SOLOMON wrote:

Fard Muhammad's real name was Wallace Dodd Ford and he was born in 1891. Like that crazy nut who started the Nuwaubians, he told a million stories about where he came from.



Wallace Dodd Ford never wanted to be thought of as Black. He did not originate the asiatic black man theory- that came from a moorish group that was already in existence. He claimed to be hawaiian, arab, and european but would not say he was black.

Now that just shows the foolishness behind NOI. Always hollering Black man this and Black man that and they WORSHIP A CRACKER AND CALL HIM GOD IN THE HUMAN FORM. They back their claims up with the cracker's bible and the arab cracker's quran. That is why NOI lost its momentum. Not only was the group nothing without Malcolm (and has been nothing ever since he left), but any black group is nothing without Afrika. If somebody has to lie about where they came from (although there is one place we know Fard Muhammad was for sure- locked up in the slammer for being the dope pushing con artist he was) then we don't need them. They can't lead us.

Elijah Poole aka Elijah Muhammad was another hustler. He left several babies behind that he did not take care of. He was also an embezzler and probably had something to do with Malcolm's death.

HatHaruhotep seems to think Mr. FArd andMr. FOrd are the same person.

I shall prove, they are not...



MR. FARD

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MR. FORD







THE READER SHALL NOTICE, MR. FORD HASADISTINCT CURL PATTERN TO HIS HAIR.

MR. FARD'S IS BONESTRAIGHT.

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"...Always hollering Black man this and Black man that and they WORSHIP A CRACKER..."

IT WAS REPORTED MASTER FARD'S FATHER WAS BLACK AND, THE REASON FOR HIS APPEARANCE WAS, SO HE COULD GET AMONG THE BLACKS OF DETROIT AND TEACH.

HE COULD NOTHAVE TAUGHT WHATHE TAUGHT, IN 1930 AND, BEEN DARKBLACK!

CAN IT BE PROVEN,HE WASN'T? confused3

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He claimed to be hawaiian, arab, and european but would not say he was black.


PROOF, PLEASE

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BY THE WILL OF GOD MORE, LATER...

Solomon surely even you see that your last post contradicted itself... in a most dramactic fashionconfused3

SOLOMON wrote:

Maybe he didn't have a hot comb when his mugshot was taken by the police dept? Apparently Fard and Ford both share the same fingerprints, what a coincidence!

Please don't ask to prove anything...ask the FBI instead, there's this thing called the freedom of information privacy act, it wasn't available during the 1930's or 60's
http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/fard.htm

Maybe NOI should offer $100,000 for the the FBI to prove it, attached is a screen dump from my comp of page 6 on his file about the money being offered.... but only up until a blood relative came forward, then the whole subject faded away.

It's the same type of negro nonsense that has been resurfacing again and again, O.J never done it, Tyson never done it, Micheal Jackson never done it, Dr. Malachi York never done it, Fard isn't Ford so he couldn't have done it, or even worse...they all did it.. but not this/my person.
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For crying out loud when are black people gonna open their eyes and just look? It's always "don't listen to them, just have faith in what I say. Jedi mind trick

It is not my intentionto force anyoneto believe anything.

TAKE IT OR, LEAVE IT ALONE.

"...but would not say he was black."


I shall nowprove this incorrect...


In introducing himself to the Blackman, Master Fard Muhammad, operating under his camouflaged name of W.F.Muhammad stated in "English Lesson C-1" :3.My uncle was brought over here by the Trader three hundred seventy-nine years ago. 4.My uncle cannot talk his own language. 5.He does not know that he is My uncle.".

How is it that Master Fard Muhammad (W.F.Muhammad) connects his ancestral roots with the Blackman (uncle)?

Master Fard Muhammad's Father was a Blackman, and his mother a white woman so taught Mr. Elijah Muhammad . And while this has well been established, the Messenger as well taught us that M.F.M. (Master Fard Muhammad) was the One prophesied to come from the lineage of Teman (Esau's generation son) and from the family of Messenger-prophet Muhammad of Arabia. [Our Saviour Has Arrived page 70 / Habakkuk 3:3-4 / Message To The Blackman page 7]

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NOT SO SUPRISINGLY, THE FBI PROVIDES NO PROOF THIS IS TRUE...

Wallace Fard was born 1891 in New Zealand.

Fard arrived in the United States in 1913, settling briefly in Portland, Oregon.

