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I found out some things i wish to share with most of you here .As you know rome has passed so many cannonical laws that have spawned a religion that shares the name name with God's true religion. This roman religion has fooled a lot of people due to ignorance and mental training. A lot of us practise a lot of these rituals without knowing their origins. The originate from the bowels of Hell, allow me to . If you follow the rules of rome this will be very hard to comprehend and as predictated i will probably be disregarded.

1. the cross a lot of christians wear today is nothing like the cross that Jesus was crusified on. The bible warns against idolatry and yet millions were this false cross . The cross millions wear today was found and verified by st helena(the name roman should tell you). Then successive romans wore the cross as the christian cross. The cross you wear today has pagan origins in egypt. So next time you bow down to it or make the sign of the cross know damn well you are bowing to someone who is destined for the lake of fire

2. The pagan holiday you call easter , in christianity it called passover but the romans came in under the council of nicea and changed the dates of passover to accomodate easter. Constantine changed the dates because of his anti semitic views on jews and accusing them of murdering Jesus. And the name easter comes from a anglo saxon goddess(romans) called IShtar , she is also called queen of heaven just like mary. Her son tammuz was surprisingly born on december 25th and died around easter . So next time you practice easter know damn well you are worshipping an anglo saxon goddess.

3. December 25th is a pagan holiday which signifies the birth of the sun. it was moved to december 25th to accomodate christians into pagan beliefs, guess what it really really worked.

4. Rome changed the laws of God (in their minds) Just like in the book of daniel it says the beast will try to change the laws of God. A lot were fooled and follow these roman rules. In 364ce the council of laodicea changed the sabbath commandment and moved it to sunday. Of course it was never moved man cannot change God's laws
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1. the cross a lot of christians wear today is nothing like the cross that Jesus was crusified on. The bible warns against idolatry and yet millions were this false cross . The cross millions wear today was found and verified by st helena(the name roman should tell you). Then successive romans wore the cross as the christian cross. The cross you wear today has pagan origins in egypt. So next time you bow down to it or make the sign of the cross know damn well you are bowing to someone who is destined for the lake of fire

2. The pagan holiday you call easter , in christianity it called passover but the romans came in under the council of nicea and changed the dates of passover to accomodate easter. Constantine changed the dates because of his anti semitic views on jews and accusing them of murdering Jesus. And the name easter comes from a anglo saxon goddess(romans) called IShtar , she is also called queen of heaven just like mary. Her son tammuz was surprisingly born on december 25th and died around easter . So next time you practice easter know damn well you are worshipping an anglo saxon goddess.

3. December 25th is a pagan holiday which signifies the birth of the sun. it was moved to december 25th to accomodate christians into pagan beliefs, guess what it really really worked.

4. Rome changed the laws of God (in their minds) Just like in the book of daniel it says the beast will try to change the laws of God. A lot were fooled and follow these roman rules. In 364ce the council of laodicea changed the sabbath commandment and moved it to sunday. Of course it was never moved man cannot change God's laws
I and many people who practise the religion of our ancestors know full well where the christian cross comes from and it does not come from any pagans. It is funny how christians are so happy to turn around and talk about how other people are pagans when they have no idea about how their religious text, the one they call the trus word of god was written. It was written based upon the teachings of those you call pagan, the ones who followed the only true religion of "God".

The romans who you seem to so despise are the people responsible for the text you are reading. All christian religions are spawned from that paganism. when you are attacking the faith of others you need to first think about how much of the faith you follow you can actually trust as your faith has gone through 2000 years of abuse from the original texts.

I also hope you do not have a king james bible and come here to attack my ancestral faith with such weighted words as pagan. King James was a known homosexual. His people considered him so much of a flaming homosexual that they called him queen james. He actually went before the parliament of the time to try and get them to stop making fun of him. To do this he made comparisons between the relationship of him and his partner, to the relationship between Jesus and John. He wrote that bible with the thought in his head that jesus was as gay as him. He then wrote a devil worshipping bible to complement the "authorised king james" bible.

Many subsequent bibles have come from or are influenced in some way by that king james bible.

