Christians, Muslims, & Jews ALL Exalt the Egyptian/Kemetic God... - Page 2

safetyblitz · (#26 (**permalink**))

Sorry man these cats (not literally) all still look closer related to Anwar Sadat than they do to Mugabe or any other Sub African leader. I just don't think that Northern Africa is not fully and do not consider themselves and never have and probably never will allied and part of the rest of the continent of africa. To me they see themselves as being higher always in history and mostly in the future as well.

This we will just have to respectfully disagree on as we are at a stalemate niceone.gif

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#27 (**permalink**))

I must say that some of you here are getting WAY off topic here. Instead of arguing against the original premise of this thread, it seems you seek to discredit Egypt all together in its connectedness to African spirituality. If you want to argue what came first or where, then you reallyshould take it to another thread.

Even if the ancient Egyptians were not Black, it wouldn't change that it was the foundation of Africa, like Greece and Rome was to Europe. However, it should make us even more adamant since we have the mummies to prove that they were in fact Black people.

If you are not addressing these major premises, then it must be because you cannot...and that is fine, but let's refrain fromtrivializing the subject.

Considering all the physic evidence, I am only arguing that the popular religions recieved the pillars of their knowledge from Egypt. No one is saying it was the originator or that Egypt had no beginning backwards in time ad infinitum. We do know that the Nile Valleywas certainly the foundation of most African civilizations. That should be enough to look at this foundation and use it as a reference to judge all foreign ideologies, whether religious, political, or otherwise. The ideologies of subject here are Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

Peacemaker · (#28 (**permalink**))

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I must say that some of you here are getting WAY off topic here. Instead of arguing against the original premise of this thread, it seems you seek to discredit Egypt all together in its connectedness to African spirituality. If you want to argue what came first or where, then you reallyshould take it to another thread.

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Oh really.

Even if the ancient Egyptians were not Black, it wouldn't change that it was the foundation of Africa, like Greece and Rome was to Europe. However, it should make us even more adamant since we have the mummies to prove that they were in fact Black people.

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I know they were black. I've made that pretty clear. LikeI said do you like being blind?the website linkI posted for example made that pretty clear. Hey choose to ignore it if it suits your point.

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If you are not addressing these major premises, then it must be because you cannot...and that is fine, but let's refrain fromtrivializing the subject.

Major eh? Ah yes the spirituality. You seem to take this personally? Do you have Egyptian blood? The chances are you originate from WEST Africa.

Considering all the physic evidence, I am only arguing that the popular religions recieved the pillars of their knowledge from Egypt. No one is saying it was the originator or that Egypt had no beginning backwards in time ad infinitum. We do know that the Nile Valleywas certainly the foundation of most African civilizations. That should be enough to look at this foundation and use it as a reference to judge all foreign ideologies, whether religious, political, or otherwise. The ideologies of subject here are Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

Ah yes the physical evidence discovered by Europeans right, and then presented to the world by Europeans right. Good to trust that right?

Most black people in the west don't even know where they came from but you're happy to assume ALL african civilization springs from Egypt, because that's what the Europeans say. Big buidings can do that to peopleI suppose.

Oh well nevermind. It has no relevance to anything anyway.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#29 (**permalink**))

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I know they were black. I've made that pretty clear. LikeI said do you like being blind?the website linkI posted for example made that pretty clear. Hey choose to ignore it if it suits your point.

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I already looked at the website, which has no new information (to me). I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

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Peacemaker wrote: Major eh? Ah yes the spirituality. You seem to take this personally? Do you have Egyptian blood? The chances are you originate from WEST Africa.

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I am not taking anything personally. I am only responding to the posts; given I was the one who started the thread. You, the one who doesn't care about the Bible, is the one going to great lengths to discredit Egyptian spirituality in general instead of addressing why,contrary toall the physical evidence, that the foundations of Abrahamic religions did not borrow from Egypt.

