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INSHA ALLAH WE SHALL ALSO DISCUSS "CHRISTIANITY" IN THIS THREAD AS, IT IS A CAUCASIAN INVENTION...

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INTERESTING SIMILARITIES...
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IN MY OPINION, THERE ARE SEVERAL SIMILARITIES.
1. MR. MUHAMMAD TAUGHT THAT, AFTER CAUCASIANS STARTED TROUBLE, AMONG THE BLACKS, THEY WERE FORCED TO CROSS THE DESERT AND...

2. WERE FORCED INTO CAVES AND...

3. HAD 6,000 YEARS TO, RULE THE EARTH.
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The First Book of Adam and Eve

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Prologue

The First Book of Adam and Eve details the life and times of Adam and Eve after they were expelled from the garden to the time that Cain kills his brother Abel. It tells of Adam and Eve’s first dwelling - the Cave of Treasures; their trials and temptations; Satan’s many apparitions to them; the birth of Cain, Abel, and their twin sisters; and Cain’s love for his beautiful twin sister, Luluwa, whom Adam and Eve wished to join to Abel.

This book is considered by many scholars to be part of the "Pseudepigrapha" (soo-duh-pig-ruh-fuh). The "Pseudepigrapha" is a collection of historical biblical works that are considered to be fiction. Because of that stigma, this book was not included in the compilation of the Holy Bible. This book is a written history of what happened in the days of Adam and Eve after they were cast out of the garden. Although considered to be pseudepigraphic by some, it carries significant meaning and insight into events of that time. It is doubtful that these writings could have survived all the many centuries if there were no substance to them.

This book is simply a version of an account handed down by word of mouth, from generation to generation, linking the time that the first human life was created to the time when somebody finally decided to write it down. This particular version is the work of unknown Egyptians. The lack of historical allusion makes it difficult to precisely date the writing, however, using other pseudepigraphical works as a reference, it was probably written a few hundred years before the birth of Christ. Parts of this version are found in the Jewish Talmud, and the Islamic Koran, showing what a vital role it played in the original literature of human wisdom. The Egyptian author wrote in Arabic, but later translations were found written in Ethiopic. The present English translation was translated in the late 1800’s by Dr. S. C. Malan and Dr. E. Trumpp. They translated into King James English from both the Arabic version and the Ethiopic version which was then published in The Forgotten Books of Eden in 1927 by The World Publishing Company.

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PART 2 INTERESTING SIMILARITIES..
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PART 2

Chapter I - The crystal sea, God commands Adam, expelled from Eden, to live in the Cave of Treasures.

9 And God commanded him to live there in a cave in a rock the Cave of Treasures below the garden.

Chapter II - Adam and Eve faint when they leave the Garden. God sends His Word to encourage them

2 And when they came to the opening of the gate of the garden, and saw the broad earth spread before them, covered with stones large and small, and with sand, they feared and trembled, and fell on their faces, from the fear that came over them; and they were as dead. LIKE A DESERT

Chapter III - Concerning the promise of the great five and a half days.

3 But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five and a half days, he did not understand the meaning of them.

4 For Adam was thinking there would be only five and a half days for him until the end of the world.

5 And Adam cried, and prayed to God to explain it to him.

6 Then God in his mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and likeness, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; CLOSE TO 6,000

17 Strengthen your heart, therefore, and stay in the Cave of Treasures, of which I have before spoken to you."

Chapter IV - Adam mourns over the changed conditions. Adam and Eve enter the Cave of Treasures.

2 And indeed, when Adam looked at his flesh, that was altered, he cried bitterly, he and Eve, over what they had done. And they walked and went gently down into the Cave of Treasures. THAT THEIR SKIN WAS NOW WHITE?

3 And as they came to it, Adam cried over himself and said to Eve, "Look at this cave that is to be our prison in this world, and a place of punishment!

4 What is it compared with the garden? What is its narrowness compared with the space of the other?

5 What is this rock, by the side of those groves? What is the gloom of this cavern, compared with the light of the garden?