The whole faith is shrouded in mystery and lies and the only way to truly understand the truth is to go back to it's earliest form, before roman tampering. You will find that you continually go back and you will end up with the faith of those you would brazenly call pagan with no knowledge of them or their spiritual identity.


seeing as i am sure the above will only cause a heated response I will urge you to look at the link presented below and if possible buy at least the DVD which debates the existence of Jesus before you start attacking the ancestors who knew "God" before the caucasians at the root of your religion could even speak.

http://kemetnu.com/

Browse the site and see what you find.


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This thread and the post that started it is evidence of internalized racism and self-hatred. It's a religion if you learned it from the cultureless, child molesting crackers(Christians) or the child molesting arabs (Mohammed the 11 year old girl lover), but it's PAGAN if it isn't?

Of course the cross and much of Christianity comes from Egypt. I'm one of those pagans, and so are ALL OF YOUR ANCESTORS. I see Massa done taught you all well. Black people in the US fought for 100 years after being brought here to hold onto our religions. It took 100 years for us to start worshipping that white effeminate sissy that you call jesus. No Afrikan in their right mind would worship some fool who tells you to love your enemies. DOES THE ANTELOPE LOVE THE LION? HE'D BE STUPID AS HELL IF HE DID. No Afrikan in their right mind would follow a "celibate" man with no wife and children who didn't like girls but LOVED TO KICK IT WITH THE MENS. And most Afrikans laughed (by the white missionaries own accounts) at the idea of a "leader" who sat up there and let people beat the shit out of him and then KILL him.

And now, Black people will come to blows with you over that white sissy and the child molester's handbook (Bible. Tell me why deuterotomy tells you to let people pay you to have sex with your children and then GIVE THE CHILD TO THEM so they can keep abusing them for life? AND IF ANY OF YOU SNIVELING SLAVES ARGUES WITH ME I WILL POST THE VERSE. SICK) and that stinking arab who called us "slaves with heads like dried grapes". Sick, sad world.
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I anticipated a bunch of misguided people would jump into this thread, lucky for you you are dealing with a brother that has done extensive work.

Now the origin of the cross comes from constantine and st helena. Of course the cross was something that was there before .the true cross looked nothing like what it is . IN egypt it was called the tau and some other name i will come back for. By the way in case you have problems pagan means something thats not of God. So if you justify yourself to worshipping some old religion because your ancestors worshipped it. And you ask if i have a king james bible. No i have the original scriptures all the books even the ones that were removed by the romans in 364 CE. I do not own roman bibles i own the original ones so there goes your lousy jibe. The romans are responsible for what your christians read today i can read hebrew so am pretty familiar how much deceit is instilled in you. And please do not say romans are christians they are babylonians hence the whore of babylon. babylonians enslaved black people not christians get it right. They enslaved us physically now its mental you follow their rules by celebrating their pagan holidays and sabbaths. And the religion am talking about is the one that was never tampered with , the religion Jesus left . Not the religion a bunch of egytians practised. And instead of being a blind follower of kemet nu ask those two where those symbols originated from in egypt and the connection to babylon , then look at vatican symbolism . See this is the misguidedness instilled into you by the europeans . netarians were pagans brother .I having the Ankh just instills you are babylonian . That wasn't a religion for black people . I sure hope you are egytian not a black african confused with himself thinking you are egyptian.