After his release from prison in 1929, he went to Chicago, then on to Detroit as a silk peddler

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YOU THINK THE FBI TELLSTHE TRUTH? ...confused3


COINTELPRO

The Sabotage Of Legitimate Dissent


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The Black Panther Coloring Book
This is but one horrific example of the tactics used by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to stifle legitimate dissent and violate the civil rights of political groups that the administration dislikes. Along with the anti-war movement, the Nixon White House targeted the civil rights movement for disruption, using on-campus informants to infiltrate and in many cases to disrupt legal protests and activism.
This coloring book, which was purported to be from the Black Panthers, had actually been rejected by them when it was brought to them by a man later revealed to have intelligence connections. Not to be troubled by the fact that the Panthers found the coloring book revolting, the FBI added even more offensive illustrations, and mass mailed it across America.
It so infuriated the white population that they stopped listening to the legitimate grievances of the black people.
While it can be argued that such an action did not technically violate the right of the Black Panthers to free speech (even as it sabotaged the willingness of the people to listen), it is apparent than such a divisive act violated the right of the people, black and white, to peacefully assemble.
At the time, I asked my parents if it didn't seem odd to have a book purported to be by blacks for black children mailed to a white household, but I was outvoted in what was a functionally democratic household. But heck, most of us still thought Oswald acted alone then as well.
I had thought the actual coloring book lost forever, relegated to a mere footnote in the Congressional inquiry into COINTELPRO, when the wonder that is the internet brought it into the light again.

THE COLORING BOOK
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DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., CASE STUDY



I. INTRODUCTION


From December 1963 until his death in 1968, Martin Luther King, Jr. was the target of an intensive campaign by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to "neutralize" him as an effective civil rights leader. In the words of the man in charge of the FBI's "war" against Dr. King:

[align=justify]No holds were barred. We have used [similar] techniques against Soviet agents. [The same methods were] brought home against any organization against which we were targeted. We did not differentiate. This is a rough, tough business. 1 [/align]

The FBI collected information about Dr. King's plans and activities through an extensive surveillance program, employing nearly every intelligence-gathering technique at the Bureau's disposal. Wiretaps, which were initially approved by Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, were maintained on Dr. King's home telephone from October 1963 until mid-1965; the SCLC headquarter's telephones were covered by wiretaps for an even longer period. Phones in the homes and offices of some of Dr. King's close advisers were also wiretapped. The FBI has acknowledged 16 occasions on which microphones were hidden in Dr. King's hotel and motel rooms in an "attempt" to obtain information about the "private activities of King and his advisers" for use to "completely discredit" them. 2 ...
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THE FBI'S COVERT ACTION PROGRAM TO DESTROY THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY


INTRODUCTION


In August 1967, the FBI initiated a covert action program -- COINTELPRO -- to disrupt and "neutralize" organizations which the Bureau characterized as "Black Nationalist Hate Groups." 1 The FBI memorandum expanding the program described its goals as:

1. Prevent a coalition of militant black nationalist groups....
2. Prevent the rise of a messiah who could unify and electrify the militant nationalist movement ... Martin Luther King, Stokely Carmichael and Elijah Muhammad all aspire to this position....
3. Prevent violence on the part of black nationalist groups....
4. Prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from gaining respectability by discrediting them....
[align=justify]5. . . . prevent the long-range growth of militant black nationalist organizations, especially among youth. 2 [/align]

[align=justify]The targets of this nationwide program to disrupt "militant black nationalist organizations" included groups such as the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), the Revolutionary Action Movement (RAM), and the Nation of Islam (NOI). It was expressly directed against such leaders as Martin Luther King, Jr., Stokley Carmichael, H. Rap Brown, Maxwell Stanford, and Elijah Muhammad. ...[/align]
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Master of deceit, Wallace Fard Mohammed was masquarading as a Turkish guy. He was caught pushing drugs and now some worship him and claim he was god.

Here is Master of deceit Fard Mohammad



Then he got himslef a hot comb



and then transformd himslef and claimed he was from Turkey. Now some black folks worship him. Sad indeed.

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SOLOMON wrote:

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Maybe you're being shown what lots of men with curly hair did to their hair to fit in or get on in the west? Remember it was you that showed two photos, one with "bone straight" hair, the other with "curly pattern" hair as a reason for it not being the same person. A hot comb is a simple logical explanation,

Look pon him head
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Look........ properly!
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Kinda shiney....Macassar oil, petroleum jelly or brylcreem to hold it down?

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Quote: Quote: [line] YOU THINK THE FBI TELLSTHE TRUTH? ...confused3 . The rest of your post might show FBI liesLOL!, yet nothing in this thread shows your version of Fard's truth apart from he said.....