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Oh yeah, just so that you know, all Africans East, West, Central, and South, potentially have Egyptian blood because the Egyptians migrated en masse during the European/Asiatic incursions of Egypt. Questioning whether an African has Egyptian blood isas trivial as asking a European if they have Greek or Roman blood in them...it is plain silly. This is the reason why many languages, religious practices, and so forth are almost identical throughout Africa with ancient Egypt. This is referenced in Exiled Egyptians: The Heart of Africaby Moustafa Gadalla (a native Egyptian), as well as in African Origin of Civilization by Cheikh Anta Diop (Senegalese). You will also find in Diop's work that West Africans have the same blood as those living in Egypt that mixed with the population, where regular Arabs outsideof Egypt (as well as Whites) do not.

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Ah yes the physical evidence discovered by Europeans right, and then presented to the world by Europeans right. Good to trust that right?

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I just gave you 2 non-European sources. And so what ifsome evidence was discovered by Europeans?..how does that change anything? There are Africananthropologists to very information. Again, you are trying to trivialize the subject. You obviously have nothing constructive to add to a discussion on how the foundations of Abrahamic religions were borrowed from Egypt.

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Most black people in the west don't even know where they came from but you're happy to assume ALL african civilization springs from Egypt, because that's what the Europeans say. Big buidings can do that to peopleI suppose.

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Again, Egypt was to Africa, what Greece and Rome was to Europe. Of course Africa had its own civilization and character before and outside of Egypt, just as Europe did. However, the reason for Africa's spirituality (excluding Islam or Christianity) is due to the amalgamation of Egyptian culture with the rest of the continent...again justlike the Roman empire with Europe.

--Thoth B3

Peacemaker · (#30 (**permalink**))

Thoth B3 wrote: Tings.

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Do not worry though 3000 years down the line people around then will be talking about the American and British empires in the same fashion.

One more thing. Thoth wasn't originally from Egypt, though he pretty much created it. And yes HIS spirituality was on the money. However as with all things "teachings" get corrupted down the line and Thoth's certainly did.. TheJesus of the bible is actually based on Thoth too, and the lord god probably was as well, since his words are written in the same fashion as Thoth's.

Kind of like this.

"Knowledge is regarded by the fool as ignorance,
and the things that are profitable are to him hurtful.
He liveth in death.
It is therefore his food."

To be blunt about it,to say Thoth's teachings helped form the Bible is damn right insulting to Thoth. He was right, the vastmajority of Egyptians that followed after him were not.What was put in the three big religions, and Buddhism for that matter are truths that drowning in a sea of perversions. Few they be who pick them out correctly.

A prophecy of Thoth's.

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"Aye, in the land thou callest Khem,
races shall rise and races shall fall.
Forgotten shalt thou be of the children of men.
Yet thou shalt have moved to a star-space
beyond this leaving behind this place where thou has dwelt."

"The Soul of man moves ever onward,
bound not by any one star.
But ever moving to the great goal before him
where he is dissolved in the Light of the All.
Know ye that ye shall ever go onward,
moved by the Law of cause and effect
until in the end both become One"

"Aye, man, after ye have gone,
others shall move in the places ye lived.
Knowledge and wisdom shall all be forgotten,
and only a memory of Gods shall survive.
As I to thee am a God by my knowledge,
so ye, too shall be Gods of the future
because of your knowledge far above theirs.
Yet know ye that all through the ages,
man shall have access to Law when he will."

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Omoshango · (#31 (**permalink**))

Peacemaker wrote:Do you have Egyptian blood? The chances are you originate from WEST Africa.