6 What is this overhanging ledge of rock to shelter us, compared with the mercy of the Lord that overshadowed us?

7 What is the soil of this cave compared with the garden land? This earth, strewed with stones; and that, planted with delicious fruit trees?"

Chapter VI - God’s reprimand to Adam and Eve in which he points out how and why they sinned.

5 Of your own free will have you transgressed through your desire for divinity, greatness, and an exalted state, such as I have; so that I deprived you of the bright nature in which you then were, and I made you come out of the garden to this land, rough and full of trouble.

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WHO/WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS BEING REFERRED TO?

WHY?

THE QU'RAN

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YUSUFALI: And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.

WHO, DO YOU BELIVE IT, REFERS TO, NOW?

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YUSUFALI: "O ye assembly of Jinns and men! came there not unto you messengers from amongst you, setting forth unto you My signs, and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours?" They will say: "We bear witness against ourselves." It was the life of this world that deceived them. So against themselves will they bear witness that they rejected Faith.

Do you believe that Allah sent messengers to those that CAN'T be seen?

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YUSUFALI: He will say: "Enter ye in the company of the peoples who passed away before you - men and jinns, - into the Fire." Every time a new people enters, it curses its sister-people (that went before), until they follow each other, all into the Fire. Saith the last about the first: "Our Lord! it is these that misled us: so give them a double penalty in the Fire." He will say: "Doubled for all" : but this ye do not

IN THIS VERSE, CAN YOU NOT SEE?

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YUSUFALI: Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).

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YUSUFALI: Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.

THIS IMPLIES THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE.

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YUSUFALI: And to Solomon (We made) the Wind (obedient): Its early morning (stride) was a month's (journey), and its evening (stride) was a month's (journey); and We made a Font of molten brass to flow for him; and there were Jinns that worked in front of him, by the leave of his Lord, and if any of them turned aside from our command, We made him taste of the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

SURELY YOU ARE NOT STATING, SOLOMON COULD NOT SEE THEM!

PLUS, MANY MORE...

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YUSUFALI: Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam": They bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers!

If the dear reader shall notice, Iblis is NOT referred to as an "angel".

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YUSUFALI: Said an 'Ifrit, (strong one) of the Jinns: "I will bring it to thee before thou rise from thy council: indeed I have full strength for the purpose, and may be trusted."

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YUSUFALI: Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons[CHRISTIANS] and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!

Allah created them

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PICKTHAL: Thus have We appointed unto every prophet an adversary - devils of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising;

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SHAKIR: And on the day when He shall gather them all together: O assembly of jinn! you took away a great part of mankind. And their friends from among the men shall say: Our Lord! some of us profited by others and we have reached our appointed term which Thou didst appoint for us. He shall say: The fire is your abode, to abide in it, except as Allah is pleased; surely your Lord is Wise, Knowing.

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I DO NOT UNSERSTAND WHY MY PEOPLE REFUSE TO SEE CAUCASIANS FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE.

WE ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT BEING CALLED "RACIST" WE ARE "BLIND" TO TRUTH.

THERE IS NO "SPIRITUAL" DEVIL.

DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF CAUCASIANS IN BRITAIN BUT, PJUST A GLANCE AT THEIR HISTORY, HERE IN AMERICA,PROVES THEMTO BETHE "REAL"DEVIL.

JUST A FEW EXAMPLES...

1. THEY ATTEMPTED TO "EXTERMINATE" THE NATIVES OF THIS COUNTRY.

2. THEY KEPT AFRICANS AND THEIR ANCESTORS ENSLAVED FOR 300 YEARS.

STOP BEING "BLIND"!

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I see you have been using more "Christian" resources. I had to look into what you meant in detail by jinn. It was spirits, specifically demonic (evil). There are no absolutes though, but tendencies.

