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08-02-07, 11:18 PM
Hey, don't blame me, this is from the Talmud written in the 6th Century A.D. by the Jewish establishment on their interpretation of Genesis. For those who don't know,the Talmudis the Jewish/Hebrew commentary on the Bible. This is the origin of the Hamitic myth to justify the degradation of African peoples.
"Now I cannot beget the fourth son whose children I would have ordered to serve you and your brothers. Therefore, it must be Canaan, your first born, whom they enslave. And since you have disabled me doing ugly things in the blackness of night, Canaan children shall be born ugly and black. Moreover, because you twisted your head around to see my nakedness, your childrens hair shall be twisted in kinks and their eyes red. Again, because lips jested at my misfortune, theirs shall swell. And because you neglected my nakedness, they shall go naked and their male members shall be shamefully elongated. Men of this race are call Negroes. Their forefather, Canaan, commanded them to love theft and fornication; to be banded together in hatred of their masters and never to tell the truth."
(Quotation taken from “Hebrew Myths� by Graves and Patai, from following original religious sources: B Sanhedrin 72a-b, 108b, B. Pesahim 113b; Tanhuma Buber Gen. 49-50; Tanhuma Noah 13,15; Gen. Rab 341.)
So the Hebrew god, YHWH, made us have kinky hair, swollen lips, red eyes, "ugly and black", fornicators, and theives.
All of these things in the Talmud sound like all the egregious stereotypes Whites try to impress upon us to this very day. Thanks Yahweh. niceone.gif
A Luta Continua—Lasima Tushinde Mbilishaka
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09-02-07, 03:27 AM
Shemsi,
I feel you on this one...
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09-02-07, 11:04 AM
Oh come on....
this is from the Talmud written in the 6th Century A.D. by the Jewish establishment on their interpretation of Genesis. For those who don't know,the Talmudis the Jewish/Hebrew commentary on the Bible. This is the origin of the Hamitic myth to justify the degradation of African peoples.
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Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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09-02-07, 01:05 PM
Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:
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Hey, don't blame me, this is from the Talmud written in the 6th Century A.D. by the Jewish establishment on their interpretation of Genesis. For those who don't know,the Talmudis the Jewish/Hebrew commentary on the Bible. This is the origin of the Hamitic myth to justify the degradation of African peoples.
"Now I cannot beget the fourth son whose children I would have ordered to serve you and your brothers. Therefore, it must be Canaan, your first born, whom they enslave. And since you have disabled me doing ugly things in the blackness of night, Canaan children shall be born ugly and black. Moreover, because you twisted your head around to see my nakedness, your childrens hair shall be twisted in kinks and their eyes red. Again, because lips jested at my misfortune, theirs shall swell. And because you neglected my nakedness, they shall go naked and their male members shall be shamefully elongated. Men of this race are call Negroes. Their forefather, Canaan, commanded them to love theft and fornication; to be banded together in hatred of their masters and never to tell the truth."
(Quotation taken from “Hebrew Myths� by Graves and Patai, from following original religious sources: B Sanhedrin 72a-b, 108b, B. Pesahim 113b; Tanhuma Buber Gen. 49-50; Tanhuma Noah 13,15; Gen. Rab 341.)
So the Hebrew god, YHWH, made us have kinky hair, swollen lips, red eyes, "ugly and black", fornicators, and theives.
All of these things in the Talmud sound like all the egregious stereotypes Whites try to impress upon us to this very day. Thanks Yahweh. niceone.gif
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I already knew a bit about this silly book. There is a section in the Talmud that calls us a name, refers to Africans as cattle. Then there are the passages that promote paedophilia and justify it with African children. And people wonder why the Jewish have a paticular disliking of us. It is when they read this book. Shemsi, do you know where I can get a copy of this book or just which one is the best to buy because amazon is flooded with literature on this book and I do not know which one to get. I need ti to show people why we were considered children of ham for so long.
PS that bit I put in red is just pure jealousy right there.
If yuh spit inna di air it ah go fall inna yuh eye
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09-02-07, 02:02 PM
It's called the Tal-MUD for a reason.
I'd take books by Dr Seuss more seriously than that garbage.
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09-02-07, 05:47 PM
i'll just stick to the Bible and Jesus christ for any interpretation i need
Think outside of the box...Think in spirit
Act as if it were impossible to fail!!!
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12-02-07, 07:04 PM
Shemsi en Tehuti wrote:
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Hey, don't blame me, this is from the Talmud written in the 6th Century A.D. by the Jewish establishment on their interpretation of Genesis. For those who don't know,the Talmudis the Jewish/Hebrew commentary on the Bible. This is the origin of the Hamitic myth to justify the degradation of African peoples.