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Oh yeah, just so that you know, all Africans East, West, Central, and South, potentially have Egyptian blood because the Egyptians migrated en masse during the European/Asiatic incursions of Egypt. Questioning whether an African has Egyptian blood isas trivial as asking a European if they have Greek or Roman blood in them...it is plain silly. This is the reason why many languages, religious practices, and so forth are almost identical throughout Africa with ancient Egypt. This is referenced in Exiled Egyptians: The Heart of Africaby Moustafa Gadalla (a native Egyptian), as well as in African Origin of Civilization by Cheikh Anta Diop (Senegalese). You will also find in Diop's work that West Africans have the same blood as those living in Egypt that mixed with the population, where regular Arabs outsideof Egypt (as well as Whites) do not.

Had to add that West Africans KNOWwe are ancestrally connected to Egypt, for our oralhistories trace ourorigins there, independently ofany "Egyptologists," European or African.

The Yoruba, The Hausa, Fulani, Mandinka, Vai, and on and on, will all tell you that they migrated westward from the Nile valley. And evidence abounds in language and cultural practices, etc.

Read The Cultural Unity Of Black Africa, by Chiekh Anta Diop, and The Myth Of The Negro Past, by Melville J. Herskovits.

More on topic, the Christian scriptures, (The Torah is less contaminated than Al Injeel, the "New Testament")being largely metaphorical, can only really be understood bya knowledge of ancient Nile Valley cosmology.

The Creation scenario in Genesis, for instance, or the Resurrection scriptures are taken literally but they have deeper meanings that are only revealed through an understanding of Egyptian metaphysics.

BTW, did u know that the word "thought", (mental processing of ideas and images) derives from "Thoth," the aspect of Ra (or the "God") governing the intellect?

Or that he is the same deity the Yoruba call Obatala?

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#32 (**permalink**))

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To be blunt about it,to say Thoth's teachings helped form the Bible is damn right insulting to Thoth. He was right, the vastmajority of Egyptians that followed after him were not.What was put in the three big religions, and Buddhism for that matter are truths that drowning a sea of perversions. Few they be would pick them out correctly.

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Your point is well taken. All knowledge is perverted as it is passed on. I wouldn't say that Egyptian spirituality created these religions at all. This is why I stressed thatthey borrowed what they wanted from Egypt, even thoughEgyptby no means had a pure spirituality.

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One of my main reasons for stressing the foundations of Egypt isthat I seeit as a means of shattering most of the superificialreligious divisions between Africans on the continent and throughout the Diaspora. So I do not intend to glorify Egypt for being some epitome of spirituality, but using the knowledge there of as an instrument, hopefully, to break thereligious chains on the minds of our people.

safetyblitz · (#33 (**permalink**))

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I must say that some of you here are getting WAY off topic here. Instead of arguing against the original premise of this thread, it seems you seek to discredit Egypt all together in its connectedness to African spirituality. If you want to argue what came first or where, then you reallyshould take it to another thread.

Even if the ancient Egyptians were not Black, it wouldn't change that it was the foundation of Africa, like Greece and Rome was to Europe. However, it should make us even more adamant since we have the mummies to prove that they were in fact Black people.

If you are not addressing these major premises, then it must be because you cannot...and that is fine, but let's refrain fromtrivializing the subject.

Considering all the physic evidence, I am only arguing that the popular religions recieved the pillars of their knowledge from Egypt. No one is saying it was the originator or that Egypt had no beginning backwards in time ad infinitum. We do know that the Nile Valleywas certainly the foundation of most African civilizations. That should be enough to look at this foundation and use it as a reference to judge all foreign ideologies, whether religious, political, or otherwise. The ideologies of subject here are Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

Actually not because all you basically said is that we are still worshipping in the way of our ancestors only modified through different sects.
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I just added I don't think Egyptians are of us or we of them through my own personal view of them, their behavior toward the darker Africans and their relations with the Middle East for the past 5,000 years.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#34 (**permalink**))

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I just added I don't think Egyptians are of us or we of them through my own personal view of them, their behavior toward the darker Africans and their relations with the Middle East for the past 5,000 years.

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Are you unaware of Egypt's relations with Africa before it was invaded by Arabs?..it was virtually one with Ethiopia until the very last of its Pharaohs.

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