyptian beliefs predate Hebrew beliefs by 1000's of years.


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It's funny to me how both Africans and Asians WHO LIVE OVERTHERE have no problem believing that the man we know as Jesus not only existed but performed the miracles and preached the messages attributed to him for nearly 2000 years.

No one from the East questions the existance of Jesus.


Only in the West do you find people arrogant enough to declare there is no God and everything prior to 1965 isnothing but a collection of myths and legends.



Hebrews, Jews, Romans, Syrians, Perians, Egyptians, Somalis, Ethiopian, Indian, Greeks, Lybians, and many other peoples have acknolwedge the existance of the man known as Jesus.

Were all these people mislead?


confused3I guess the Ethiopian Axumite kingdom...one of Africa's greatest...was built upon a lie.


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So where do we go from here!

All of that information was right on piont,But you left us hanging?

Who is are God?


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@blackneckI think they are trying to say that the sun God Ra[img]http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=egyptian+ra/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=1349gqf1p/EXP=1128778577/*http%3A//www.dreamstone.com.au/artists/JohnPhilipWagner/websml/Ra_Harakete%20copy.jpg[/img]






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There are sun Gods all over the world hence:

[align=left]There were in Egypt, Osiris, Horus, Serapis, Hermes or Taht (Thoth), Khunsu, Atum (Aten, Adon, the Adonis or Phrygia), Iusa, Iu-sa, Iu-em-hetep; in Syria, Atis, Sabazius, Zagreus, Kybele (feminine); in Assyria Tammuz; in Babylonia, Marduk and Sargon; in Persia, Mithra, Ahura-Mazda and the Zoroasters; in Greece, Orpheus, Bacchus (Dionysus), Achilles, Hercules, Theseus, Perseus, Jason, Prometheus; in India, Vyasa, Krishna, Buddha; in Tibet the Boddhisattvas; besides many others elsewhere. [/align]
[align=left]God of Moses said "There shall be no other God before me I am the aplha and the omega".[/align]
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