And for you brother hat i see the ignorance and hatred has blinded you well. That was the devils intention fool you into hating God for his crimes. You come off as someone who knows his history but am rather shocked you think Jesus is white? You must know white people were one of the last races to get hold of christianity. And you also must know Jesus was turned white around the time the whites joined christinaity . Maybe you should look at renaisance art and roman history its clearly documented .Maybe you have comprehension problems read my post again. You will see it says how religion was infiltrated by the romans to create a mystery religion which is called christianity but hails from hell. I think this is the religion you must be calling sissy's but of course you are one of the fooled ones. And with regards to your literal intepretation of the book of deutoronomy. Good you see you refer to your brothers as slaves i wonder who is really in your heart when you say that. Deutoronomy is a book in the hebrew bible or old testament. The scriptures are not to be read in a literal sense a lot of stuff from men has been incorporated into it. At the end of the bible it warns of addictions but it does not say there won't be any addittions, here you can use your common sense what came from God and what came from man clearly you have already deduced. You cannot take the scriptures that question morality in a literal sense . Men wrote the bible , men corrupted it but that does not invalidate it . From the scriptures i have now in hebrew to the bibles you own theres 100's of misintepretations . And in no way will this invalidate the bible. The devil mixes truth and lies only those with God in their hearts can really see whats from Men and whats from God . Post the text or verse i will look at my hebrew verses we'll see if your roman bible corresponds to what i have.
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I do not follow any Christian religion, I do not know where you have gotten that from. I do not follow any Egyptian religion I follow what you would termKemitic spirituality and if you looked at your history properly you would know the symbols such as the ankh which you are saying comes from babylon do not at all because they predate all literacy in caucasians, they predate babylon. Saying Pagan means not of god means that pagan is a relative term, those who do not believe in the god you worship to you are pagan, to a muslim you do not worship god and so you are a pagan according to your definition which by the way i do not agree with.

I suggest you look at the work of Ashra kwesi, although it is not the best it is fitting for someone as you who seems to be intellectually circumcised. If you did you would know that all of those scriptures that you hold are linked to the book of Im Pert Heru. That is where they come from. Your religion that you continue to preserve is of a true god is based on what you call paganism.

Before you start telling me about the earliest bible, tell me who wrote it, where did they come from and where did they get the ideas for their book.

And next time you address me I suggest you do so a little more courteously and contain the verbal diarrhoea that you seem to suffer from.


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Men wrote the bible , men corrupted it but that does not invalidate it. From the scriptures i have now in hebrew to the bibles you own theres 100's of misintepretations . And in no way will this invalidate the bible.


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If one understands the etymology of words like
religion (and symbolism of others like crucifix/crucify, Christianity, etc), one would understand that there is no such thing as true religion. There is such thing as true spirituality, which is an in-born part of melaninated people that has been redirected erroneously by religion, religion is supernatural or spiritual constraint, so is there a "true" path to supernatural or spiritual constraint when all of them bind people spiritually? The real test of what spirituality is true is which one fully awakens one's spirit to the whole truth.

Pagan holi-days are fake holy-days, which are suppose to be consecrated, set aside for observance by order of the One True God. Most if not all of the "holidays" are abominable by how they are used to make money. Holy days are suppose to be sacred, meaning essentially that they are not suppose to be treated like any other optional "business day", but the broadestgate is the gate to destruction.

The truth be told, pagan and polytheistic practices has become a tradition of mankind, not by any order of the One True God.For melaninated people, these practices have placed us in a lowly position globally, because we suppose to be consecrated unto the One God and worshipping Him so, notworshipping every other God of wood and stone like all the other people.

Know what the difference is between now and the ancient times? People knew who the One God was by name,Yahweh, but yet they still chose to worship all these other falseGods, which by default is pretty much worshipping Satan in deception. The sons of Noah knew about the name of Yahweh, even their descendents, butmany of them worshipped other Gods. The Egyptians knew about Yahweh andHis heavenly servants (angels) and fallen ones aswell from their forefather,Kham, but they worshipped other gods in addition to Him and even not Him at all, which eventuallyled to their desolation and lack of existence as theyorignally were as a nation.

Although the Egyptians once had advanced technology (few "history" books speak of that, because people would question "where did it come from?"), the tech and informationalresourcesweren't available global as they are now, so mankind reallyhas no excuses for not possessing knowledge of truth besides their own bliss comfort inignorance.


