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It can be used to help people stop smoking, the giving of mental cues to reaffirm that smoking is dangerous, putting fear of its effects back into the user and closing the door so that the next time someone wants to smoke, their mind brings up the negative subliminals left by the hypnotist and their bodies reconnect negative things with the cancer stick....

All said with one in front of me of course.

You have to belive in the effects of hypnotism for it to work, kinda have to have faith and be of a certain will to be subject to their tricks although there are ways around this such as confusing the patient, prehaps by clapping and commanding them to sleep instantaniously afterwards, disorientating them from their prehaps adamant disbelief in the effects of the hypnotist and catching them off guard.

A person must want to and belive in what is being put to them, its not the mumbo jumbo that stage hypnotists put out to make their careers sound worth the money, anyone can do it.

Its been used in Africa for thousands of years. The myth of Zombies can be attributed to hypnotism as well as other things. A tololoshe is also made using advanced hypnotism (apparently) involving the insert of a long thin needle into a certain area of the brain triggering certain influxes of electro magnetic waves or some stuff that my meanial knowledge of the topic can't fully grasp and comment on fully.

I was going to use hypnotism to stop smoking but decided not to after realising that I might not be able to smoke afterwards... ever (apparently).... Suddenly finding a habit that I've had for 6+ years as disgusting as smelling raw sewage and drinking it seems a bit odd to me so I opted out, that and there'd be no seeming distinction between ciggaretts and weed, whioch would suck cause I'd rather keep one habit and loose the other.

Question; Could hypnotism be used to stop other addictions?

Herione - Alchol - Crack

And the like are addictions not far flung from Nicotine (apparently) so why can't hypnotism be used to stop these addictions? ''Why can't'' meaning, why isn't it used to stop these addictions or at least help stop these addictions?

A heorine addict could be given the fear of herione to the extent that they feel repulsed at the sight of the stuff. The same with crack and other addictions... and then if so with drugs why not social anolamies? Prision reform etc etc....

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Hi Rebel Lion!

You have made a very good point about hypnotism being used for addictions.

One of the hardest things for a Hypnotist to cure is the smoking addiction and I have not seen any long term change for other addictions such as crack or heroin.

A person using heroin would have to be prepared to change his entire lifestyle...including all friends and associates connected to his habit. This is hard. Some people think they really wantto change but dont realise the far reaching consequences of what life without the drug would be like. They often feel isolated and alone with their only friend and confidant being the hypnotist. This is not enough to build a new life on. When the going gets tough..as it always will...they are often lured back to their old ways by a well meaning but selfish fellow addict.

Heroin is the hardest. A dose of the stuff is like a taste of Paradise. It doesn;t stay that way when you get addicted, but the addict never forgets those early hits. Being off it for a while means that when you do try it again...Heaven awaits.

Hypnotism will work short term but from my experience as a Therapist I;m cautious about taking on cases such as these.
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Post imported post - 24-06-06, 05:57 PM

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Things likeheroin have a strong physical/chemical addiction. You can discipline your mind to be strong but the body won't function without the drug. It can be extremely dangerous to simply stop, which is why people have to be monitored if they are going to go hard cold turkey like that. You can die in theprocess!Addicts have to wean themselves off it slowly.

As for the other things you mentioned I think it can work. I can think of several boxers who have been hypnptised before fights to give them extra focus and stuff like that.

I agree with locsgirl that a person must want to change themselves though. You can't hypnotise somebody who enjoys their addiction into stopping it


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Its alittle known fact but its true that its harder to come off of Valium than Heroin. I;ve also known of reformed Heroin and alcohol addicts who could not,no matter how much they tried give up nicotine.

One of my friends went from being an alcoholic junkie in her younger days to training to be a Rehab Therapist herself. After several years her Boss encouraged her to go back into Rehab herself to finally deal with the smoking habit. But she found it impossible despite her healthy eating and exercise routine,and remains a smoker to this day!
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Lame. Guess you gotta have something. The cigs must fill that void just a bit... they say cigs are just as hard to quit as heroine but I really doubt that one. Rekon the companies put out stuff like that as propaganer.

[align=left]Didn't know going cold turkey could kill an addict, thats major man. I've seen Trainspotting like 1000x the music for it is brilliant always gets me, but I didn't think it (cold turkey) could kill a person.



My brothers friend is just telling me about a plant native to Africa that helps to cure Heroine addicts, apparently the scientists have taken the strain they need and are researching into it... iboga or something...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iboga[/align]
[align=left]Hope they got that one on patent.

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I;ve never known heroin withdrawal kill anyone either. Most people die from overdose due to scoring a purer batch than previously had, and maybe their tolerance cant handle it. This is usual when someone;s been through a period where they;ve had less due to financial lack...next time they score, the gear;s purer and BAM its curtains.

Friend of mine did the African herb withdrawal. He;s tried All the methods there are. He vomited a lot and shed lots of tears about his childhood, but was back on it within 6 months.

Enjoy your cigs banana.gifhave one for me I;ve run out!
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Post imported post - 24-06-06, 09:47 PM

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Weakened heart and system from long time useage or naturally weak... putting yourself through physical trauma of that nature. Not often but it happens. I made the point to illustrate that these things simply aren't only about willpower alone.


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Yeah, guess you're right Keith. Wonder what effect it'd have if they tried though? The mind saying no but the body still craving it... which would win? Would be intresting.

Can't have another cig, got a bit of a high off that one... feel whoosy now.



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LOL

He thinks my name is Keith because I showed him a link to a car being sold by a Keithconfused3


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Its just a laugh. DM sounds more like a David, or a John....


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If the gear was purer though a person could live a very long and productive life on heroin as they did in good ole Queen Vic;s day.And she was very partial to a Toot as the records show!

Heroin does not deplete major organs as much as alcohol and tobacco does over long term use. Rich heroin and opium users fare far better than people whose drug is cut with god knows what...and needles shared. The worse that users suffer over time is the collapsing of blood vessels and thrombosis as a result.

If it was put back in the hands of doctors to meter out instead of dealers our crime rate would diminish rapidly and addicts wouldn;t be a burden to the NHS as they currently are. The police know that their burdens would be lifted overnight if legislation came in to allow this. But too many Greedy Fat Cats at society;s peak would Never allow it....:P
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They should just legalise drugs. They're allowing people to inject themselves with this stuff and die from it when they know they can clean it up. Its the same with Extacy and Cokaine. Its all natural, so why even bother try and stop it being used!?


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