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origin of Christianity...

rather simple...

the story of Jesus, in the New TESTAMENT WAS WRTTEN UNDER/IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE WHICH WAS "CHOCK-FULL" of stories of other "saviour gods".

such as the "virgin" Isis and her son Hours.

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Date: Fri Dec 5, 2003 5:46 pm
Subject: most follwrs of "religion" be it Islam, Christianity, have nt done any research.

By Minister Ahmed K. El-Shabazz







Serapis







I HAVE SHOWN...


2. THE RELIGION OF SERAPIS WAS WIDESPREAD IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

NOW, LET'S VIEW STATUES OF SERAPIS, SHALL WE?...















INSHA ALLAH MORE, LATER







the Christian "Latin cross"...



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'... The symbol of Serapeum "religion" was the
same as today's Christians, THE CROSS!..."




...In the worship of Serapis (a composite of Osiris and Apis) the cross was a religious symbol. Indeed, the Christian "Latin cross" symbol seems to be based directly on the cross symbol of Osiris and Serapis. The Romans never used this traditional Christian cross for crucifixions, they used crosses shaped either like an X or a T. The hieroglyph of a cross on a hill was associated with Osiris...
http://www.jdstone.org/truth/files/j_myth.html




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Serapis may have finally had certain ties with the early Christian community. There were certainly some similarities between Serapis and the Hebrew God. Serapis was a supreme god, and it seems that some early worshippers of Christ amongst the Gentiles could have possibly worshipped Serapis






A correspondence of Emperor Hadrian refers to Alexandrian worshippers of Serapis calling themselves ‘Bishops of Christ’:

'Egypt, which you commended to me, my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent, and continually wafted about by every breath of fame. The worshipers of Serapis (here) are called Christians, and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find), call themselves Bishops of Christ.'–Hadrian to Servianus, 134A.D. (Quoted by Giles, ii p86)


On the other hand, some have pointed out that Chrestus (Christus) was another name for the Egyptian god, Serapis. Chrestus may be translated as "Messiah", though the term need not apply to any specific Messiah, such as Jesus.




The Greeks create a God: Serapis

The first Greek pharaoh wanted a single, composite god to bring together his diverse subjects. In a 'classic' example of the process of syncretism, the character and characteristics of several earlier gods were rolled into one, the god Serapis.

In the 3rd century BC, the worship of Serapis became a State sponsored cult throughout Egypt. With the Roman conquest, the cult spread throughout the Empire.



Ptolemy I had established a new universal cult of Serapis and built the Serapeum in Alexandria to be its centre of worship.



It was from this Alexandria centre that Christianity reached Rome, as well as many other parts of the Roman Empire.



How did Christianity reach Rome at that very early date?

It was from this Alexandria centre that Christianity reached Rome, as well as many other parts of the Roman Empire.





Only two routes could have been possible for Christianity to get there: from Judaea with Jewish slaves and immigrants; or from Egypt with the Roman soldiers coming home, or with arriving Egyptian mystery cults. As no evidence exists for Christianity coming to Rome from Jerusalem or Antioch, the only possible route was from Alexandria in the same way as it reached Corinth through Apollos of Alexandria. The Mysteries of Isis and Serapis came to Rome even before 100 BC, and a temple for Isis and Serapis was established on the Campus Martius, not far from the famous Pantheon.



Like Christ, he healed the sick and had the ability to appear to mortals in their sleep. The priesthood attached to his temples was made up of Egyptians or Graeco-Egyptians, many of whom were of Alexandrian origin, or educated there.

It is a well-known fact that the early worshippers of Christ amongst the Gentiles were also worshippers of Serapis, and it is easy to see how Christianity reached Rome at this early date. This is confirmed by the fact that in AD 19 Tiberius expelled both Jews and devotees of Serapis from Rome. Christianity, like the worship of Serapis, was regarded by the Romans as yet another mystery cult.No doubt the cult of Isis and Serapis was the most popular religion in Rome during the first half of the 1st century AD, when Christianity is first attested in the capital. The fact that the new faith came to Rome via Alexandria did not help to bring the two Churches closer;











CHRISTIAN ROOTS IN THE ALEXANDRIAN CULT OF SERAPIS



which resulted in the emergence of the cult of Serapis, whose followers could obtain the right to eternal life without the need for mummification if they confessed in the deity and went through an initiation ritual.

It was Ptolemy I Soter (304-284 BC), who introduced Serapis



Ptolemy built a temple for Serapis in Alexandria, where he placed a statue for the god: a man with curly hair, benign _expression, and a long beard, in the same style used later for the representations of Christ in Coptic churches.



that Egyptian baptism should be seen as analogous to Christian baptism, of which he commented: "In both cases a symbolic cleansing by means of water serves as initiation into a properly legitimated religious life." The cults of Serapis and Isis did not merely survive the emergence of Christianity, but in the 2nd century AD actually increased in popularity.

Serapis and Christ existed side-by-side and were frequently seen as interchangeable. Some early Christians made no distinction between Christ and Serapis and frequently worshipped both, while paintings of Isis with her son Horus became identified by early Christians as portraits of Mary with her son Jesus. The rite of baptism, part of the initiation ceremony of the Serapis cult, was also adopted by the Church as part of its initiation ceremony.

In AD 134, after a visit to Alexandria, the Emperor Hadrian wrote a letter to his elderly brother-in-law, Servianus, in which he commented: "So you praise Egypt, my very dear Servianus! I know the land from top to bottom . . . In it the worshippers of Serapis are Christians, and those who call themselves Bishops of Christ pay their vows to Serapis . . . Whenever the patriarch himself comes to Egypt he is made to worship Serapis by some and Christ by others."











