Do you believe in Karma?????

Le Moor · (#1 (**permalink**))

Do you believe that Karma will occur within the same lifespan?

Imnot so sure.

Perhaps there are plenty who perform their evil and get away with it.

Im impatient you see, i want all the evil men to pay now whilst i can see them suffer.

CeeCee · (#2 (**permalink**))

LeMoor,

I'll level with you. I don't believe in Karma, but I belive int the following words god said he said that " You reap what you sow" " Whether you sow bad oats or good oats. He also said that vengence is his. My mother is big believer of Karma, but she just think it's about in a bad luck kind of way. I believe that if somebody wrong you or vice versa, your wrong doing will come back to you or vice versa because of what god said about it.

The thing about what god does is that he do not do them when we want him to. He does things at his time. There is not a person in the world who want to see someone pay for an act somebody committed on them. Meanwhile, I don't think that you should be " waiting" for revenge to come on these guys. I could be wrong , but you sound a little miffed at those men that wronged you. If you think like that, those guys are already winning the battle against you without you knowing it. If possible, just try to move forward and forget about them.God will take care of them.

Le Moor · (#3 (**permalink**))

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LeMoor,

I'll level with you. I don't believe in Karma, but I belive int the following words god said he said that " You reap what you sow" " Whether you sow bad oats or good oats.

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Isnt that what Karma is 'reaping what you sow'?

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The thing about what god does is that he do not do them when we want him to. He does things at his time. There is not a person in the world who want to see someone pay for an act somebody committed on them. Meanwhile, I don't think that you should be " waiting" for revenge to come on these guys. I could be wrong , but you sound a little miffed at those men that wronged you. If you think like that, those guys are already winning the battle against you without you knowing it. If possible, just try to move forward and forget about them.God will take care of them.

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Of course you're right Cee Cee, but in the reality sometimes the evil can be constant, systematic even. Therefore almost impossible to move forward. May not be able to respond effectively either withoutbreaking the law by seriously harming someone.

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Jay Jay · (#4 (**permalink**))

I don't believe in karma because it just is.

The biggest trap people fall into is to think any action or reaction will come as some soft of major sign like a shazam! or a pow! "we have instant karma"

Whereby I personally think it's very subtle and can occur at anytime, maybe subtle enough that most wont pay attention to it or even fob it of as coincendence.

It will come as an everyday real world occurance, but wanting karma to come about on those who are evil whilst you are waiting to see them suffer for their wrongs could put you in bad karma, because you are creating negativity which in turn breeds negativity.

an example: in the middle-east they want the west to hurt and die so much, in reality it is they themselves that are dying more by their own hands. Could this be mass negativity? this is just an example as it's easier to show something bad than something good.

Peacemaker · (#5 (**permalink**))

Le Moor wrote:

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Do you believe that Karma will occur within the same lifespan?

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Karma is a corruption of the original teaching of cause and effect/You reap what you sow/

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Ye judge your self, etc, etc.

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The fact is what you call Karma is much more broader and harsher than you like to believe. It's constantly working and it's literally all around you, it's even drawn out of you. In fact it's the creative force of this universe, it's nether random, nor happens by chance. People can either work with it or be it's slave in ignorance....in the latter case it willappear to berandom, and appear to happen by chance or coincidence.

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If someone dies a slow and painful death, then they deserve it. What may appear to bebad here will not be so in the bigger picture. It balances them out. If you don't understand what the cause truelyis then you're not in a position to judge what good and bad is in the first place. To the uneducated in this fieldthey would seem like random actions of ignorant and evil humans. When in truth it's fate playing out in front of your and theireyes. Fate which most ofall human create unwittingly for themselves. However it can be negated, it's just a question of a change of attitude and desire so you won't attractwhat you don't like to you in the first place.

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Don't like that explanation? You're not supposed too, understanding it will be of benefit.

In fact it's much more broader than I've let on, and rarely understood by even those who can see it taking shape.

Imnot so sure.

Perhaps there are plenty who perform their evil and get away with it.

What makes you think that people who have hadevil done to them don't deserve it in the first place? Ultimately no one gets away with anything in the long run. It's not about reward and punishment,people however havea interesting view of justice.

Im impatient you see, i want all the evil men to pay now whilst i can see them suffer.

That might work out with you suffering with them, works like that too.. I wouldn't wish that ifI were you. Since cause and effect tends to work througheach individual desire of a person. And like does attract like. You won't be watching them suffer from the outside I can tell you that.

This creation works together with your desires to create what you want in life. Getting killed in a horrible way or being attacked might just play a role in that. It's been said time and time again. "Becareful what you wish for". Fortunely it manifests(Don't beconfused with this word, it's not meant to be literal)in life in line with the strength of your desire and emotions. If you're lucky you might have a nightmare about it. Thingsdon't have to beset in stone afterall...apart from the time of your birth and time of death that is.

