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Post imported post - 14-04-06, 01:03 PM

Ok as a complete ignorant..can someone please tell me without giving me a sermon if you don't mind the following..
  • where does the term 'good Friday' originate from?
  • Where did the practise of giving 'Easter' Eggs' originate and what is it supposed to mean?
  • Where did the name 'Easter' come from?


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Ok as a complete ignorant..can someone please tell me without giving me a sermon if you don't mind the following..
  • where does the term 'good Friday' originate from?
  • Where did the practise of giving 'Easter' Eggs' originate and what is it supposed to mean?
  • Where did the name 'Easter' come from?


All I can respond to is the second part of question two. If I remember correctly, the giving of an egg symbolises new life, which in turn symbolises the rising of Jesus.
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Ok as a complete ignorant..can someone please tell me without giving me a sermon if you don't mind the following..
  • where does the term 'good Friday' originate from?
  • Where did the practise of giving 'Easter' Eggs' originate and what is it supposed to mean?
  • Where did the name 'Easter' come from?


1. Good friday was supposed to be the day that the Mashiah was nailed to the tree.

2. Easter eggs are supposed to be given to represent the returning or the renewal of life at easter.

3. The Name comes from the Ishtar or Eastre both pagan goddesses. Ishtar is also mentioned in the bible.

This holiday as well as many others are pagan and his no real spiritual meaning.

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This holiday as well as many others are pagan and his no real spiritual meaning.

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This phrase has no meaning. Pagan is a religion, an old one. To say it is pagan therefore has no spirituality is dumb.
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Like a Christian saying Ramadan has no spiritual meaning...





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Post imported post - 15-04-06, 02:43 AM

Easter was apparently settled to be held on a Sunday by a Black African pope, Saint Victor I.

Been doing some reading you see. Busy bee I am.

Here's more.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter1.htm

Pay special attention to that link, that one shows where the actual day comes from.

This one below shows how it was taken over.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/easter2.htm


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"It is an historical fact that the pagan heathens living in the hills and cave sides of Europe were worshipping Easter way before there was a Jesus." (click for more)


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Post imported post - 15-04-06, 10:13 PM

The word "heathen" implies a maliscious religious bent or perspective. As opposed to simply saying it was an old celebration from an older religion that was subverted. Judgemental and taking on the worsts aspects of revisionist europeans. It's used to ascribe immorality or inferiority to that which is different, like "infidel" for example. It dehumanises another group. Very boring.


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This holiday as well as many others are pagan and his no real spiritual meaning.

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Like a Christian saying Ramadan has no spiritual meaning...

Maybe I should have worded it better, but you know what I meant. These holidays were worshipped by pagansfirst and adopted by christians later. They have no spiritual meaning to me.
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Easter is a Satanic Holiday that is not supported by the Bible.

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet JONAS:
40 For as JONAS was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Jesus Christ stated that he would be in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights. When the Bible says a day AND a night that means a full 24 hour period, because a day is 12 hours, and a night is 12 hours because ther are 24 hours in a day.

John 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day?...

So a day and a night would be a complete 24 hour period. Now the churches teach that jesus died on a friday (good friday) and rose on Sunday. This is impossible. Because he died at 3 pm. (I will post that later)

Friday 3 p.m. + 24 hours= Saturday 3pm (1 day)
Saturday 3 p.m. +24 hours = Sunday 3pm (2days)
(Total of 48 hours, NOT 72 hours)


There are only two days between good friday and Easter sunday. Jesus said he would be gone for 72 hours before he ressurected.)

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet JONAS:
40 For as JONAS was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Day+Night=24 hours. 3x24= 72

Already Easter is smashed because there are only 2 days between Friday and Sunday.

Jesus Christ actually died on a wednesday and rose on a SATURDAY.

Lets look at the gospels. Jesus Christ died at 3pm.

The sun comes up at 6 am, so that is the 1st hour of the day. 12 pm is the sixth hour of day. This is where we will pick up from.

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.
48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.
49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
(died)

9-6=3

3 hours later Jesus Christ died. This would be 3pm. Look in the zondervan Bible dictionary about the watches of the night. It will explain to you how time is kept in the bible. the 9th hour is exactly 3 pm.... i said all of that to show you this.

Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

The end of the sabbath is when the sun goes down on Saturday, it was at the time when it began to dawn on sunday. Dawn is early in the morning BEFORE 3pm. These 2 Mary's came.

Matthew 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
6 He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

Jesus ALREADY rose before sunday at 3pm!!!!!!

That means that he died on the Saturday before at 3pm. This also means he died on a Wednesday at 3pm. 72 hours later is Saturday at 3pm..... Now here is the SUPRISE!!!! This was already prophesied to happen in the old testament.

Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Messiah and Christ both mean anointed. Saying Christ is the same as saying Messiah. This is a prophecy about Jesus Christ.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut
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off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the MIDST OF THE WEEK he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease............

Sun, Mon, Tues, WED, Thurs, Fri Sat.

Wednesday is the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK!!!!!!! What what did Jesus Christ do on Wednesday that caused the Sacrifice and oblation to cease? He died and the vail of the temple that the priests performed the sacrifice in was rent in 2. This brought it to an ABRUPT STOP.

Matthew 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. (He died)
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was RENT IN TWAIN from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

The under the order of Aaron only certain priests could go back there and no one was supposed to be able to see the division between where they were and where the congregation was. Just like that it RIPPPED. They knew their priesthood was come to an end. This signified the end of th order of Aaron which dealt with accepting animal sacrifices.

This proves that Jesus died on a wednesday at 3 pm and 3 days later rose on Saturday at 3pm. When Sunday came along he already rose. That stomps easter sunday.
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Post imported post - 16-04-06, 05:55 PM

Mr Isreal....this subject has already been covered, therefore I will merge this thread with an existing one in approx 5 mins..


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it wasn't the same...but ok
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Kunjufu,

Just the other day, there was something that my 8 year year old nephew was talking aboutconcerning X-mas. Strangely, it was from this piece of Logic that made him scrap the belief of Santa Claus this is what he exactly said( I promise that nobody around told him not to believe in it.

When asked about why he no longer believe in Santa he said " How can a fat man go inside a chimney. First of all, he's not able to fit in the Chimney, Secondly, We don't have a chimney and lastly, if he was to come down a chimney, he would get burned in the fire." When asked about the flying reindeer he said " Reindeers don't fly, the graze in the pastures!Thenmy younger nephew , the seven year old came , who does believe in it tried to reason with him by saying thatmaybeSanta camerung the doorbell and came in and at the cookies anddrunk the milk( as my sister is always doing on X-mas) then he said " That moma andmom and dad eating those cookies and that he didn't hear any doorbell ring!When he said that I could help but laugh at it( Perhapsmy brother may have told him too much about logic), bu