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Quote: Quote: Out of context again homie, you picked 9 words from the middle, what about the other 29 words?

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Just because one party lies doesn't automatically means the other is telling the truth. The rest of your post might show FBI lies, yet nothing in this thread shows your version of Fard's truth apart from he said.....

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Quote: Quote: Well, Elijah Muhammad said, ALL of his teachings came from Master Fard. Let us check them for "truth", shall we?

Just because one party lies doesn't automatically means the other is telling the truth. ~~~~yet nothing in this thread shows your version of Fard's truth apart from he said.....

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Quote: Surely you not about to show what Fard said as proof are you?

EDIT: YOU DID, DIDN'T YOU.


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My personal view.

All above is neither here nor there, because I have an idea about how all of these religions and movements come about, Elijah Muhammad is an extremely clever man who believes he is doing or is apart something to bring hope for the greater good. There are these saying...."It's for the best" "for the good of the country" "for the greater good"

I for one don't think Elijah Muhhammad actually truely believes the message given, I do think however he is genuinely trying to be noble by giving a certain message for the greater good. Still misguided in my personal view though.

These saying are essentially something has to be sacrificed in order to do good as a whole in their eyes, usually it's the truth replaced with altered version to help motivate the masses. And people actually do believe... really do believe it's for the best. Governments and religions works the same way. All you have to do is look at the latter day saints(yes I am aware of who started it and why)

There are films which shows these analogies of thought much better, one example:

The Village(2004)
This close-knit community lives with the frightening knowledge that creatures reside in the surrounding woods. The evil and foreboding force is so unnerving that none dare venture beyond the borders of the village and into the woods.

In the end it's the village elders who made up the creatures etc to stop people venturing to far, because they themselves had personal tragedies in the real cruel world, so they retreated to an secluded area to live in their own ideal world, giving a story to the younger generation to protect them from the outside world.....for the best?

That's my personal rambling over.

Sir,

It isnot my intent to argue as, I do not believe in compulsion.

On the morrow, I shall presentsomeof theteachingsthat,have been taughtsince the 20's and,prove them correct or damn close.

You are certainly free to, take it or,leave it alone.

. The rest of your postmightshow FBI liesLOL!,yet nothing in this thread shows your version of Fard's truth apart from he said.....

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Just because one party lies doesn't automatically means the other is telling the truth. The rest of your post might show FBI lies, yet nothing in this thread shows your version of Fard's truth apart from he said.....

BTW The other "29 words" do NOT change the meaning of the word"might", "homie".

SOLOMON wrote:
2 posts above you wrote : "It isnot my intent to argue as, I do not believe in compulsion." yet here you are compelled to address one word... "might" explain the word compulsion?

"Might" is to mean not definitive, not a 100% accurate, not 99%, you cannot go into a court of law and prove what you say about the FBI because your evidence is not definitive or a 100% capable of getting any sort of conviction by the comments you've made, it doesn't matter if I agree with you does it? you are bothered because I choose to be differant from you, so I use the word "might" what is that all about? do I have to explain the obvious to you?
confused2
Just because one party lies doesn't automatically means the other is telling the truthNot once have you addressed this in any shape or form, why?

If/when you come back, look upthe words reason and rational in the dictionary, I'm serious!
blkearstick

Sir,

It is not a matter of"arguing". It is simply a matter of proving you wrong...

"you cannot go into a court of law and prove what you say about the FBI because your evidence is not definitive or a 100% capable of getting any sort of conviction by the comments you've made"

LOL! blkdrinkerBACK AWAY FROM THE BOOZE!

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In August 1967, the FBI initiated a covert action program -- COINTELPRO -- to disrupt and "neutralize" organizations which the Bureau characterized as "Black Nationalist Hate Groups." 1 The FBI memorandum expanding the program described its goals as:

1. Prevent a coalition of militant black nationalist groups....
2. Prevent the rise of a messiah who could unify and electrify the militant nationalist movement ... Martin Luther King, Stokely Carmichael and Elijah Muhammad all aspire to this position....
3. Prevent violence on the part of black nationalist groups....
4. Prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from gaining respectability by discrediting them....


[align=justify]5. . . . prevent the long-range growth of militant black nationalist organizations, especially among youth. 2 [/align]


[align=justify]2 Memorandum from G. C. Moore to W. C. Sullivan, 2/29/68, pp. 3-4[/align]


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It should be kept in mind, Mr. Elijah Muhammad claimed ALL his teachings came from Master Fard.