"Now I cannot beget the fourth son whose children I would have ordered to serve you and your brothers. Therefore, it must be Canaan, your first born, whom they enslave. And since you have disabled me doing ugly things in the blackness of night, Canaan children shall be born ugly and black. Moreover, because you twisted your head around to see my nakedness, your childrens hair shall be twisted in kinks and their eyes red. Again, because lips jested at my misfortune, theirs shall swell. And because you neglected my nakedness, they shall go naked and their male members shall be shamefully elongated. Men of this race are call Negroes. Their forefather, Canaan, commanded them to love theft and fornication; to be banded together in hatred of their masters and never to tell the truth."
(Quotation taken from “Hebrew Myths� by Graves and Patai, from following original religious sources: B Sanhedrin 72a-b, 108b, B. Pesahim 113b; Tanhuma Buber Gen. 49-50; Tanhuma Noah 13,15; Gen. Rab 341.)
So the Hebrew god, YHWH, made us have kinky hair, swollen lips, red eyes, "ugly and black", fornicators, and theives.
All of these things in the Talmud sound like all the egregious stereotypes Whites try to impress upon us to this very day. Thanks Yahweh. niceone.gif
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Come on Shemsi,
This is crazy and one of the reason history is so distorted. This may be what it says in this book or this translation of this book but this is in no way a reflection of who Yahweh is. As you say in the above this is the Jewish interpretation of Bereshith not what was actually written or the original books.
The jewish people of this era were not the children of Yahweh as they claimed any way and the Torah was wriiten hundreds of years before that.
The word jew was not even a word that the original Hebrews used because it didn't exist then. These people today are not chosen anything they are aping and anyone who can read knows it.
All of these things in the Talmud sound like all the egregious stereotypes Whites try to impress upon us to this very day. Thanks Yahweh
Yahweh has nothing to do with a group of people trying to rewrite history in their favor and at the same time degrade another people. This is merely man being man.
Shalom.
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12-02-07, 08:07 PM
Yahweh has nothing to do with a group of people trying to rewrite history in their favor and at the same time degrade another people. This is merely man being man.
Or Shemsi being Shemsi. lol
Be careful you don't inccur the wrath of the tetragrammon!
Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
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17-02-07, 06:12 PM
A very relevant two verses in reference to the descendents andthose who wrote the Talmud, John 8:39/44 - 39 They answered him, "Our father is Abraham." JC said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham."
44 You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn't stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father.
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27-09-07, 08:37 PM
correct me if i am wrong, but i would bet that you could find someone who has written a book or a paper supporting any point you wanted to make.
bar none.
any reader who is shocked, dismayed or loses their faith based on what is written without proof does not have faith and his belief is weak.
wicked man is clever and will make catch the weak easily in the snare.
black people be strong. what pray tell is wrong with thick lips or kinky hair or dark skin. if this angers you then you have fallen for the trick before you take a step.
straight hair and pointed noses and white skin is beautiful to who loves that.
louv your self what ever you are.
The need to appear correct becomes more important than the truth....JJRousseau]
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28-09-07, 03:00 PM
How refreshing to see that Black folk are starting to realize that there are conversations going on all around them, about them; and have been going on for a very long time. Just because we don’t read, doesn’t mean that there aren’t people writing things about us.
Even at this late date, most White people have no “Intimate” knowledge of Black people, just as most Black people have no “Intimate” knowledge of White people. So we all depend; to a certain extent; on what is written and said. So it is very important that we know what is being said, and correct it where necessary.
In the case of the Jews, we should already know who they really are: They are a Turkish people called Khazars. Just as the Romans (now Italians), took the Hebrew religion as a base (the Old Testament), and created a new religion called Christianity. The Khazars took the Hebrew Old Testament as a base and created the Talmud (their New Testament).
Now both religions pretty much ignore the Hebrew religion, and instead follow their new religions.
Understanding this history is extremely important for Black people; it is our religious power. Both of these offshoot religions are White, but at their base is the spiritual thinking of ancient Blacks, we must be aggressive in asserting that.
Do you think the racist idiot who wrote that nonsense could have done so, if the truth of who and what the Hebrew’s were, was universally known and accepted? Hell no: he would have been branded a fool immediately.
So every time someone like meKnow tells you: “Don’t worry children, turn the other cheek, you will get your reward in the end”. Tell him; ya I know, my butts still sore from the last time, and then ignore him. At every turn, we must fight these idiots with our greatest weapon: the truth!
However in this case, it all appears to be nothing but bullshit. Below is a link to an on-line Talmud: I couldn’t find anything relating to Blacks.
The Talmud
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