Le Moor · (#6 (**permalink**))

Peacemaker wrote:

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Le Moor wrote:
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Do you believe that Karma will occur within the same lifespan?

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Karma is a corruption of the original teaching of cause and effect/You reap what you sow/

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Ye judge your self, etc, etc.

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The fact is what you call Karma is much more broader and harsher than you like to believe. It's constantly working and it's literally all around you, it's even drawn out of you. In fact it's the creative force of this universe, it's nether random, nor happens by chance. People can either work with it or be it's slave in ignorance....in the latter case it willappear to berandom, and appear to happen by chance or coincidence.

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If someone dies a slow and painful death, then they deserve it. What may appear to bebad here will not be so in the bigger picture. It balances them out. If you don't understand what the cause truelyis then you're not in a position to judge what good and bad is in the first place. To the uneducated in this fieldthey would seem like random actions of ignorant and evil humans. When in truth it's fate playing out in front of your and theireyes. Fate which most ofall human create unwittingly for themselves. However it can be negated, it's just a question of a change of attitude and desire so you won't attractwhat you don't like to you in the first place.

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Don't like that explanation? You're not supposed too, understanding it will be of benefit.

In fact it's much more broader than I've let on, and rarely understood by even those who can see it taking shape.

Imnot so sure.

Perhaps there are plenty who perform their evil and get away with it.

What makes you think that people who have hadevil done to them don't deserve it in the first place? Ultimately no one gets away with anything in the long run. It's not about reward and punishment,people however havea interesting view of justice.

Im impatient you see, i want all the evil men to pay now whilst i can see them suffer.

That might work out with you suffering with them, works like that too.. I wouldn't wish that ifI were you. Since cause and effect tends to work througheach individual desire of a person. And like does attract like. You won't be watching them suffer from the outside I can tell you that.

This creation works together with your desires to create what you want in life. Getting killed in a horrible way or being attacked might just play a role in that. It's been said time and time again. "Becareful what you wish for". Fortunely it manifests(Don't beconfused with this word, it's not meant to be literal)in life in line with the strength of your desire and emotions. If you're lucky you might have a nightmare about it. Thingsdon't have to beset in stone afterall...apart from the time of your birth and time of death that is.

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You've not be hangin wid Glen Hoddle by any chance have you?

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Seriously Peace you need to clarify whether your theory means one can be punished from another life, then it could possibly make sense. As it stands in its entirety i cant agree.

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There are plenty of sufferers who dont deserve the evil bestowed upon them.

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Mostly evil is just plain evil. Meaning there's no rhyme nor reason for it.

Soulstarr · (#7 (**permalink**))

I'm a great believer in karma. I don't pretend to completely comprehend the logistices behind it but I've seen too many people "fall from grace" to not believe in it. I completely agree with peacemakers comments.

@Le Moore, indeed there are plent of people suffering evil when they dont deserve it but isn't that an entirely seperate issue from karma itself?

Le Moor · (#8 (**permalink**))

Soulstarr wrote:

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I'm a great believer in karma. I don't pretend to completely comprehend the logistices behind it but I've seen too many people "fall from grace" to not believe in it. I completely agree with peacemakers comments.

@Le Moore, indeed there are plent of people suffering evil when they dont deserve it but isn't that an entirely seperate issue from karma itself?

From the responses here I dont know now, as i alwaysthought Karma meant what you reap is from what you sow. What does it mean?

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Soulstarr · (#9 (**permalink**))

Le Moor wrote:

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Soulstarr wrote:

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I'm a great believer in karma. I don't pretend to completely comprehend the logistices behind it but I've seen too many people "fall from grace" to not believe in it. I completely agree with peacemakers comments.

@Le Moore, indeed there are plent of people suffering evil when they dont deserve it but isn't that an entirely seperate issue from karma itself?

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From the responses here I dont know now, as i alwaysthought Karma meant what you reap is from what you sow. What does it mean?

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Thats what I thought. But what I mean is that the fact that karma exists, unfortunately doesn't stop evil from happening. In anycase, I could be wrong. Its just that in my personal experience of people that i know, I've witnessed the hardships that they are going through now and 99.9% of the time, i recal when they've screwed somebody over in the past and thats what i always thought karma/reaping what you sow was.

Le Moor · (#10 (**permalink**))

Well in that case then my thoughts are as follows:

Peace has said if someone is sufferring they deserve it, hence they are recieving their Karma.

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I think unless he believes this has transpired from another life, then its inaccurate, as plenty suffer without justification. I would also hazard a good guess that plenty get away with it and live long lives without paying anywhere near the price they should.

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