As early as 1933, Mr. Muhammad taught, what we now know as true.The earth was FIRST inhabited by Blacks...






This post is not to claim that Blacks are "superior".

Blacks have been in the U. S. for over 400 years. The Caucasians have taught many people, of the world, Blacks were little better than mere animals. (many Arabs and Muslims were taught this)

Unfortunately, many believed this to be true. I view it as my responsibility to spread the truth, not "supremacy".


ON BLACK SUPREMACY
Allah has revealed that the black is the original Man, and that's what I teach. Now, where this supremacy teaching comes in that is charged by the disbelievers -- that I teach it in order to suit their particular purpose of charging us with being an aggressive movement, or intending to become such, because of the teachings of one being superior over the other.

24 We say that the black man is the first man in the sun, and then they take this and just change it around -- that he is teaching supremacy. And that we are not doing. We already know that we are inferior to you here in America.
25 We cannot say physically or even mentally that we are equal, nor say you're superior, when it comes to actual physical or educational ability.

Me. Elijah Muhammad








4.4 million-year-old human ancestor is found
1994



Tim White, Berhane Asfaw, and Gen Suwa, who have long worked together unearthing and analyzing fossils in Africa, made a new and remarkable discovery in 1993. In Ethiopia, they found hominid skull, jaw, and arm bones plus a few teeth that dated back to 4.4 million years ago. That would make these the oldest hominid ancestors yet identified, and the most primitive hominid species known.

Announcing these fossils in 1994, the group named them Australopithecus ramidus, putting them in the same genus as the 1.75-million-year-old Australopithecus boisei and the 3-million-year-old "Lucy." But eight months later, the researchers changed the name to Ardipithecus ramidus, moving the species represented by the fossils into a different genus. They did not fully explain the change, but were continuing to analyze the fossils and planned publication of their findings within a few years. (According to naming convention, discoverers have the right to name the species, but acceptance of the genus they suggest depends upon the agreement of other workers in the field.)

The species looked to be a link between ancient African apes and Australopithecus.It shared physical features of both groups. Paleontologists Meave Leakey and Alan Walker write that "Ardipithecus, with its numerous chimplike features, appears to have taken the human fossil record back close to the time of the chimp-human split."

Discussion continues over whether Ardipithecus is a hominid or not, whether it walked on two feet or not, and what its relationship is to the 3.9­4.2 million year old fossils found in 1995 by Meave Leakey and Alan Walker in Kenya (Australepithecus anamensis). These latter show clear signs of walking upright and of living in a wooded area, throwing into doubt the usual explanation of bipedalism as an adaptation to living in the savannah. These recent discoveries provide important evidence in the search for human origins, but points out Walker, "As with so many scientific discoveries, this one also provokes more fascinating questions."



Anacalypsis: An Attempt To Draw Aside The Veil Of The Saitic Isis; Or An Inquiry Into The Origin Of Languages, Nations And Religion

Author: Higgins, Godfrey

1836
Volume one of a two volume set. (This description is for all volumes.) Godfrey Higgins was convinced that a high civilization had flourished prior to all historical records. He believed that there had existed then a most ancient and universal religion from which all later creeds and doctrines sprang. His research lasted over 20 years. He attempted to establish the existence of a prehistoric universal religion and to trace its development into contemporary times. He believed this religion possessed accurate knowledge of universal and cosmic phenomena and held neither priesthood nor institution as intermediary in man's communion with the Divine. This highly sought after book is extremely rare. Two volumes.


Subject: Excerpt from "ANACALYPSIS"





Excerpt from "ANACALYPSIS, AN ATTEMPT TO DRAW ASIDE THE VEIL OF THE SAITIC ISIS, OR AN INQUIRY INTO THE ORIGIN OF LANGUAGES, AND NATIONS"


BOOK I - CHAPTER IV
TWO ANCIENT ETHIOPIAS—GREAT BLACK NATION IN ASIA—THE BUDDHA OF INDIA A NEGRO—THE ARABIANS WERE CUSH1TES—SHEPHERD KINGS—HINDOOS AND EGYPTIANS SIMILAR—SYRIA PEOPLED FROM INDIA

Page 51

… but I shall, in the course of this work, produce a number of extraordinary facts, which will be quite sufficient to prove, that a black race, in very early times, had more influence over the affairs of the world than has been lately suspected; and I think I shall shew, by some striking circumstances yet existing, that the effects of this influence have not entirely passed away.