I just synthesized information of the Book of Adam and Eve in reference to the cave dwelling and another bit of information, this is what I received. Before the sin (transgression) of Adam and Eve(Chava), they were the image of God in all aspects, their nature was bright, upright and they could see things that anyone with a lower nature could not see (like the heavenly spirits; "angels"). After the sin of Adam and Eve, they lost their "bright" nature, as well as a benefits of that bright nature, living in paradise (principle: The inside affects/influences the outside environment, which in turn is a reflection of some aspect of the inside). In this lowly state, they lived in a deplorably carnal spiritual/physical state, they livedequal to an animal; dog. One Hundred-Eighty degrees from their original state; God (image/and the ways of).

Most black (african, whatever name to describe this one body of people) people choose today to live in this state, which has symboliclinks to the esoteric story of The Prince and the Pauper. Such a seemingly childish story of fantasy, but today as days before,the easy way to hide knowledge is to veil it behind fantasy or humor. The average person would and is not aware enough to notice it. I'm sure many are familar with the story, it's about how a pauper (Tom Canty; 'Tom', short for Thomas meaning 'twin'/ Canty meaning 'sprightly', which is more accurate by the synonym 'spirited' as in 'carried off secretly or mysteriously') traded places with the prince, Edward Tudor (Edward meaning, 'prosperity-guard' and Tudor, welsh form of Theodore meaning, 'Gift of God'). Oddly enough one hundred-eighty degreesfrom prosperity is poverty, which is used in the same context in the first chapter of this tale. It also has relevance to Adam and Eve's situation and the seed of Adam and the seed of Satan (referenced as 'the snake' in the bible in Gen.). This is a veryspiritual and moral tale of retribution, above that justice and restoration. Just as the Divine balance was set originally, as Adam as the godhead, so with it be reinstated as his true descendents, unchanged in appearanceto this day will be restored tounto thesame. This is prophecy that we will witness within this lifetime.

Now squarely back on the topic.

2 And indeed, when Adam looked at his flesh, that was altered, he cried bitterly, he and Eve, over what they had done. And they walked and went gently down into the Cave of Treasures.

The interpretation of thisis debatable. Although it implies some sort of change in the flesh, it isn't exact, so it forces the search of context clues within the preceeding passages of the Book of Adam and Eve, Chapter IV.

8 And Adam said to Eve, "Look at your eyes, and at mine, which before beheld angels praising in heaven; and they too, without ceasing. 9 But now we do not see as we did; our eyes have become of flesh; they cannot see like they used to see before." 10 Adam said again to Eve, "What is our body today, compared to what it was in former days, when we lived in the garden?"

This backed by the Chapter XIII, 1 Then when God, who is merciful and full of pity, heard Adam's voice, He said to him: -- 2 "O Adam, so long as the good angel was obedient to Me, a bright light rested on him and on his hosts. 3 But when he transgressed My commandment, I deprived him of that bright nature, and he became dark. 4 And when he was in the heavens, in the realms of light, he knew nothing of darkness. 5 But he transgressed, and I made him fall from the heaven onto the earth; and it was this darkness that came over him. 6 And on you, O Adam, while in My garden and obedient to Me, did that bright light rest also. 7 But when I heard of your transgression, I deprived you of that bright light. Yet, of My mercy, I did not turn you into darkness, but I made you your body of flesh, over which I spread this skin, in order that it may bear cold and heat. 8 If I had let My wrath fall heavily on you, I should have destroyed you; and had I turned you into darkness, it would have been as if I had killed you. 9 But in My mercy, I have made you as you are; when you transgressed My commandment, O Adam, I drove you from the garden, and made you come forth into this land; and commanded you to live in this cave; and darkness covered you, as it did over him who transgressed My commandment.

I think the change that Adam observed physically was that bright, shimmeringlight that was once over him, which had gone. One hundred-eighty degrees of light (truth) is darkness (lies and decept), which Adam and Eve fell victim to by listening to Satan (darkness), instead of the Divine Wordand commandment of the LORD, YHWH.

