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First and foremost, the three popular religions of Christianity, Islam and Judaism to this very day end their prayers saying "Amen." Amen was the Kemetic neterw meaning "hidden one." It seems that there is a hidden truth that these religions are second-hand dogmas to African spirituality. If I were a really religious person, I could say that Godmade sure that these religions call on Amen's name to give a clue to future generations not to be duped by these un-African religions. Coincidence?...consider this...
This all started when the Hebrews were in Egypt during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten, where he imposed his god, the Aten, on Egypt. "Aten" when transliterated to Hebrew becomes "Adon." In the bible, "Adonai" is used to say "my LORD" (in all capitals), where the "ai" onlydenotes ownership in Hebrew.We can see that Adon, which is the Egyptian Aten, is what the Hebrews called God. The reason LORD is in all capitals is because it replacesthe Hebrew tetragrammaton (YHWH), where they were not supposed to pronounce God's name, therefore said Adonai. You can check out how many times the Hebrews called on the Kemetic God by searching any verse you like here: http://www.biblegateway.com/
One example is in Psalm's 110 (NASB)
[suP]1[/suP]The LORD says to my Lord:"Sit at My right handUntil I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet."
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[suP]4[/suP]The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind,"You are a priest foreverAccording to the order of Melchizedek." [suP]5[/suP][/suP]The Lord is at Your right hand; He will shatter kings in the day of His wrath...
If you find the mention of "Lord" (with only the first letter capitalized), then it could be E lohim, some other Hebrew word to denote God, or actually lord in terms of a master.However,when it is "LORD" (in all capitals) then the Hebrew says "Adonai" or "Adon"calling on the Aten of Kemet.
Is it just a coincidence that:
-All throughout the Bible it calls on the Kemetic God?
-Christians, Muslims, and Jews all end their prayers exalting the Kemetic neterw, Amen?
-Considering Christians and Muslims have tried stealing the Hebrew legacy in their own books, that they too should be deemed second-hand dogmas to African spirituality?
What say you?
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17-01-06, 08:54 PM
The author of the first five books of the Bible, spent his early days in Egypt.
Moses !!!
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17-01-06, 09:00 PM
There was a time before Egypt/Kemet.
Their beliefs came from something to,similar to how the religions of Abraham came into existence.
Who do you think gave the Egyptiansthat knowledge?
Chance, coincidence? Or the sudden appearance of ancient texts.
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17-01-06, 09:03 PM
Been arguing this for sometime now. The knowledge was from before Egypt, the knowledge runs back to one source.
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17-01-06, 09:36 PM
Actually I have known this for some time. Amen, Amun, Amon, Baal, Amun-Ra were all Gods of Mitzriam. That is why I use neither.
This all started when the Hebrews were in Egypt during the reign of Pharaoh Akhenaten, where he imposed his god, the Aten, on Egypt. "Aten" when transliterated to Hebrew becomes "Adon." In the bible, "Adon" is used to say "LORD" (in all capitals), where we can see that Adon, which is the Egyptian Aten, is what the Hebrews called God. The reason LORD is in all capitals is because it is what's called the Hebrew tetragrammaton, where they were not supposed to pronounce God's name, therefore said Adon. You can check out how many times the Hebrews called on the Kemetic God by searching any verse you like here: http://www.biblegateway.com/
First did you not say that you did not believe that the Hebrews were enslaved in Mitzraim? Say how can you use there captivity as a reference to them using or saying the words Lord meaning Aten?
And the translated Lord is not Adon it is more likely "Baal" since he was a pagan god of the Hebrews that means Master, or Adonai which was used as the proper name for Yahweh.
YHWH is the Hebrew Tetragrammaton not LORD. Where did you get you info, I would like to read it.
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17-01-06, 10:46 PM
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There was a time before Egypt/Kemet.
Their beliefs came from something to,similar to how the religions of Abraham came into existence.
Who do you think gave the Egyptiansthat knowledge?
Chance, coincidence? Or the sudden appearance of ancient texts.
