Me know, im not a poster who applys the "blacker than thou" rule simply because someone doesnt agree with my veiwpoint. Nothing more annoys here.

You asked me a question in reply to my orginal one. My original question was:

Is there a race that has taken this concept to the degree whites have or built their entire civilisation to date with this concept as a foundation? (Concept meaning the belief in racial supremacy)

You relied by asking:

What is the degree that you are talking about lemoor.

I gave you what i thought was a fair reply citing white supremacy as an example together with citing a list, ALL of which could have white supremacy attached as a core foundation to their matter. As a fair response for me to treat as credible, i expected you to either nullify my response by evidencing another group equal in nature or elaborate on why i could be innacurate. As you have done neither, after asking me the question, i can only conclude in the manner in which i did. I still feel the same way as you havent posted anything to make me feel any differently. What im trying to avoid is a pointless debate with any posters who conveniently avoid historical facts and cant evidence or stand by any of their viewpoints.

So ill take my initial engageemnt with you as hasty and ask you again.

Is there a race that has taken the concept of racial supremacy to the degree (see list above) whites have or built their modern day civilisation to date with this concept as a foundation?

I expect an answer of yes or no there is/isnt with evidence to support, or an answer indicating why i have been inaccurate in the example that i have used.

Here is the list you gave buddy.

400 yrs of slave trading, (gone)

Decades of Global Colonisation, (waning)

Apartheid, (waning)

Civil Right oppresion, (waning)

Lynching, (gone)

Institutiional racism, (waning)

International rape, piliage and murder, (can't give him this one exclusively, but waning)

Illegal debt profitering, (not exclusive to whites)

Illegal land ownership and occupation, (not exclusive)

Racist education systems, (definately not exclusive)

Right wing movements, (there are white left wingers also)

Nazi idealogy and genocide (trying to come back, but reviled as much by most whites as jews and blacks or anyone not white)

Racist legal systems, (not exclusive)

Racist Police and security forces, (not exclsive)

Scientific racism (????)

Anonymous Biological Warfare (???)

I won't ask you again to connect these movements over the periods of time shown to make us see that the white man has put all this effort in the white supremacy plan is still no farther along than he is. you give him much too much credit my friend.

as i said all these things are true and factual but you are stretching it try and wrap them into one movement or even a close one. in fact at best you could say that they are revivalist who find a book or two every now and then and try to rule the world. it will never happen bredder.

Now as for as any other race or nation being as attrocious I won't even challenge your knowledge of ancient history. the bit that we know. do you intend for us to accept that whites are the only *******s who did horrible things to people who differ in color. why would you even count out people who do these attrocities to people who look like themselves?

point is that whites who are in power are not concerned with sitting on porches and looking over fields where droves of workers are slaving in there fields. the rich don't care what color the workers are any more. man you are years behind what the powerful are up to.

they are banking on aero space setting up colonies away from this mess. if you have anything to fear it would be them continuing wars to thin out the population. I was employed in a business that employed 300 people 10 years ago and today we have less than 170 and our production is well over what the 300 did because of mechanism.

they have little use for the masses today. what will they do with us?

you are giving white far too much credit and you are making them look awefully dumb to try and do what you are trying to give them credit for....conundrum...

meknow;1446779]Here is the list you gave buddy.

400 yrs of slave trading, (gone)

Decades of Global Colonisation, (waning)

Apartheid, (waning)

Civil Right oppresion, (waning)

Lynching, (gone)

Institutiional racism, (waning)

International rape, piliage and murder, (can't give him this one exclusively, but waning)

Illegal debt profitering, (not exclusive to whites)

Illegal land ownership and occupation, (not exclusive)

Racist education systems, (definately not exclusive)

Right wing movements, (there are white left wingers also)

Nazi idealogy and genocide (trying to come back, but reviled as much by most whites as jews and blacks or anyone not white)

Racist legal systems, (not exclusive)

Racist Police and security forces, (not exclsive)

Scientific racism (????)

Anonymous Biological Warfare (???)

Why the words in brackets as if anybody wasn't aware of the points you've made. You seem to be having a problem with remembering why the above list was posted. That being once AGAIN, to evidence a DEGREE of racial supremacy attributed to a particular group. So why are you making statements like "not exclusive?" Did i say anywhere that these points were exclusive, or was i asking you to measure them collectively to result in an overall picture giving the DEGREE of belief in a system.? I know you're not thick, so stop covering ground as if you are.

I won't ask you again to connect these movements over the periods of time shown to make us see that the white man has put all this effort in the white supremacy plan is still no farther along than he is. you give him much too much credit my friend.

