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18-11-06, 08:47 PM
This thread is an outgrowth of a response in "Pagan rituals and symbolism in Contemporary religion":
phonte wrote: The romans are responsible for what your christians read today i can read hebrew so am pretty familiar how much deceit is instilled in you.
And the religion am talking about is the one that was never tampered with , the religion Jesus left . Not the religion a bunch of egytians practised.
jaziasha wrote: If you can read Hebrew then you would see that Romans, Chrisrianity and Jesus goes together and there is nothing Hebrew about any of it. If the Romans were responsible for much of the deceit and you can speak Hebrew why do you still call the Black Mashiah by a Roman(GREEK) name? What religion did the Mashiah leave? What the Hebrews believed was here before and after the Mashiah left. He said it himself he did not come to change the Law. Please help me with some of this, I need to be learned.
As knowledge of the truth spreads, I am beginning to notice something that may be a distortion or misinformation. For some it is known that the Word which was originally spoken orally in a Divinely-given tongue, then after some time written down, later the Word was to be transliterated from what the Greeks called Hebraios into the Greek language (i.e. the Septuagint) in addition to the addition of the Greek New Testament, a new addition to the work to what would later be known as the "Christian Bible", as well as various parts of the culture transculturated, by the Jews as their own.
The issue is so: The Hebrews and Israelites of old did not have a "New Testament" in their books, greek was a language that came later. I think the biggest distortion may be about just who the last messiah is, his purpose, his name and his role in the body of anointed ones, not just he as the only anointed one of Yahweh, in what is called the "Old Testament", the Hebrew spoken-written word in English contains many anointed ones or Christs with specific purposes.
1. I think the biggest error is who the messiah really is. The last messiah anointed by Yahweh was Joshua or Yahsua (english transliterization), who as leader, took the Israelites to the promised land of Caanan. Yahsua was from the line of Ephraim, a descendent of Joseph or Yoseph.
2. I have heard people call "Jesus" Yeshua or Yahshua, but one, the New Testament has no ancient Hebrew origin and two, Yeshua/Yahshua suppose to mean "Yahweh is salvation" which is the same meaning of Yahsua. They are not equivocal to me, for Yahsua spoke the name of God, Yahweh, as well as all the anointed prophets of the ancient times, this name was originally said and written in the Hebrew Word, the name of God was replaced by the tetragrammaton where LORD and GOD where in the Old Testament to hide the true name of God and thereby creating "religio", further spiritual constraint for mankind. The New Testament does not have that to fall back on, but people assume they are talking about the same God, Hebrew is a much more concrete language than that.
3. In the Hebrew Word and the Old Testament, it does not say concretely that Yeshua/Yahshua was the promised priest/king of Yahweh's kingdom.
The passage of Jeremiah 23:5 - 6 reads:
5"The days are coming," declares YHWH, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land.
6In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: YHWH Our Righteousness.
The priestly/king's name would mean, 'Yahweh our Righteousness', not 'Yahweh is Salvation'. His purpose was to rule over Yahweh's kingdom on earth under Yahweh, just as Yahweh promised David of the line of Judah that one of his descendents would sit upon the throne of Yahweh's Divine Kingdom in Psalms 132:11-12:
132:11
YHWH swore an oath to David, a sure oath that he will not revoke: "One of your own descendants I will place on your throne--
132:12
if your sons keep my covenant and the statutes I teach them, then their sons will sit on your throne for ever and ever."
4. Praising Yahweh in the name of Yahshua is a messianic-jewish precept/creation, not ancient Israelite. The ancient Israelites were suppose to worship Yahweh and no one else, that is what the patriarchs did and that is exactly what the prophets throughout chronology said to do. That is breaking a universal commandment of Yahweh in Exodus 20, (1)Having no other gods besides Yahweh and (2) also not bowing down in worship of any other. How people teach and pray to "Yahweh in the name of Yahshua", that is venerating Yahshua almost if not on par with Yahweh, which is wrong. Yahweh even communicated to Moses to tell the Israelites this in Exodus 20:22 - 23:
22 Then YHWH said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites this: 'You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven: 23 Do not make any gods to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold.
Yahweh is the Source strength of all the anointed messiahs and prophets of ancient days as well as the latter days, so none should be revered and spoken of more than Yahweh, the One True God of Absolute Truth, Salvation and Righteousness.
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21-11-06, 05:19 PM
HLF,
I understand what you are saying about people worshing Yahshua instead of Yahweh, that is something that I don't do. But are you saying that Yahshua is not the last promised Priest of Yahweh. You said that his name would be YHWH our righteousness which translates into Yahweh Tsidkenu so would Tsidkenu be the name of said Mashiah?
Shalom
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24-11-06, 08:50 PM
Yahtsidkenu or tsidkenu-yah, that is a prophecy of the book in Yeremiah from Yah himself, a declaration. When Yah says or foretells something, you will know it is the truth, for it is concrete and the message is precise, that is only one thing good about His holy language and words.
This information is important and knowing the whole truth is important. So many melaninated people have bibles but they do not read them, furthermore, they do not understand it fully. If people studied the bible in depth, the original languages of the testaments, what the two testaments speak and teach holistically and compare and constrast them together, the only thing that would stand is the truth, the coherence of the Hebrew Word and what little bit of truth the Greek New Testament draws from the Hebrew Word to pervert it into some other meaning and method of drawing people away from the God of the Hebrews, as clearly defined in thetypical dictionary, Yahweh.
So yes J, know the truth of the correct path to go, it will actually save your life and spirit in the harsher days to come. If you have been through anything and called on Yahweh to deliver you from it, you'll feel this.It has been clearly defined for melaninated people since ancient days and actually has not changed, but the problem is that melaninated people have not followed it and that is where the majority if not all of our problems come from, the spiritual level and the lack of true spirituality and true/whole spiritual awareness....but I know you are aware of this.
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