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Of course Egyptianbeliefs came from somewhere.According to archaeological evidence (which can survive such long periods),the civilization that evolved into the Kemetic culture came from the south from the interior ofAfrica.Before the very first dynasty ofKemet, there was a kingdom that wore the white crown that you seemany neterw (gods) wear inMtw Ntr (hieroglyphics). Where the people of sourthern Sudan/Nubia/Punt/Ethiopia/where-ever got this, no one knows...however the trail of archaeology runs cold around Zimbabwe.
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17-01-06, 10:47 PM
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Been arguing this for sometime now. The knowledge was from before Egypt, the knowledge runs back to one source.
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I am talking about where the3 religions of subject got it from.
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17-01-06, 11:00 PM
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Actually I have known this for some time. Amen, Amun, Amon, Baal, Amun-Ra were all Gods of Mitzriam. That is why I use neither.
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"Mizraim" is only the Hebrew name for Kemet. Amen-Ra (a joint neter) was the divine aspect of the One SupremeBeing (God)of Kemet realizing the aspect ofunseen omnipotence. Understanding Kemetic spirituality conveys that it did not matter which neter one worshipped, because everything was a part of God.
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jaziasha wrote: First did you not say that you did not believe that the Hebrews were enslaved in Mitzraim? Say how can you use there captivity as a reference to them using or saying the words Lord meaning Aten?
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If you re-read my post, I never said anything about the Hebrews being enslaved in Kemet. It is obvious that they were there and had intimate contact with them; hence why so much of the Bible is copiedfrom Kemetic literature. However, there is not a shred of evidence pointing to a Hebrew enslavement, other than as prisoners of war for invading Kemet as raiders...but even that evidence is scanty for the 400 years purported in the Bible.
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jaziasha wrote: And the translated Lord is not Adon it is more likely "Baal" since he was a pagan god of the Hebrews that means Master, or Adonai which was used as the proper name for Yahweh.
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It actually is "Adon." If you can read Hebrew, then it will say "Adonai," once transliterated into English.The "ai" only denotes ownership in Hebrew...meaning "my LORD," but the object referenced as God is "Adon."
jaziasha wrote: YHWH is the Hebrew Tetragrammaton not LORD. Where did you get you info, I would like to read it.
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You are right, "YHWH" is the Hebrew tetragrammaton. Perhaps I was not clear in explaining this since I didn'tproofread my post. Everywhere you see "LORD" spelled in all capitals, like in the example I have shown in Psalms 110, that is where the Hebrew tetragrammaton is used in the original text...namely Adon or Adonai.
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17-01-06, 11:15 PM
This debate is tremendously unbalanced. Thoth has all the knowledge on his side!
Must be boring, Thoth.
Why don't the rest of ya'll simply "listen" and learn? (Just kidding)
Everyone'sPOV is valid and important. But seriously, people. Debating whether Khemet is the source of all three major world religions?
That's like debating whether the sun comes up every morning.
The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.
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17-01-06, 11:17 PM
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Of course Egyptianbeliefs came from somewhere.
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Yes. Those beliefs were distorted also. Though they carried the same "core" as the Abraham religions which are even more corrupt..
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According to archaeological evidence (which can survive such long periods),
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Yes, even different era's in somecases.(Ones we know nothing about)
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the civilization that evolved into the Kemetic culture came from the south from the interior ofAfrica.Before the very first dynasty ofKemet, there was a kingdom that wore the white crown that you seemany neterw (gods) where inMtw Ntr (hieroglyphics). Where the people of sourthern Sudan/Nubia/Punt/Ethiopia/where-ever got this, no one knows...however the trail of archaeology runs cold around Zimbabwe.
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It doesn't matter where it evolved or originated from, howeverexalting the Egyptians as the bringers of knowledge confuses things, since their (Spiritual) knowledge was mostlycorrupt too. Even now the current Egyptian's change their history. That sort of thing has been happening since time began.
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This debate is tremendously unbalanced. Thoth has all the knowledge on his side!
Must be boring, Thoth.
Why don't the rest of ya'll simply "listen" and learn? (Just kidding)
Everyone'sPOV is valid and important. But seriously, people. Debating whether Khemet is the source of all three major world religions?
That's like debating whether the sun comes up every morning.
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So true....Thoth always has the knowledge to back up all religious debate, whilst the poor people here only end up the same holly books his evidence is rebuking....pointless really. Most times i just read and learn rather than debate, but that could be because i agree with his premises...LOL
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