It was the opinion of Sir William Jones, that a great nation of Blacks* formely possessed the dominion of Asia, and held the seat of empire at Sidon. These must have been the people called by Mr. Maurice Cu****es or Cuthites, described in Genesis; and the opinion that they were Blacks is corroborated by the translators of the Pentateuch, called the Seventy, constantly rendering the word Cush by Ethiopia. …

Of this nation we have no account; but it must have flourished after the deluge. … If I succeed in collecting a sufficient number to carry conviction to an impartial mind, the empire must be allowed to have existed.

The religion of Buddha, of India, is well known to have been very ancient. In the most ancient temples scattered throughout Asia, where his worship is yet continued, he is found black as jet, with the flat face, thick lips, and curly hair of the Negro. Several statues of him may be met with the East-India Company. There are two exemplars of him brooding on the face of the deep, upon a coiled serpent. To what time are we to allot this Negro ? He will be proved to have been prior to Cristna. He must have been prior to or contemporaneous with the black empire, supposed by Sir William Jones to have flourished at Sidon. The religion of this Negro God is found, by the ruins of his temples and other circumstances, to have been spread over an immense extent of country, even to the remotest parts of Britain, and to have been professed by devotees inconceivably numerous. …

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The circumstance of the translators of the Septuagint version of the Pentateuch having rendered the word Cush by the word Ethiopia, is a very decisive proof that the theory of two Ethiopias is well founded. Let the translators have been who they may, it is totally impossible to believe that they could be so ignorant as to suppose that the African Ethiopia could border on the Euphrates, or that the Cu****es could be African Ethiopia.

Page 54

Eusebius* states the Ethiopians to have come and settled in Egypt, in the time of Amenophis. According to this account, as well as to the account given by Philostratus,** there was no such country as Ethiopia beyond Egypt until this invasion. According to Eusebius these people came from the river Indus, and planted themselves to the south of Egypt, in the country called from them Ethiopia. The circumstances named by Eusebius that they came from the Indus, at all events, implies that they came from the East, and not from the South, and would induce a person to suspect them as having crossed the Red Sea from Arabia; …

* In Chron. ad Num. 402.

** In vita Apollon. Tyanei.

Herodotus says, that there were two Ethiopian nations, one in India, the other in Egypt. He derived his information from the Egyptoian priests, a race of people who must have known the truth; …

Philostratus* says, that the Gymnosophists of Ethiopia, who settle near the sources of the Nile, descended from the Bramins of India, having been driven thence for the murder of their king.** This, Philostratus says, he learnt from an ancient Brahmin, called Jarchas.

* Vita Apoll. C. vi.

** Crawford, Res. Vol. II p.193.

Another ancient writer, Eustathius, also states, that the Ethiopians came from India. These concurring accounts can scarcely be doubted; and here may be discovered the mode and time also when great numbers of ancient rites and ceremonies might be imported from India into Egypt; …

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Mr. Wilsford, in his treatise on Egypt and the Nile, in the Asiatic Researches, informs us, that many very ancient statues of the God Buddha in India have crisp, curly hair, with flat noses and thick lips; and adds, "nor can it be reasonably doubted, that a race of Negroes formerly had power and pre-eminence in India."This is confirmed by Mr. Maurice, who says, "The figures in the Hindoo caverns are of a very different character from the present race of Hindoos : their countenances are broad and full, the nose flat, and the lips, particularly the under lip, remarkably thick." …Justin states, that the Phœnecians being obliged to leave their native country in the East, they settled first near the Assyrian Lake, which is the Persian Gulf; and Maurice says, "We find an extensive district, named Palestine, to the east of the Euphrates and Tigris. The word Palestine seems derived from Pallisthan, the seat of the Pallis or Shepherds." Palli, in India, means Shepherd.

… It is a well-known fact that our Hindoo soldiers when they arrived in Egypt, in the late war, recognized the Gods of their country in the ancient temples, particularly their God Cristna.

The striking similarity, indeed identity, of the style of architecture and the ornaments of the ancient Egyptian and Hindoo temples, Mr. Maurice has proven beyond all doubt. …

