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11-01-06, 10:30 PM
No, but really, it is the wordsin a syndicated radio show called "Janet Parshall's America." The comment was made by a guest Mychal Massie who runs the conservative website WorldNetDaily.com. Parts of his speech are as follows:
...it is the fault of the black church and the black community because the preachers have succumbed to hatred; they have succumbed to a disobedience to God....
...The black people today who curse America are cursing God because if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to the Muslims, who sold them to the Europeans, we would not have what we have today.
You can listen to it here:
[media=320,256]http://clips.mediamatters.org/static/audio/parshall-200510200003.mp3[/media]
Share your thoughts about the whole thing...
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12-01-06, 01:40 AM
I was about to say Thoth B3, I thought those where your words. Although I am definitly not a christian, I can not only blame the black church for the plot of black america because their just pawns and "Mychal Massie" sounds like a typical conservative. Yes blacks have made financial and educational progress since slavery but when you look at the majority of blacks state of mind, we areas ignorant and self hating as ever so what have we really gained? What have we lost in the process?
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12-01-06, 01:47 AM
I too partly blame the Black church, but what irritates me even more is how he stated that God brought us here. I can easily see our ignorant, barely literate, preachers catching on to this to justify their blind adoption of Christianity. I have even heard some Blacks say this in the past, and it deeply bothers me because it appears that the African mind in some respects is no further excelled from White control than 200 years ago.
I feel so many different emotions about it, it is just plain frustrating...especially when I have to agree with a racist conservative about some of the causes of demise in the Black community.
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12-01-06, 01:56 AM
  Its too late....i will come back to this later on today....jeeez
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13-01-06, 03:38 AM
So basically we're "cursing a divine curse"? It doesn't change the purpose of that divinecurse, nor does it satisfy the means of it being lifted. I was in "passive-acceptance" modesome time ago,its this really, really constricted view of what is(now), is what was (past), and will be (future), but I'veintuitively discoveredotherwise....I'm excited about it too because it's prophecy!
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13-01-06, 01:47 PM
i have my oppinion but wil wait to see other esponses first
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13-01-06, 02:19 PM
My role as a Moderator requires me to look in on all forums. Unfortunately it does notallowme cart blanche to delete some of the sheer foolishness which I don't know why we African people would even waste time on - such as this foolishness for one.
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13-01-06, 03:18 PM
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My role as a Moderator requires me to look in on all forums. Unfortunately it does notallowme cart blanche to delete some of the sheer foolishness which I don't know why we African people would even waste time on - such as this foolishness for one.
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I don't think it is a waste of time (hence why I posted it), because I honestly see some Black people that do spew the same foolishness. They will say that slavery was good for us because we found Jesus,God cursed usfor being "heathens inAfrica worshipping false gods," or my personal favorite is "it was God's plan to redeem the African from his wickedness." Perhaps the UK doesn't have such brainwashed Black people, but here in the States it seems that if you can link anything to God, Allah,or Jesus, you will have a group of ignorant Blacks to follow. That's why I think it is important to discuss here.
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13-01-06, 03:30 PM
@ Thoth B3
I hear you but I still maintain my position which is based on my belief that there are some mindsets which latch on to such outlandish beliefs that 'reason', 'logic'or 'fact'has not the slightest chance of shifting. So hence I say, why waste the time?
I would be no more inclined to debate with someone who extols the views quoted in your opening post than I would be to debate with a hillbillie who believes there is absolutely nothing wrong in wanting to marry his goat.
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13-01-06, 04:50 PM
Thoth B3 wrote:
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I too partly blame the Black church, but what irritates me even more is how he stated that God brought us here. I can easily see our ignorant, barely literate, preachers catching on to this to justify their blind adoption of Christianity. I have even heard some Blacks say this in the past, and it deeply bothers me because it appears that the African mind in some respects is no further excelled from White control than 200 years ago.
I feel so many different emotions about it, it is just plain frustrating...especially when I have to agree with a racist conservative about some of the causes of demise in the Black community.
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I feel like you because I kinda agree with some things he said. I believed that we were punished for our disobedience. Punished not cursed. Yes they tried to program us but it didn't work, or didn't work on some of us. You say that Christianity was a brain washing tactic but there is no excuse for that today. We have all the tools we need to overcome that.We are in our situation today because of the mindset of our own people. The foot on the neck of our people today is a black foot. Yes we might have been programmed to fail but we can be reprogrammed. Christianity and Islam alike put us at the bottom of the totem pole looking up when we should be greater than or at least epual.
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13-01-06, 05:42 PM
@ Toth B3
I am not sure what you mean by the 'Black Church' but I would say this: A study of the history of the white man's rampagesin Africa, from the timehe first went there (toward the end of the 15th century), throughouthis many bloody battles with Africans inhis attempts to take control - right up to the taking of the first slaves - will show that theindoctrination of Africans in those early centuries with white man's 'religion' (in fact any religion that was not our original African Spirituality) played a big part in our demise.
So whilst I dismiss the cr*p comments by Massie it is a fact that we Africans need to take a look at the 'ideologies' we have allowed to turn our minds into putty andseriously start giving consideration to the fact that 'to rise again' we have to look to the spiritual practices of our great ancestors. And please no one come talking about voodoo and idol worship and stuff. True African Spirituality is not about that stuff, that talk is all part of the propaganda to keep us from looking into what it was we really had before we allowed our heads to be turned.
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