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10 The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence[impossible if, God is a "spirit",only]; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me." [such as confused3]
15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [suP][e][/suP] ; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. confused316 So Cain went out from the LORD's presenceconfused3 and lived in the land of Nod, [suP][f][/suP] east of Eden.
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Of course Adam and Eve where not the first or only inhabitants of the earth because who could possibly kill Cain if its onlyhis parents and Seth left according to the bible? Who exactly did Cain marry and have kids with if he was away from God and the only other people on earth at the time? The bible describes Egypt as descendents of Adam and Eve but Egyptwas already an established nation when Adam andEve were supposedly created.
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Let's be real here. The Hebrews (called the haribu by Egyptians) were cultureless, uncivilized, heathenistic, barbaric nomads who ripped many parts off from Kemet without really understanding them. The first man "Adam" transliterates directly into the Kemetic"Atum" who was the first perfect man. The tree of life with the serpent offering fruit is on the sarcophogus of Ramses, and was well known throughout Kemet for thousands of years before there was a Hebrew. There are many things Genesis borrowed from Kemet, but it is apparent that the Hebrews were simply copious in nature, and didn't even think it through. Hence why the Bible is riddled with contradictions.
Adam and Eve in the Biblical sense never existed.
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Let's be real here. The Hebrews (called the haribu by Egyptians) were cultureless, uncivilized, heathenistic, barbaric nomads who ripped many parts off from Kemet without really understanding them.This is the same way some white people generally feel about blacks, is that some strange coincidence? Did the Hebrews rip Yahweh from the Mizraimites too? Neither took Him seriously and both have been justly punished.
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Who was around who could desire to possibly kill Cain? Firstly Adam. After time it could havebecome Seth and Adam, that's not including the daughters of Adam and Eve that were not mentioned. If they were obsessed enough, they could have told the story to every descendent back then of Adam and made attempts to avenge Abel. That wasn't what Adam was about, he was naturally righteous aside from his major mistake. Anyway, a people can't grown unless there are males and females. That goes for Adam and Cain. It is missing in "the bible", but Cain did have a twin sister and Abel surely had sisters. If everyone on this earth has DNA that is ninety-nine percent identical, then that proves genetically mankind has a singular genetic source and foundation. Anyone who knows the science of melanin would understand that the genetic foundation of mankind origins from a melaninated person or people. It is like a glass of water. A glass with 1/3 of water cannot fill another glass up, but the full glass can fill another glass up entirely or even 2/3, 1/3 of the way. This is the same principlebehind melanin and genetics, only simplified for understanding.
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How did the ancients define "world"?
There are variations, for some the "end of the world" was something tangible like a mountain range. Clearly for the writers of Genesis the world at that time included Eden alone. So the land of Nod is outside the narrative.
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The story of Adam and Eve is about the "making" of Caucasians.
The "additional" people were "pre-adamites" or Blacks.
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There are variations, for some the "end of the world" was something tangible like a mountain range. Clearly for the writers of Genesis the world at that time included Eden alone. So the land of Nod is outside the narrative.
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I think you hit the nail on the head......
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Believe?
LOL there are way more problems with Genesis than merely where did Cain find a wife!
Where did his later siblings find wives and husbands? Was it incest? How did a race of diverse humans spring forth from two people? God picked up mud, sneezed and hey presto it's Adam? Talking sneaky snakes?
God being cruel... making curious creatures and telling them they can do anything EXCEPT one thing? LOL there was an old story about a guy sitting on a hill being told by a king he could have anything he wanted so long as he did not think the word "hippotamus". Which is obviously impossible todo!
The punishment for a snake is that it must crawl on it's belly? WTF else is a snake gonna do? What a stupid punishment that is!
How come the plants were around before the sun? What were they photosynthesising before "let there be light"?
Honestly were Cain got a wife from is the least of problems 
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Another take on the Adam and Eve story.....
LOL this funny, because of peoples silly interpretation of holy books.. some circles literally believe in Adam and Eve so it's ok to breed like Adam and Eve, we have uncles with nieces, 1st cousins, you name it and worse..all that nastiness. Sikhs don't call Muslims "sister f***er" for nothing you know!
You can goto Stamford Hill where there are many Jewish people and notice the disproportionately high levels of disabled children OR just plain so-called normal weird lookers, it's the same with the Muslim community. I remember long ago a Doctor came on tv blatently saying the blood was too rich with inherited dieseases and urged the Asians to change. Goto the middle-east and find the disproportionately high levels of Thalassaemia blood disorders.
The good? book says this is how things came about, in reality the practising of the good? book messes with nature, yet people won't question why this happens if it's ok!
Whos right, Nature or The Book?
The world's full of them..... and you know it!
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"... How did a race of diverse humans spring forth from two people? ..."
I was taught, by a method of "birth control".
"Was it incest?"
No, there were other people on earth, at the time of Adam's making...
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10 The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."
13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and ...
I will be hidden from your presence[impossible if, God is a "spirit",only]
; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth,...
and whoever finds me will kill me." [such as ?]
15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [ ; if anyone ? ]
kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that...
no one who found him would kill him.?
16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence ?
and lived in the land of Nod, [f] east of Eden.
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Sure - I think with all of the physical evidence . . . .scientific evidence . . . we know that Adam and Eve were not the first people on the earth . .
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"Where did his later siblings find wives and husbands?"
Good question
"God picked up mud, sneezed and hey presto it's Adam?"
"Talking sneaky snakes?"
LOL blknoway
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