Cant see how this list is anything to be proud of, so the word CREDIT isnt one i would associate with 'HIM'.

as i said all these things are true and factual but you are stretching it try and wrap them into one movement or even a close one. in fact at best you could say that they are revivalist who find a book or two every now and then and try to rule the world. it will never happen bredder.

Correct, true and factual as well the FACT that each item on the list can easily be associated with the belief in a racial superiority system. Havent got a clue what else you are getting at as these two key factors are all that i see relvant to the question YOU asked.

Now as for as any other race or nation being as attrocious I won't even challenge your knowledge of ancient history. the bit that we know. do you intend for us to accept that whites are the only *******s who did horrible things to people who differ in color. why would you even count out people who do these attrocities to people who look like themselves?

Again i cant remember stating anywhere that attrocities where exclusive to anyone or that tribal incidents never occurred as part of anyones history. I would prefer if you were to use ancient history that we know about instead of hiding amongst your words. The topic, as you seem to keep forgetting, is "Is there a group of people that have used the belief system of racial superiorty to the degree that white Europeans have.?"

point is that whites who are in power are not concerned with sitting on porches and looking over fields where droves of workers are slaving in there fields. the rich don't care what color the workers are any more. man you are years behind what the powerful are up to.

I thought i acknowleged earlier that slavery became redundant ages ago, citing there are now more sophisticated methods to keep the belief system ticking along nicley, with less mess. The fact you've stated this again makes me highly suspious of you. Why state a totally immaterial point not just once but twice..

they are banking on aero space setting up colonies away from this mess. if you have anything to fear it would be them continuing wars to thin out the population. I was employed in a business that employed 300 people 10 years ago and today we have less than 170 and our production is well over what the 300 did because of mechanism.

Fish and price..

they have little use for the masses today. what will they do with us?

Your point in connection to our engagement is what?....

you are giving white far too much credit and you are making them look awefully dumb to try and do what you are trying to give them credit for....conundrum...[/quote]

Really...

you seem to not be able to show me what relavence a white supremacy would do even for white people lemoor.

you have simply given facts about events and movements in history and connected them in no way except to state that because whites were mainly the purveyors of these in particular that they fit in the conspiracy that you believe is afoot now.

you have jumped to conclusions before as i have also by going to the past rather than telling me what is the magnitude (degree) of this white supremacy that you believe is threatening blacks and God knows who else. as we clearly see you can not connect those past movements and events with any factual evidence except white skin lemoor. and you want to make it seem as if i am avoiding points you are making.

you and abd and others are making some serious charges and abd has even come to mention warfare. i am an able bodied person and have grand children as well as children. you want people like me to go to war then simply give us the facts of what the threat is and what is your plan to defeat it.

I certain know well that you are not the first or only who are advocating a race war. there are whites and other's of different races who have succumed to the same conclusion. so i am certainly not surprised.

i simply find it ludicrous to think that anyone could even concieve of world domination in this time. as simple as it sounds the question still is why?

I know that this sounded great to alexander, the romans, some of the pharoahs, a few khans, kings here and there, even hitler. and to a lesser degree idi, et al...

but world domination is not something that anyone would want to be held captive by sir. you have yet to get past the science fiction and oppression rhetoric you have been enamored with.

no one will enslave or dominate me.

Remember this lemoor as a Christian I will not be here to see the ruler that you fear who is yet to come. he may be a white man but race will mean little to him. when millions go missing upon the earth and you look to an answer he will give it to you.

in the mean while you would do well to teach blacks to save and by land. to not loose the ability to go back to the earth and survive. economics is the weapon of warfare right now. rising gas prices and home mortages will take down quite a few not only of blacks. i was in a store this evening and it is very noticable in the prices of what is taking place.

can you hunt and fish. do you know where fresh water is. can you survive in the winter if the economy changes? that is what you better be teaching. in America you have plenty of fools who will be jonesing and parasites because they believe like you that the white man is out to get them so they refuse to beat him at his own game and result to the under world. prison psychology has taken many of them out.

reality is on the ground right where you are standing or sitting. you are way late lemoor. i was at southern university when ali came through, while rap brown was there. l was in oakland during the early 70s, i saw the panthers go down to drugs and jealousy. saw the muslim movement NOI with the bean pies.

you are late brother. things are way ahead of you. the white man could care less about supremacy. those who are on the top are of all colors. and they have all in their system. muslims are heavily involved my friend. OPEC is a part of what you are trying to call white supremacy. there are Africans who sit on the boards. the lust for money has shaken the arab and muslim world.

my whole point is that it is not about white supremacy but about the world economy which is color blind except for green.

you believe what you want. the truth is clear.

meknow;1446789]you seem to not be able to show me what relavence a white supremacy would do even for white people lemoor.

