Why don't christians follow the old testament teachings?

East_African · (#1 (**permalink**))

Many people on this forum accuse muslims of stealing christian teachings and being pagans,also being far from the teachings of jesus.I don't want to debate about christianity and islam.Rather why do christians not behave like jews,after all wasn't jesus a pious jew who said "i have only come to affirm the old laws"?

urbanorder · (#2 (**permalink**))

To perfectly answer this question why don't you research Saul and how he changed from Judasim to Christianity thus changing his name to Paul.

You will greatly welcomed if you decide to convert to christianity from a pagan religion.

jaziasha · (#3 (**permalink**))

urbanorder wrote:

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To perfectly answer this question why don't you research Saul and how he changed from Judasim to Christianity thus changing his name to Paul.

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Show me were the bible says that? In the bible when Shaul was on the road to Damascus Yahshua(jesus) called Shaul'sname in Hebrew. That's what the bible says. Show me where it says the above.

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Shalom.

Miyu · (#4 (**permalink**))

Why would you want me t follow a Jew fairy tale aka Torah and Zabib instead of the Gospel or the Quran? Is it because it came earlier?

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#5 (**permalink**))

Miyu wrote:

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Why would you want me t follow a Jew fairy tale aka Torah and Zabib instead of the Gospel or the Quran? Is it because it came earlier?

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If you acknowledge that the Hebrew story is a "fairy tale", then logical deduction both the Gospel and Qur'an are false as well. Therfore, you should not follow any of them.

The Watcher · (#6 (**permalink**))

East_African wrote:

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Many people on this forum accuse muslims of stealing christian teachings and being pagans,also being far from the teachings of jesus.I don't want to debate about christianity and islam.Rather why do christians not behave like jews,after all wasn't jesus a pious jew who said "i have only come to affirm the old laws"?

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Because Romans in the 1st century were hedonistic polytheists and the old testament was contrary to what they wanted to hear. Converting them was all about leaving bits and peices out and seducing them with the nice bits.

urbanorder · (#7 (**permalink**))

Acts 22:10 (Paul's first response to seeing the light)

Acts 17- 19 Saul was baptised

Acts 20 "At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God.

Happy to be of service"............

Justavoice · (#8 (**permalink**))

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Because Romans in the 1st century were hedonistic polytheists and the old testament was contrary to what they wanted to hear. Converting them was all about leaving bits and peices out and seducing them with the nice bits.

@Drunkmonkey

This is kind of true except for the seducing bit and leaving nice bits out. Paul had a balancing act to play.

It like a mixed race child, it might be african and european, it as to understand to cultures and the laws which governs those cultures that he/she might move amongst and between the two peoples without doing those things which might cause offense.

Paul became the vessel for which Christ would bring his message to the gentiles as he had roman citizenship and yet could claim is descent through the tribe of Benjamin. He knew the laws, customs, cultures of the two peoples.

When the argument for instance came regarding circumcision, Paul defended the gentiles, for the Jews thought it a requirement for the gentiles to be circumcized, but Paul told them such laws were not given to gentiles but that the law was given to the Israelites. It was something for them to observe not for the gentiles. The Gentiles were new to this and so different rules applied. Seeing Jesus is the gentiles Spiritual fatherand they knew no Fatherand no prophet ever sent to reveal God's oracles to them. They are engrafted into Israel spiritually, the circumcision is one that is Spiritual, circumcised in the heart rather than in the flesh.

What was happening was, God was about to go world wide, no longer just amongst Israel, but he was going global, to all nations and people in a way they had not been done before, and so certainlaws could not be placed on those people, especially the laws of Moses. Moses gave the laws to the Israelites it was for them to observe. Jesus gave the law of the Spirit to the world.

Liono · (#9 (**permalink**))

In which later Constintine made it legal.

jaziasha · (#10 (**permalink**))

urbanorder wrote:

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Acts 22:10 (Paul's first response to seeing the light)

Acts 17- 19 Saul was baptised

Acts 20 "At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God.

Happy to be of service"............

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You still didn't answer my question. So Shaul was baptised, But it does not say that he became a christian nor was his name changed. After Shaul was baptised they still called him Shaul. He was first calledpaul in Acts 13:9(It was only changed then because in the versesthat followthis one they tell the story of king Shaul and David and did not want people toget the two"Shauls" confused).Yahshua was a Yahudim(jew) and he died a Yahudim. He never said call yourselves christians when I die. That is something we did ourselves.

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P.S. Was Shaul a jew or a roman? And because you are born a jew does not mean that you practice judaism. There were many Yisraelites and jews that worship other gods thats the reason for them being punished so many times.

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Shalom.

HLF · (#11 (**permalink**))

Justavoice wrote:

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Because Romans in the 1st century were hedonistic polytheists and the old testament was contrary to what they wanted to hear. Converting them was all about leaving bits and peices out and seducing them with the nice bits.

Moses gave the laws to the Israelites it was for them to observe. Jesus gave the law of the Spirit to the world.

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Although the law that isknownof todaywas originally given to the Israelites, it still is the standard for all men; surely as there is only One true God, there is still Divine Law (and still existant) that no man is exempt from. Verily as the One true God has given us laws to make us upright and worthy of His blessings and salvation, He would never take laws away to make the lawful, lawless; for the lawless are unruly, headstrong and corruptible. His Divine Plan is to uplift us and make us spiritually and morally perfect, not degenerate us into impulsive, carnal animals. This is where belief does not hold up to the proof displayed within the world each and everyday; peoplebehave more like animals than humane beings when it comes to their actions.