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… In my Essay on The Celtic Druids, I have shewn, that a great nation called Celtæ, of whom the Druids were the priests, spread themselves almost over the whole earth, and are to be traced in their rude gigantic monuments from India to the extremities of Britain. Who these can have been but the early individuals of the black nation of whom we have been treating I know not, and in this opinion I am not singular. The learned Maurice says, "Cuthites, i. e. Celts, built the great temples in India and Britain, and excavated the caves of the former."* And the learned Mathematician, Reuben Burrow, has no hesitation in pronouncing Stonehenge to be a temple of the black, curly-headed Buddha.
* Maurice, Hist. Hind. Vol.II p.249.
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Griffith Taylor linked together Melanesians, Negroes, and American Indians. (95) The same authority proposed a relationship between Java Man and Rhodesian Man. (96) He related certain Swiss tribes which seem to be a pocket of an older racial stock with the people of northern China, the Sudanese, the Bushmen of South Africa, and the Aeta of the Philippines. (97) He would also link the Predmost Skull to Aurignacian folk and to the Australoids. (98) Macgowan (99) and Montagu (100) were convinced that the aboriginal populations of central and southern America contain an element of Negroid as well as Australoid people. Grimaldi Man is almost universally admitted to have been Negroid even though his remains lie in Europe. (101) But indeed, so widespread is the Negroid type that even Pithecanthropus erectus was identified as Negroid by Buyssens. (102)
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"An example of an important omission of this kind may be found on
the fifteenth, sixteenth, and seventeenth pages of this volume,
which may be appropriately referred to, in this connection. It is
there stated, in describing the ancient kingdom of Ethiopia, and
the ruins of Thebes, her opulent metropolis, that "There a people,
now forgotten, discovered, while others were yet barbarians, the
elements of the arts and sciences. A race of men, now rejected
from society for their sable skin and frizzled hair, founded on the
study of the laws of nature, those civil and religious systems
which still govern the universe."
A voluminous note, in which standard authorities are cited, seems
to prove that this statement is substantially correct, and that we
are in reality indebted to the ancient Ethiopians, to the fervid
imagination of the persecuted and despised negro, for the various
religious systems now so highly revered by the different branches
of both the Semitic and Aryan races. This fact, which is so
frequently referred to in Mr. Volney's writings, may perhaps solve
the question as to the origin of all religions, and may even
suggest a solution to the secret so long concealed beneath the flat
nose, thick lips, and negro features of the Egyptian Sphinx. It
may also confirm the statement of Dioderus, that "the Ethiopians
conceive themselves as the inventors of divine worship, of
festivals, of solemn assemblies, of sacrifices, and of every other
religious practice."
That an imaginative and superstitious race of black men should have
invented and founded, in the dim obscurity of past ages, a system
of religious belief that still enthralls the minds and clouds the
intellects of the leading representatives of modern theology,--that
still clings to the thoughts, and tinges with its potential
influence the literature and faith of the civilized and cultured
nations of Europe and America, is indeed a strange illustration of
the mad caprice of destiny, of the insignificant and apparently
trivial causes that oft produce the most grave and momentous
results.The translation here given closely follows that published in Paris
by Levrault, Quai Malaquais, in 1802, which was under the direction
and careful supervision of the talented author; and whatever notes
Count Volney then thought necessary to insert in his work, are here
carefully reproduced without abridgment or modification...."

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solomon = wise
abdul = servant of
Rahman = The Benificent or The Doer of Good
so, the wise servant of, The Doer of Good

If you take one step towards Him, He runs 2 you!

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In his book, The Destruction of Black Civilization, black scholar, Chancellor Williams informs us that history has proven that a number of tactics were employed by anthropologists to blot out black accomplishments. Here is a list of Williams' observations about how anthropologists chose to operate:

1. "Ignore or refuse to publish any facts of African history" that would not support
their racial theories.

2. "Create a religious and 'scientific' doctrine" to ease the white conscience for
oppressing and enslaving African people.

3. "Flood the world with hastily thrown together African 'histories'" that contain
European perspectives only.

4. "Start renaming people and places. Replace African names of persons, places, and
things with Arabic and European names." This will disguise their true black identity.

5. Change the criteria for defining race. For example, one drop of Negro blood in
America makes you a Negro, no matter how light your skin. When reporting ancient
history, reverse the standard. Make one drop of white blood render someone a
Caucasian no matter how dark the skin. (Test this criteria during the
"riding-at-the-back-of the-bus" era of the South during the 1940s in the USA. Be
assured that any of the Pharaoh's of Egypt, especially up to and including the 25th
Dynasty, would have been required to sit at the back of the bus.)

6. When black participation in civilization is so obvious your best schemes can't
hide it, find a way to attribute the success to outside white influence.

