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04-12-06, 11:13 AM
Ever wondered why there are so many splits in religion?
You got shias, sunnis, sufi muslims.
Then there are catholics, protestants, anglicans, orthodox christians.
Doesn't this dilute the word of God into man made edicts?
Are shia muslims 'real' muslims?
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04-12-06, 05:37 PM
Other than the realization that religions are perversions of the one spirituality, I would say a major cause is based in disagreements in the doctrine,which give a lot of meaning to sect(ion) and denomination. The important thing is that if it was the entire truth, one would think everyone would be in agreement, because the entire truth isn't subjective. Truth has a certain consistency after discerning beyond the "stuff" that swarms around it, confusing people to what it really is. Belief is very subjective because it is assumption. Truth can be described as the actuality, 'a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality' or 'something in accord (<-keyword)with fact or reality'. Fact being 'information presented as having objective reality', or 'the quality of being actual'. Reality being 'the quality or state of being real', 'the totality of real things and events'. I like this definition 'something that is neither derivative nor dependent but exists necessarily'; that ties right into objective purpose...I am side tracking a little. Do you see how truth, reality and fact are in accord with each other?
That is what religion lacks, that is because to be truthful, religion was never created to be in accord with the higher spiritualand divine good. Accord is many in one way or directionnot many in many different ways or directions. That is the biggest problem with one of the most simple solutions, yet many overlook it.
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04-12-06, 09:36 PM
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Ever wondered why there are so many splits in religion?
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Different people, different thinking. It's an inevitability.
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04-12-06, 11:36 PM
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Ever wondered why there are so many splits in religion?
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Different people, different thinking. It's an inevitability.
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Yeah but its the word of god...supposedly
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09-12-06, 06:48 PM
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Ever wondered why there are so many splits in religion?
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Notice the religions have many titles describing God, but no true concrete names? Know this, the actual and real word of God is perfect truth that does not contradict itself; truth is whole and anyone whopercieves the whole picture of truth of good heart, mind and spirit will see the same whole picture no matter what angle it is viewed from. The spiritual truth is what it has always been and will forever be, but religio (spiritualconstraint)fragments the truth and has added lies. How can someone who practice religio (not spirituality)have spiritual eyes topercieve the spiritual and thereby understand it?
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31-12-06, 01:52 AM
Scientifically speaking...
Everything of Matter is composed of Atoms, and we understand that Atoms are electrically charged particles; having both electrical (positive) and magnetic (negative) properties.
If A=B, and B=C, then A=C.
If everything of Matter is composed of Atoms,
And Atoms are electrically charged particles,
Then, Everything of Matter is composed of electrically charged particles, and is therefore Electrically Charged, itself.
Such is the Case with our Planet. It is well known that there is an Elecro-Magnetic field which surrounds our planet. Within this field there are no two points which have exactly the same charge. The further the distance between two points, the greater the difference in polarity, or electro-magnetic effect.
Therefore, Living things (which also are electrically charged) in one part of the earth's electro-magnetic field will be different from Living things in another part, because of the difference in polarity in each location. This is why, despite the fact that "one water" falls on our planet, that "one water" brings up different forms of life. The plant life in one part of the planet is different from the plant life in another part; and so it is with animal life; and so it is with people.
One Truth can be spread all over this planet, but there will be different interpretations of that One Truth, based on the uniqueness of each individual, and on the grouping together of similar (not same) perceptions in similar areas.
This contributes greatly to people on the same continent, of the same heritage, speaking different languages or dialects, or having different expressions, forming into different tribes or klans or Nations.
To be "different" is inevitable. This is not the "fault" of "religion". It is the nature of things. There are "splits" in religion, in politics, in education, even among African Nations or Tribes. The problem is not that there are differences or splits. The problem is in HOW WE HANDLE our differences.
There is a difference between UNITY and UNIFORMITY.
UNITY is possible, even among different groups;
UNIFORMITY is not only not natural, it is impossible.
Even among Traditional African Cultures, uniformity does not exist...there are divisions and splits...some of them violent. Religion did not do that. Lack of understanding among the people is the culprit.
In other words, the enemy is not "religion"...it is IGNORANCE.
If we would but study the Universe that we live in, we could find valuable insights with which we could solve many of our problems.
Salaam (Peace).
RM
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31-12-06, 05:10 PM
One Zero Seven wrote:
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One Truth can be spread all over this planet, but there will be different interpretations of that One Truth, based on the uniqueness of each individual, and on the grouping together of similar (not same) perceptions in similar areas.
This contributes greatly to people on the same continent, of the same heritage, speaking different languages or dialects, or having different expressions, forming into different tribes or klans or Nations.
To be "different" is inevitable. This is not the "fault" of "religion". It is the nature of things. There are "splits" in religion, in politics, in education, even among African Nations or Tribes. The problem is not that there are differences or splits. The problem is in HOW WE HANDLE our differences.
There is a difference between UNITY and UNIFORMITY.
UNITY is possible, even among different groups;
UNIFORMITY is not only not natural, it is impossible.
Even among Traditional African Cultures, uniformity does not exist...there are divisions and splits...some of them violent. Religion did not do that. Lack of understanding among the people is the culprit.
In other words, the enemy is not "religion"...it is IGNORANCE.
I had to get down to the point...right brain....first, I think if people were not stuck on ignorance and sought out the whole truth, they would understand that religion is a barrier to spirituality and higher/spiritual understanding. All people can be in spiritual unity. We all do have a spirit at our core, but the nature of that spirit and the awareness of that spirit is what makes the difference. As humane beings, particularly those with melanin, there is a lot of genetic variety among us, so yes uniformity in that sense is not naturally possible.....BUT, there are higher levels to this understanding, there are uniformities amongst the spirits, the supernatural. Positive and negative spirits as groupings do share a uniform native characteristic. Holisitically, spirits in unification (one/all) are spirits, but looking closer there is a divide in uniformity based in native characteristic, positive and negative.
The universal truth is uniform, but based on our individual spiritual awarness, we may not see it the same way; if one is in the valley and the other is in on the top of a mountain, could they both see the sun with the same clarity with the clouds and the dust covering the valley? If they both are on the mountain, they will both see the sun far more clearly. Interpretation may differ: One says it is warm, the other says that it gives light in the darkness, in reference to the universal spiritual truth, both are true and both viewers understand that the sun is warm and gives light, they both sense that and it is unavoidable fact to them both.
Now religion if different, religion is in the valley. One person might feel the warmth of the sun at one the section of the valley and another one does not.
The one who felt the sun's warmth says that the sun is a warm star. The one who did not feel the sun said it is only a star that gives no warmth, for he has never felt the sun, they disagree on the details but the core is true, but instead of getting that uniform understading, they go off into their own sections of the valley and don't really ever resolve the issues of their understanding. If they were both on the mountain, they would have had a clearer understanding.
That is the universal truth between spiritual awareness and unawareness.
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