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19-11-06, 11:30 PM
minister craig g lewis and ex ministries
The Truth Behind Hip Hop 2 Exodus Into Egypt exposes the inner workings of the strategems of the enemy. The Word of the Lord declares that "My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge". God has given this ministry not only the knowledge but also the platform. Thousands have been changed through this powerful word directly from the throne. Experience the ministry that is responsible for packing auditoriums all over the country. This is sequel to The Truth Behind Hip Hop.
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i have been hearing loads about this dvd
many religious folk talking
i might go watch a viewing of it
its meant to be hard hitting
has anyone seen it? reviews?
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20-11-06, 09:12 PM
I found this: http://www.exministries.com/part3.html
I am not surprised about ths kind of information. I appreciate your sharing and I will eventually acquire the DVD.
I remember writing a piece May 3, 2006...
Afrika Bambaataa--Hip Hop Culture
Afrika Bambaataa (born Kevin Donovan April 17, 1957[1]) is a DJ and community leader from the South Bronx, who was instrumental in the early development of hip hop throughout the 1970s...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika_Bambaataa
The Markings
1. The music – This is the number one source of influence. This is the evangelical tool for spreading the spirit of hip-hop abroad. You can easily tell when youth are into gangsta rap and explicit lyrical content. They show it in the behavior and the choices they make in life.
2. The clothing – Sagging jeans, tight fitted tops and bottoms, gang related outfits, prison attire. These are the clothes that hip hop influences our teens to wear freely. What was once considered appropriate only for prostitutes and hardened criminals is now acceptable attire for our yout
3. The markings – Tattoos, piercing, strange hairstyles, gold teeth, vicious jewelry (dragons, dogs, snakes, etc) and the crucifix are all products of the hip hop culture. The devil wants our children marked like Cain, to show their pledge of allegiance to rebellion and self-gratification. These marking follow our youth and make it very hard to convert them back to their original identity.
4. The mentality – Hip-hop causes youth to be rebellious. To use foul language in public. To commit very strong sexual acts with other youth. To feel they have nothing to lose. To give up on their “good� values and take on the negativity of the hip hop culture.
http://exministries.com/truth.html
Origin
Is its origin rooted in voodoo and witchcraft straight out of Africa? You be the judge.
http://www.zulunation.com/afrika.html
In addition you might find this of interest as well: http://www.daveyd.com/hiphopdestroysblackarticle.html
 The Sibyls: the First Prophetess’ of Mami (Wata) by Mama Zogbé:  :
Alkebulan is the 'Cradle of Modern Civilization'
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22-11-06, 12:19 AM
Iwas born Christian, and yes I have seen the whole dvd. I am not sure what to think. At present I have to say I am kinda dwindling from my faith. I have many issues with christianity, which am not happy with questions which no one can answer.
Right now part of me is kinda holding onto Christianity as it is rooted deep in me, and my family, and at the same time part of me wants to chuck it in due to some unresolved issues, and the negative effect it is having on black people.
The dvd is very interesting. I will bullet point the issues he touches on
1. Touches on the gang aspect of hip hop music
2. Talks about how hip hop has made Christians lose their way
3. how the devil created hip hop to turn people to worship satan
4. How women are potrayed
5. attacks they way christian folk have literally allowed hip hop to enter the church
6. attacks many black pastors who defend hip hop, and who preach falshoods , and only care about money, eg td jakes
7. criticises the way in which hip hop artists albums are presented, i.e the devilish imagery in dmxs album, the withc craft potrayed in bone thus album
8. Criticises the 5% nation movement: india arie, common, maxwell, d,angelo, alicia keys, saying they are all devils music
9. Pays an audio cartoon from the wu tang website which shows the wu tang symbol in the form of a bat flying into a castle, then suddenly beheading Jesus
10. Goes into the way many artists try to present themselves as Gods, eg Snoop Dogg, jayz
11. Goes into how hiph op is now purely devil worship, and should be left alone
YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE TH DVD. MY BROTHER DOWNLOADED THE WHOLE THING
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22-11-06, 05:40 PM
im so keen to see this now
because its spiritual based critique as opposed to the other critiques of hiphop
the bit about the wu tang cartoon and Jesus seems quite bizarere but gioes to show how far symbols are around us
wonderful review judge j
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22-11-06, 10:44 PM
Intresting.
That Wu-Tang clip is more them taking things back to Egypt, I know they're into the whole 5% Nation bit but in their 5% Nation albums they take it back to Kemit and in that the story of Yesuahs ressurection is the story of Osiris & Horus. They see christianity as a religion thats beenenforced onto us and don't like it.Get the opinion that this is about twisting things into making certain artists seem like they're doing the, 'devils work' when in reality those artists are the ones with a message and are trying to encourage InI to pick up those history books and read more than anything.... I mean,Lauren Hill is another the Fugees are well into their African history they're not 5% but they dropknowledge into their music to reach out, do it on the sly so they still sell... does that mean that they're doing the devils work all of a sudden....?