7. When all the ancient historians contradict your theory, seek to discredit them.




http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGhistory.htm




Return To Glory: The Powerful Stirring of the Black Man

In many sectors there seems to be some controversy about the racial make-up of the Egyptian people, i.e. whether they were White or Black. This is a simplistic approach to a much more complicated set of circumstances since Egypt's strategic location brought people in from the south with Nubian and equatorial African influence and from the northern coast of Africa and the Middle East with Afro-Mediterranean and Semitic influences. The Biblical record places Egypt among the "Black" countries. Melanin dosage tests of mummified remains (controversial due to damage caused by the embalming process) seem to indicate a level of melanocytes consistent with a people of a semi tropical to temperate climate zone.

Egypt continues to dominate the focus of our African oriented studies. These studies have clearly demonstrated that not only were early Egypt's origins African, but that through the whole of Egypt's Dynastic Era (the age of the Pharaohs), and during all of her many periods of national splendor, men and women with black skin complexions, broad noses, full lips, and tightly curled hair, were dominant in both the general population and governing elite.

In the intense and unrelenting struggle to establish scientifically the African foundations of Egyptian civilization, the late Senegalese scholar Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop remains a most fierce and ardent champion. Dr. Diop (1923-1986) was without a doubt one of the world's leading Egyptologist and held the position of Director of the Radiocarbon Laboratory at the Fundamental Institute of Black Africa in Dakar, Senegal. In stating the importance of the work, Diop noted emphatically and early on that, "The history of Black Africa will remain suspended in air and cannot be written correctly until African historians dare to connect it with the history of Egypt."

The solid range of methodologies employed by Dr. Diop in the course of his extensive Afro-Egyptian labors included: examinations of the epidermis of the mummies of Egyptian kings for verification of their melanin content; precise osteological measurements and meticulous studies in the various relevant areas of anatomy and physical anthropology; careful examinations and comparisons of modern Upper Egyptian and West African blood-types; detailed Afro-Egyptian linguistic studies and the corroboration of distinct Afro-Egyptian cultural traits; documents of racial designations employed by the early Africans themselves; Biblical testimonies and references that address the ancient Egyptian's ethnicity, race and culture; and the writings of early Greek and Roman travelers and scholars describing the physical characteristics of the ancient Egyptians.

The original Egyptians were unmixed pure black folks. When they were at the pinnacle of their glory they were not a mixed group by any means. During the middle dynasties especially (and later) when people migrated to this great land there was some intermarrying. This is natural and doesn't need to be debated. It was even done within royalty lines at times to solidify alliances, which was a common practice between powers during that period of history. Chancellor Williams refers to this phenomenon in his book "The Destruction of Black Civilization." And frankly, he theorizes that this mixing was part of the reason for the fall of Black Civilization. Nevertheless, there was never so much of this that at any time the ancient Egyptians could ever be classified as other than a black people.

It's reasonable to say that Egypt was a gateway for the meeting and interchange of goods, ideas, and people; and that the Egyptians were themselves a unique _expression of human strength, beauty, intelligence and diversification. Ancient Egypt was an African civilization. It is also interesting to note that the Biblical record states "Israel also came into Egypt...the land of Ham." (Psalm 105: 23).

Plus we need to be reminded that Egypt is in Africa (not the Middle East) and that all of the Pharaohs (up to and including the 25th Dynasty) would have been required to "sit at the back of a bus" in the 1940s in Montgomery Alabama. Let's allow the pictures to speak for themselves...Ready?


http://www.freemaninstitute.com/RTGhistory.htm

So, if Adam was the first man, guess what color the first Muslim was?



if you take one step towards Him, He runs 2 you!



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solomon = wise[/align]
abdul = servant of
Rahman = The Benificent or The Doer of Good
so, the wise servant of, The Doer of Good

If you take one step towards Him, He runs 2 you!

SOLOMON wrote:

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How are you going to prove me wrong bro when I've already made the comments below:

Regarding the FBI:

"it doesn't matter if I agree with you does it? you are bothered because I choose to be differant from you"

So what do you do? you post info regarding FBIs shenanigans.....why? make sense!

Regarding Fard:

"yet nothing in this thread shows your version of Fard's truth apart from he said....."

So what do you do? you post info regarding Fards shenanigans from Fard?....why? make sense!

The only thing you have proved is that your post is actually irrelevant, you tell me to back away from the booze(Islamic insult, what about pork?), I'm telling you to open your nostrils wide and take a good few deep breathes, get some fresh air inside you, it might just help clear your head.

Snap out of your brainwashing son, you ARE arguing for arguments sake and you are not proving me wrong. If I show you where the stories in the Qur'an most likely originates from, your arguement is "show me where inside the Quran it says this". DOH!!!! If I ask you about proof about Fard apart from what he says himself, you show what Fard had said himself, if not you show what Elijah Muhhammad said. :?