Why would i need to elaborate on such a basic premise akin to asking what can money do for you?

you have simply given facts about events and movements in history and connected them in no way except to state that because whites were mainly the purveyors of these in particular that they fit in the conspiracy that you believe is afoot now. you have jumped to conclusions before as i have also by going to the past rather than telling me what is the magnitude (degree) of this white supremacy that you believe is threatening blacks and God knows who else. as we clearly see you can not connect those past movements and events with any factual evidence except white skin lemoor. and you want to make it seem as if i am avoiding points you are making.

Have you ever ridden the London Eye. Please do if you get the chance and you'll catch an interesting site. Try observering the concentration of white brick buildings which form a circle around the central regions of London. These particular materials are the very best used in construction and Civil Engineering, been standing as far back as one and half centuries ago. Ask the tour guide, at this point, what events took place that helped provide the main source of income to finance the purchase of these very best materials. Then ask him whether its a conspiracy or indeed very factual that events like this, that had white supremacy as a foundation, helped shape the course of time to its present state.

you and abd and others are making some serious charges and abd has even come to mention warfare. i am an able bodied person and have grand children as well as children. you want people like me to go to war then simply give us the facts of what the threat is and what is your plan to defeat it. I certain know well that you are not the first or only who are advocating a race war. there are whites and other's of different races who have succumed to the same conclusion. so i am certainly not surprised. i simply find it ludicrous to think that anyone could even concieve of world domination in this time. as simple as it sounds the question still is why? I know that this sounded great to alexander, the romans, some of the pharoahs, a few khans, kings here and there, even hitler. and to a lesser degree idi, et al...but world domination is not something that anyone would want to be held captive by sir. you have yet to get past the science fiction and oppression rhetoric you have been enamored with. no one will enslave or dominate me.

Remember this lemoor as a Christian I will not be here to see the ruler that you fear who is yet to come. he may be a white man but race will mean little to him. when millions go missing upon the earth and you look to an answer he will give it to you.

in the mean while you would do well to teach blacks to save and by land. to not loose the ability to go back to the earth and survive. economics is the weapon of warfare right now. rising gas prices and home mortages will take down quite a few not only of blacks. i was in a store this evening and it is very noticable in the prices of what is taking place.

can you hunt and fish. do you know where fresh water is. can you survive in the winter if the economy changes? that is what you better be teaching. in America you have plenty of fools who will be jonesing and parasites because they believe like you that the white man is out to get them so they refuse to beat him at his own game and result to the under world. prison psychology has taken many of them out.

reality is on the ground right where you are standing or sitting. you are way late lemoor. i was at southern university when ali came through, while rap brown was there. l was in oakland during the early 70s, i saw the panthers go down to drugs and jealousy. saw the muslim movement NOI with the bean pies.

you are late brother. things are way ahead of you. the white man could care less about supremacy. those who are on the top are of all colors. and they have all in their system. muslims are heavily involved my friend. OPEC is a part of what you are trying to call white supremacy. there are Africans who sit on the boards. the lust for money has shaken the arab and muslim world.

my whole point is that it is not about white supremacy but about the world economy which is color blind except for green.

you believe what you want. the truth is clear.[/quote]

LOL.....What i believe is that you and i are from 2 total different planets. I can safely tell you i was born and raised on planet Earth, how about you?

Ive ignorned the latter part of your post as 1, it has nothing to do with our original engagement and 2, its concrete evidence if i ever saw some, that you're here to do nothing other than wind posters up.

be that as it may lemoor.

we do see things different on this thread for sure. but you do not control what is acceptable and what is not. you brought forth a premise and i questioned the validity and reasoning.

now you believe that you have evidenced it by bringing a dozen or so historical occurances and movements that span 100's of years. and i asked for evidence that linked them. you refuse because you want me to give you people than whites who have done as much.

what (think ress here) relevance does other color people have on whether or not there is a white supremacy plan in action?

i can understand that you don't have a rational arguement for why anyone would want to rule the world today. i understand bredder.

all you have to do is go back and read the thread lemoor.

i asked the question about degrees in line with the thread. it is you who has insisted that i you names of people who are as notorious as you say that the [sic] conspiracy over the period time represented by the dozen or so events.

this is your way of trying to avoid presenting evidence tying all these events with the what seems to be failed white supremacy plan.

and you can not give a valid rational reason that anyone would want to play world domination in this point and time.

i am off to church bredder. be back later.