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I THINK ALL OF YOU SHOULD REVIEW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD

REGARDLESS TO WHAT YOU KNOW ()

THE INFORMATION IS STILL WORD OF MOUTH
ALL RELIGIONS HAVE ONCE SOURCE WHICH OTHER REIGIONS PICK PICK AT IF YOU FULLY AN I MEAN FULLY LOOK AT HTEMAN SOURCE THEN YOU WILL SEE WHAT H BEEN ADDEDDAN WHT HAS BEEN REMOVED

FOR ARGUMENT SAKE

MARYS LIFE IS SO SIMULAR TO iSIS'S OF THE (WHITE SETTLERS OF EGYPT) WHOM LIFE IS VERY VERY SIMULAR TO ASSET'S LIFE IN NUBIA

JESUS'S LIFE STORY (SOME OF IT) IS VERY VERY SIMULAR TO HORUS'S STORY WHO'S STORY VERY IS SIMULR TO THE AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY HERU

ALL SYMBOLOGY HAS BEEN MOVED ALONG IN THE SAME MANNER
FAITH AND BELIF SHOULD BE PUT ASIDE FOR FACTUAL INFORMATION
SHOULD YOU NOT WANT TO USE FACT THEN TEST YOUR BELIF AGAINST THE INFO ABOVE ANDTELL ME IF PAGANISM ( AS YOU CALL IT) DID NOT START THESE ONE GOD RELIGIONS

(BY THE WAY I MUST ADD THAT IT WAS ANKENATON (SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING) WHO CHANGED THE WORLD INTO MONOTHEISM OR AT LEAST GAVE THE WORLD THE CONCEPT OF IT BEFORE THEN THERE WAS A HEIRACHY SYSTEM IN PLACE WHE "PTAH" WAS SEEN THE "MOST HIGHT" OF THE GODS FOR GOD TO BE THE MOST HIGH HE MUST BECOMPARED TO SOMTHING ELSE BELOW))

IM NOT HERE TO ARGUE AS ALL OF THEBROTHERS/SISTERS AOVE HAVE PUT UP VERY VALID POINTS IM JUST HERE TO MERLY SHOW YOU GUYS AN ALTERNATIVE SCOPE ON WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE THE "TRUTH"

TIS SAD THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO LISTEN TO THEIR PARENTS AND NOT "QUEST"ION THE IN"FORM"ATION PRESENTED TO THEM IN A FAIR AND HONOURLY MANNER

OUR ANCESTERS GAVE US TOOLS BEYOND OUR WILDEST IMAGINATION THE BEST OF ALL THESE IS KNOWLEDGE WISDOM AND OVERSTANDING +BEING ANYLITICAL OF EVERYTHING
ANYLITICAL MINDS BUILT THE PYRIMIDS AND BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER TO CREATE HARMONY WITH THE ENVIRONMENT

NOT ARGUMENT OF WHO TO WORSHIP

GIVING THANKS IS THY WAY IT SHOULD BE
GIVING THANKS FOR LIFE
NOT FOR THE PROMISE OF HEAVEN OR THREATS OF SULPHUR AN TO BE GREATED BYA DUDE THAT LOOKS LIKE PAN (??)

IF YOUR GOOD YOU SHOUD B GOOD REGARDLESS OF THE THREAT O HELL FIRE

O YEAH CHECK OUT THE DECLORATIONS OF MA'AT THEN TELL ME BOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.......
THEN LOOK AT THE BOOK OF COMMING FORTH BY DAY AND NIGHT THE TELL ME BOUT JUDGEMENT DAY......

PLEASE RESPOND IN A MANNER SUITING
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I THINK ALL OF YOU SHOULD REVIEW EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD

REGARDLESS TO WHAT YOU KNOW ()

THE INFORMATION IS STILL WORD OF MOUTH
ALL RELIGIONS HAVE ONCE SOURCE WHICH OTHER REIGIONS PICK PICK AT IF YOU FULLY AN I MEAN FULLY LOOK AT HTEMAN SOURCE THEN YOU WILL SEE WHAT H BEEN ADDEDDAN WHT HAS BEEN REMOVED

FOR ARGUMENT SAKE

MARYS LIFE IS SO SIMULAR TO iSIS'S OF THE (WHITE SETTLERS OF EGYPT) WHOM LIFE IS VERY VERY SIMULAR TO ASSET'S LIFE IN NUBIA