You surely are working within a rigidly set parameter aren't you? Your next post....because I know you like the have the final say, will not address what I've said. Because you can't, can you?

SIR,

I'LL ADRESS YOUR POSTblk2cheers2 ON THE MORROW.

Unfortunately, I can not "prove Caucasians have been here for 6.000
years but, I have discovered the following...

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Elijah Muhammad(pbuh) taught that

a) Blacks have no said birth record and

b) Caucasians were "made" about 6,000 years ago.




How old is the earth according to the Bible?
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The Bible is clear that Adam, the first man, lived only 6000 years ago. Adam was created on the sixth day of God's Creation Week, so the earth must be only 6000 years old too.

The following timeline by Theodore Pederson appeared in The Christian News, March 26, 2001, page 18.

How old is the earth?
If we go back 500 years, we come to the time of Martin Luther (born in 1483), and Columbus, who “sailed the ocean blue in 1492.�

If we go back 1000 years, we come to the time of Leif Ericson, Christian explorer, who preached Christ to pagans. (World Book, 1983, vol.6, page 270.)

If we go back 2000 years, we come to the birth of Jesus Christ. Our calendar is dated from His birth.

If we go back 3000 years, we come to the time of David and Solomon; they ruled Israel about 1000BC.

If we go back 4000 years, we come to the time of Abraham (2000BC), ancestor of Arabs and Jews.

If we go back 5000 years, we come to the time of Enoch, who “walked with God 300 years … and God took him [into Heaven].�

If we go back 6000 years, we come to the time of Creation, and Adam and Eve (4004BC). Luke, evangelist and historian, records Adam as the first man (Luke 3:38).

The earth is about 6000 years old. Let God's people rejoice in Him who made them! (Psalm 149:2)

And Adam was the first man, created in the first week of the earth's existence.

He lived about 6000 years ago.



http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/earthsage.html

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BIBLICAL CHRONOLOGY CHART






Creation - 0
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Abraham enters Canaan - 2000
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Jacob(Israel) Born - 2090
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Exodus - 2490
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Israel settled in Promised Land - 2540
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First Human King of Israel - 2890
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House of Israel 'not a people' - 3330
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Start of Desolation of Judah - 3390
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Destruction of Jerusalem - 3410
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Decree of Cyrus - 3460
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New Testament Gospel - 3990
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Judaism Grafted Back-In - 5980
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Tribulation Begins - 5990
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Kingdom of God - 6000

http://www.nwcreation.net/biblechrono.html

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[align=LEFT][/font]Due to it being prized as the coveted word of God, the Bible has been better preserved, and translated into more languages than any other book in history. Original manuscripts can be found in the oldest written languages on earth, and it also contains the longest running genealogical sequence known to exist, spanning approximately 4000 years. There is simply no other book in existence that offers a better chronological record of the early history of earth.




The Annals of the World[/b] by [/font]James Ussher. 17th Century. ISBN0890513600[/align]
The Bible states in Genesis 1 that the earth with all its inhabitants was created by God in 6 days. Many people argue that the creation days should not be taken literally, but God created time and language, and expressed the creation in terms we could correlate to our definitions of time. The Biblical account is very specific about the length of time involved with each episode of the creation.If this description is temporally accurate then calculating the age of the earth and the universe is relatively easy.



The Bible contains a genealogical record from Adam to Jesus, and our existing calendar is associated with the life of Jesus (BC/AD). The Bible also specifies the age of each man in this lineage at the time he had his first son. Therefore, the age of our world can be easily calculated by adding these years together. According to this Biblical chronology the earth is almost exactly 6000 years old, and approximately 4500 years ago the global flood completely destroyed all terrestrial life except those saved by God through his instructions to Noah.

http://www.nwcreation.net/biblechrono.html

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Some Christians believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. This is a
mistake. I believe the "6,000" years is the amount of time since the
making of th Biblical Adam, the Caucasians.


The story of Adam and Eve is about the Caucasian race, which has been
on earth for about 6,000 years.

CAN ANYONE PROVIDE "PROOF", THEY HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER? confused3

this is not "racist". I only seek the truth.

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MR. MUHAMMAD TAUGHT THAT CAUCASIANS SPENT 2,000 YEARS, IN THE
CAUCASUS MOUTAINS AFTER THEIR BEING MADE.

OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT "PROOF", THOUGH I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED, WHY THEIR MEDIA SEEMS SO FASCINATED, W/ CAVEMEN? AND THE NAME, CAUCASIANS.















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