So I disagree as well with a past statement of yours (if you are Sol-omon)that spoke of this Genesis event being the creation of white people, truthfully it is only a white-washed illustrative (pictures) covering the underlying melaninated truth. Scientific DNA study proves the black human ancestory of mankind. Check this link that I provide. The truth in reference to thisis there. For the lazy readers, listen to the audio file. [media=180,180]http://fyad.org/faoj[/media]

Ido also not agree with that statement because an origin of such would not be documented and made available readily before the origin of actually who all mankind preceeded from, not by landmass, but by living and breathing people. Also for this same instance of conception being verified by the Hebrew Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls, that only solidifies the truth.

As for all white people being devils, I can't say that is absolutely the truth. There are tendencies in mankind, but no absolutes. I have observed firsthand the wicked tendencyof whites, but I can say that I have a least met one white person of a good nature. Interestingly enough awoman ofaround fifty years old, soft spoken and kind, but even that so far seems to be a rarity. Although this tendency isn't sown proportionately, I have encountered devil-spirited of my own, which has prompted me to probe each and every spirit from within, not to get caught up in physicality alone; there are many forms of man, but there are only two natures of spirit, good and evil.

sol · (#4 (**permalink**))

Do you believe they just pulled the "caveman" idea out their arsre?

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I was allowing what I was previously taught the meaning of a "devil" to be. I now believe Mr. Muhammad's(pbuh).

Because the Caucasians were "made" from us, they are a "watered down" version. This is inclusive of "morals", as well.

So, the ancient Egyptians were correct, in referring to the Caucasians as "the children

of Typhon".

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SOME HAVE CALLED ELIJAH MUHAMMAD(PBUH) A RACIST. PARTLY FOR
REFERRING TO THE WHITE RACE AS "DEVILS". BELOW IS WHAT HIS DEFINITION
WAS. IN IN HIS OWN WORDS.

What Is The Meaning Of "a Devil"?

I would like to know exactly what did Elijah
Muhammad(pbuh) mean by the word "devil" ?

As-Salaam Alaikum: The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught that ..."any
life
germ from original is Devil. Basically, any grafted thing can be
considered a
devil. You can have a devil cat out there, etc... But
Satan - Satan means one who's wickedness is not
confined to one's self, but spreads and it affects others."

I hope this is clear As-Salaam Alaikum
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YEC's=Young Earth Creationists=Christians that mistakenly believe God created earth 6,000 years ago...

This is indicative of THEIR AGE!

When it comes to suggesting a date for the creation of the Earth, perhaps few people have been the butt of more ridicule on the subject from sceptics than Archbishop James Ussher. It was Ussher who in the 1650s put forward the idea that this occurred on October 23, 4004 BC, and this year appeared as a marginal note in many Bibles up until about the mid-20th century. So was Ussher a wise man, a charlatan, or just naive? And what should we think about his date?

Now you ask, how did he get the year 4004 BC?

Answer: He took the chronologies in Genesis 5 and 11,...

So was Ussher Right?
Ussher was neither charlatan nor naive; in fact, he was one of the most learned men of his day. Understanding the assumptions with which he began his calculations (particularly the one we should all begin with, namely that God’s Word is true and reliable), we can readily understand how he arrived at his date for creation. In fact, if one assumes that there are no deliberate ‘jumps’ or gaps in the later genealogies (for which the evidence in my view is inadequate), then his date is a perfectly reasonable deduction based on his detailed knowledge of and reverence for the Word of God.

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please, remember, the age of the earth was based mainly on Adam's genealogies.

later, this WILL be VERY important.

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Re: #2 6k yrs- CAUCASIAN X-tians agree w/Elijah...
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Some Christians believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. This is a
mistake. I believe the "6,000" years is the amount of time since the
making of th Biblical Adam, the Caucasians.

The story of Adam and Eve is about the Caucasian race, which has been
on earth for about 6,000 years.

CAN ANYONE PROVIDE "PROOF", THEY HAVE BEEN HERE LONGER?

this is not "racist". I only seek the truth.

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