JESUS'S LIFE STORY (SOME OF IT) IS VERY VERY SIMULAR TO HORUS'S STORY WHO'S STORY VERY IS SIMULR TO THE AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY HERU

ALL SYMBOLOGY HAS BEEN MOVED ALONG IN THE SAME MANNER
FAITH AND BELIF SHOULD BE PUT ASIDE FOR FACTUAL INFORMATION
SHOULD YOU NOT WANT TO USE FACT THEN TEST YOUR BELIF AGAINST THE INFO ABOVE ANDTELL ME IF PAGANISM ( AS YOU CALL IT) DID NOT START THESE ONE GOD RELIGIONS

(BY THE WAY I MUST ADD THAT IT WAS ANKENATON (SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING) WHO CHANGED THE WORLD INTO MONOTHEISM OR AT LEAST GAVE THE WORLD THE CONCEPT OF IT BEFORE THEN THERE WAS A HEIRACHY SYSTEM IN PLACE WHE "PTAH" WAS SEEN THE "MOST HIGHT" OF THE GODS FOR GOD TO BE THE MOST HIGH HE MUST BECOMPARED TO SOMTHING ELSE BELOW))

IM NOT HERE TO ARGUE AS ALL OF THEBROTHERS/SISTERS AOVE HAVE PUT UP VERY VALID POINTS IM JUST HERE TO MERLY SHOW YOU GUYS AN ALTERNATIVE SCOPE ON WHAT YOU SEEM TO BE THE "TRUTH"

TIS SAD THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO LISTEN TO THEIR PARENTS AND NOT "QUEST"ION THE IN"FORM"ATION PRESENTED TO THEM IN A FAIR AND HONOURLY MANNER

OUR ANCESTERS GAVE US TOOLS BEYOND OUR WILDEST IMAGINATION THE BEST OF ALL THESE IS KNOWLEDGE WISDOM AND OVERSTANDING +BEING ANYLITICAL OF EVERYTHING
ANYLITICAL MINDS BUILT THE PYRIMIDS AND BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER TO CREATE HARMONY WITH THE ENVIRONMENT

NOT ARGUMENT OF WHO TO WORSHIP

GIVING THANKS IS THY WAY IT SHOULD BE
GIVING THANKS FOR LIFE
NOT FOR THE PROMISE OF HEAVEN OR THREATS OF SULPHUR AN TO BE GREATED BYA DUDE THAT LOOKS LIKE PAN (??)

IF YOUR GOOD YOU SHOUD B GOOD REGARDLESS OF THE THREAT O HELL FIRE

O YEAH CHECK OUT THE DECLORATIONS OF MA'AT THEN TELL ME BOUT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.......
THEN LOOK AT THE BOOK OF COMMING FORTH BY DAY AND NIGHT THE TELL ME BOUT JUDGEMENT DAY......

PLEASE RESPOND IN A MANNER SUITING
HOTEP


Greetings, Im Hotep

You forgot the 42 declarations of purity but other than that I am with you the whole way.

Shem Hotep


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To my Brothers of the Kemet spirituality beliefs, if you have been on this site for a minute you know where I stand Spiritually. I have no religion because in the scope of things it counts for nothing but I have a question for you. Was Kemet the place where spirituallity began or religion for that matter? Is Kemet the began all when it comes to this subject?
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I am fully aware of the contributions of our people and would never knowingly take anything from them but I would like a answer to this question. Thank you.
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phonte wrote: The romans are responsible for what your christians read today i can read hebrew so am pretty familiar how much deceit is instilled in you.
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And the religion am talking about is the one that was never tampered with , the religion Jesus left . Not the religion a bunch of egytians practised.
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If you can read Hebrew then you would see that Romans, Chrisrianity and Jesus goes together and there is nothing Hebrew about any of it. If the Romans were responsible for much of the deceit and you can speak Hebrew why do you still callthe Black Mashiah by a Roman(GREEK) name? What religion did the Mashiah leave? What the Hebrews believed was here before and after the Mashiah left. He said it himself he did not come to change the Law. Please help me with some of this, I need to be learned.
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