No devil made hip hop what so ever, its been influenced by the wrong people who are into it for the money. Sorather than the spiritual, political message it used to bring across its ignorant and plays to the the european market more than our own.
Sounds like that old school colonial, ''what you're doing is evil, only our way is good'' type message to me.
Crack cocaine is to blame and prehaps the Jewish record execs... in general its the capitalist system corrupting just about everything as usual.
Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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22-11-06, 10:46 PM
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Bad clip.
Gotta love the American public speakers .lol.
Is its origin rooted in voodoo and witchcraft straight out of Africa? You be the judge.
Root cutting.
Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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23-11-06, 06:36 PM
still gonna go see it
so that i can form my own opinion
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23-11-06, 10:01 PM
Greetings all, Im Hotep
Watch what you hear in this DVD and make sure to do extensive research when you watch this DVD.
I was still a Christian and holding on tight like Judge J when I first watched this DVD and I almost threw away my extensive CD collection before I came to my senses.
This man misrepresents many things in this DVD. He makes it out as if when you listen to say an Erykah Badu track you will go out and start calling out 360 degrees and all that 5%er stuff.
Just remember that this man has his bias and when you look at it you will see that for yourself. If you are a strong believing Christian and you do not like academia too much you probably fall for this. If you believe in not taking mans word at face value you will research and find that he misrepresents many things. Especially the Ankh. His interpretation is ignorant at best. but watch for yourself.
PS as you can see I have my bias but mine is based on research. I should not tell anyone what to do but I urge you to even research what I have said. Many things Africans do and say in this day and age is so mixed up because Eurocentrism in all information outlets has led to our history being a huge chinese whisper. Watch out. I do not believe even i am impervious to this.
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24-11-06, 01:32 AM
This DVD has been around for a couple years and the publicity machine is still rolling. I tossed away my Erykah badu and pretty much my extensive collection of hip hop the same night. They say with any message you receive - take what is for you - not too long after watching it whilst out with some guys I was approached by people with the same belief structure presented in the DVD - I did my research and while my stance on hip hop flickered fora while- I realise yes there are a lot of references to egyptology and that whole hardcore side of things- I don't like it in poetry let alone music and I am more careful of who I listen to. I give the man credit for providing a very detailed expose on the subject and personally wish that other church leaders would at least do their research before they talk about hip hop before speaking to the youth. Whether you choose to respond positivly or negatively to the vew in the DVD is down to your own personal convictions.
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24-11-06, 01:44 AM
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This DVD has been around for a couple years and the publicity machine is still rolling. I tossed away my Erykah badu and pretty much my extensive collection of hip hop the same night. They say with any message you receive - take what is for you - not too long after watching it whilst out with some guys I was approached by people with the same belief structure presented in the DVD - I did my research and while my stance on hip hop flickered fora while- I realise yes there are a lot of references to egyptology and that whole hardcore side of things- I don't like it in poetry let alone music and I am more careful of who I listen to. I give the man credit for providing a very detailed expose on the subject and personally wish that other church leaders would at least do their research before they talk about hip hop before speaking to the youth. Whether you choose to respond positivly or negatively to the vew in the DVD is down to your own personal convictions.
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That's funny. Is there a lot of references to egyptology in Hip Hop and neo soul, or is it that many of the people he spoke about and most of the people responsible for "good hip hop" are members of the five per cent nation of gods and earths. I would suggest to you that you should research from the standpoint of the ancient kemetans. Most of the references in hip hop are to do with the 5% nation and not with ancient beliefs and that is where the mans research is completely flawed. He has crossed the two over. If I had a tenner for every christian who tried to tell me that the ankh I wear is demonic after watching that DVD thinking I am a 5%er I would be a very rich man. The fact of the matter is a lot of his research in that area was sloppy at best. He even tells you about the effects of music on the brain and that cannot be proven either. He used one source.
I do agree thata lot of hip hop is not good for anyone. I do not agree with his stance on neo soul at all.
I would like to know what your reason for throwing away your Erykah Badu is. I see no problem with the message she related in it. She told you about her religious beliefs, simple as.
If it was because of her alternative religious perspective (which has nothing to do with devil worship) would you do the same if the song was from a rasta talking about rastafarianism or a muslim talking about islam.
Just curious.
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24-11-06, 09:30 AM
Dam I am a Christian myself , but to be honest with you I have still kept all my music. I have all albums by many neo soul artists, and the Wu Tang, A Tribe Called Quest are probably my favourite artists of all time.
The way I see it its about self control. I don't allow myself to be influenced by hip hop music. Conscious artists are the only ones saying something empowering, and uplifting, I think its a good thing. We need more of these India Arie, Eryka badu characters to counter the slackness which is overly promoted.
What is wrong with a pro black message anyway?
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