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Truth shall set you free....

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KRISHNA, WHOSE STORY OF CRUCUFITION WAS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLDER THAN JESUS'S.

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GREEK GOD "ORPHEUS", BEFORE JESUS

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Blood sacrifice is the oldest and most universal act of piety. The offering of animals, including the human animal, dates back at least twenty thousand years, and, depending on how you read the scanty archaeological evidence, arguably back to the earliest appearance of humanity. Many religions recount the creation of man through the bloody sacrifice of a God-man--a divinity who is torn apart to sow the seeds of humanity.

Patrick Tierney, The Highest Altar: The Story of Human Sacrifice


The orthodox depiction of Krishna's death relates that he was shot in the foot by a hunter's arrow while under a tree. As is true with so much in mythology, and as we have seen abundantly, there are variances in Krishna's tale, including the account of his death. In The Bible in India, citing as his sources the Bagaveda-Gita and Brahminical traditions, French scholar and Indianist Jacolliot recounts the death of Christna as presciently understood by the godman, who, without his disciples, went to the Ganges to work out stains. After thrice plunging into the sacred river, Krishna knelt and prayed as he awaited death, which was ultimately caused by multiple arrows shot by a criminal whose offenses had been exposed by Krishna. The executioner, named Angada, was thereafter condemned to wander the banks of the Ganges for eternity, subsisting off the dead. Jacolliot proceeds to describe Krishna's death thus:

The body of the God-man was suspended to the branches of a tree by his murderer, that it might become the prey of the vultures.

News of the death having spread, the people came in a crowd conducted by Ardjouna, the dearest disciple of Christna, to recover his sacred remains. But the mortal frame of the Redeemer had disappeared--no doubt it had regained the celestial abodes and the tree to which it had been attached had become suddenly covered with great red flowers and diffused around it the sweetest perfumes.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/kcrucified.htm
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There is no "mystery" god, YOU are the god!

"Would you sit at home and wait for, a "mystery" god to, bring you food, clothing and shelter?
EMPHATICALLY NO!"
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So the purpose of this thread is to what declare ourselves like AKHENATEN make ourselves God while we determine the one that others should worship? Then after we die people abolish what we did and go back to their ways before we decided to impose our will on them? Or just another attack on Christians? LOL

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the origin of Christanity...


the origin of Christanity...


ROOTED IN MYTHOLOGY



History tells us that the Christianity of today did not begin with a
man known by most as Jesus. Christianity's origins are the BELIEF
systems found in ancient Egypt and India. Mr. Godfrey Higgins
stated: "The worship of the Virgin and the Child which we find in all
Romish countries was nothing more than a remnant of the worship of
Isis and the God, Horus." (Anacalypsis, Volume 1, page 316) Who were
Isis and Horus? Isis was, according to Kemet (Egyptian) religion was
a goddess, who was married to Osiris, a god, who was killed by his
evil brother Seth. Seth chopped the body of Osiris into 14 parts and
scattered the body parts all over Egypt. When Isis heard what
happened she searched all of Egypt for her husband's parts, which she
found, all except the phallus, which she made out of gold. Isis who
had the power of the "word" spoke the "word" which brought Osiris to
life long enough to make Isis pregnant. Isis (the Virgin) gave birth
to a Son, the Son of Osiris (God), "Horus", who avenged the murder of
his father.

In the mythology of India we find the God Krishna, which means "the
black one". This is where the word "Christ" comes from. In the book
Christ and Krishna written in 1898, Mr. John M. Robertson
stated "Krishna" comes "into line with the black deities of other
faiths, notably the Osiris of Egypt...the Black manifestations of
Greek deities and of Jesus Christ." What?! Black Gods! Yes, we also
find that the "First Buddha" in 1366 B.C. was Black! And there are
other similar aspects that these BLACK GODS have besides skin color.
They all had a mother named (Mary) who was a virgin.

Horus' mother: Isis-Meri
Buddha's mother: Maya
Jesus' mother: Mary
Krishna's mother: Devaki


All these Black Gods had "Virgin Mothers". Horus, born on the 25th of
December, 12 disciples crucified and buried in a tomb and
resurrected, called the Son of God, the True Messiah, etc. The same
as Buddha, Drishna and Jesus. In fact, you can find 16 crucified and
resurrected Messiahs. Read Mr. Kersey Graves' The World's Sixteen
Crucified Saviors.

Now, ask yourself, if white historians in the 1800's stated that
Jesus was Black, why is he shown as white? Mr. Gerald Massy
says, "The black Jesus is a well known form of the Child Christ
worshipped on the Continent. (Europe)." (Ancient Egypt, page 301).
Mr. Godfrey Higgins said the same in his Anacalypsis written in 1833.
So ask yourself this: Was there a Jesus? Why does his story sound
like Horus' Kristna's and Buddha's? Again, why is Jesus shown as
White?

Minister Ahmed K. El-Shabazz
Nation of Islam

Higgins
stated: "The worship of the Virgin and the Child which we find in all
Romish countries was nothing more than a remnant of the worship of
Isis and the God, Horus." (Anacalypsis, Volume 1, page 316)










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the original madonna and child...


rather simple...

the story of Jesus, in the New TESTAMENT WAS WRTTEN UNDER/IN THE ROMAN EMPIRE WHICH WAS "CHOCK-FULL" of stories of other "saviour gods".

such as the "virgin" Isis and her son Hours.
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perhaps some of you have yet to read these VERIFIABLE FACTS.