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Brother when you get Robert Mugabe and the other leaders of the countries of Africa then I will be glad to give of my tyme and money. plant all the trees you want, the harvest will now go to the big boys and the people won't see a thing.
We already have Brother President Bob. In fact, we were him long before he came to power.

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Been here before, done this before.

I have done some serious work to prove that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) is not no white man. In fact, it seems everytime I come to this part about spirituality, I end up with the same exact problem.

For those who can dig their heads out of Mr Charley's behind long enough to study and think, check out these posts: Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia. You will notice that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) is a direct, biological descendant of the Holy Prophetsss Hagar (Peace and Blessings be upon her). You half-cooked Bible scholars will probably lie about the fact that evcen The King James Version of the Bible mentions that Hagar (Peace and Blessings be upon him) is an African. It may come as a surprise to some, but there were no white Africans in Biblical times.

My most distant female or male ancestor can be Russian, but would generations of miscegenation with African blood still make me "White". Likewise, the converse would be just as absurd. Even if you believed in the Abraham story with Hagar, which is absurd in itself of them having an Egyptian slave, the centuries of mixing with "whites" would make them almost indistinguishable from other Whites. Perfect example is the European Jewish people. Most of the time, they are indistinguishable from other Euros. Therefore, Muhammad was in all likelihood a "white" man.


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Would a "racist" utter these words?

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not therefore do injustice to yourselves. Remember one day you will meet Allah and answer your deeds. So beware: do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone."

Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) Last Sermon

Uh huh...talk is cheap. What did Muhammad and his followers practice? Why were Africans the only people of whom they enslaved that they castrated? Not just some, but all men. To find your answer as to why Muhammad (as a "white" man) saw to this can be further explained in The Isis Papers: Keys to the Colors by Dr. Frances Cress Welsing.


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meknow you cant take Shemsi as a credible and sincere source of information......

He has 'issues' that he plays out on this forum.....

He's NOT here to bring about enlightenment, but to stunt the intellectual growth of others....by subjecting people to his personal sentiments and psycho-social ills....

But I must admit him and Fine can sure keep the threads going

LOL...more Muslim Shyt Revealed...anyone who reads the thread can easily see that your efforts were the only ones that stunted intellectual growth. Then when you can't match my wit or resourcefulness you resort to name calling...how pathetic...


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I cannot over-emphasize the fact that Islam cannot be compared to Christianity or even to Judaism whenit comes to racism. Racism is an invention of Europeans. In fact, I think it first appeared in a serious way with emergence of the King James Version of the Bible. Both racism and the KJV were meant to establish white supremacy. Thus, the prophets were depicted as white men. Muslims never show images of prophets, (Peace and Blessings be upon them asll) So, we can be sure that this non-sense about Muhaamd's (Peace and Blessings be upon him) skin color is not from Muslims, but enemies of Muslims. I know enimity is a strong word. But, when see so much mischief against Islam, I do not know of a better word to describe this non-sense. Why do Africans have to enemies to one another?

This would be funny if it wasn't so egregiously wrong. "Racism" did not start in Europe; perhaps the formal analytical dissection of it, but it has been on this earth since about 4000 BCE since the advent of the Indo-European or "White" man, and subsequent bas.tard-child, the Semite (Arabs, Hebrews, etc.). Can we for once use some common sense here when it comes to the origin of racism?

There is no question that the first man was out of Africa, and all men on Earth in Africa and Asia were of the black or brown skin hue. How then could a tiny group of people out of northwest Eurasia, mutate/adapt (through the Ice Age) to have "white" skin, then destroy each civilization in Asia while maintaining White Dominance? If they would have mixed peacefully with those already on Earth, then they would not exist today in the same capacity, as everyone would have been at least brown. However, they had to systematically kill, rape, murder, and exploit people based on darker skin color lest they would have either stayed small or died out. That isn't what happened. The Arab/Semite is a product of "white" infiltration into Classical Black Civilizations in Asia, destroying them with the subsequent product of the Arab to move on to destroy the next Black Civilization...which is why their culture is nomadic because they never had a civilization of their own. They started with Sumer, then the Chaldeas, then ancient China, then the Indus Valley (ancient India), then Mesopotamia, and it goes on and on until they successfully penetrated Africa via the Nile Valley after centuries of incursions. It hasn't stopped today and has persisted for 6,000 years and counting.

The more pronounced "white" skinned Indo-Europeans simply went West and North into Europe killing off the indigenous darker people who had not suffered mutation from extreme Ice Age effects. There is ample archaeological evidence of the original Druids (people in Ireland), France, and Britain being a "black" people as described by the Romans and other European conquerors/expeditionists. Why didn't the "whites" live in peace with these ancient Britons, inhabitants of present-day France and Ireland instead of just killing (as they did with the Native Americans)? For the same reason of fear of white genetic annihilation...essentially they have a racially-imbued psychopathic paranoia which is much older than a few hundred years when the Euros developed enough reasoning capacity to make a formal analysis of it.


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My most distant female or male ancestor can be Russian, but would generations of miscegenation with African blood still make me "White". Likewise, the converse would be just as absurd. Even if you believed in the Abraham story with Hagar, which is absurd in itself of them having an Egyptian slave, the centuries of mixing with "whites" would make them almost indistinguishable from other Whites. Perfect example is the European Jewish people. Most of the time, they are indistinguishable from other Euros. Therefore, Muhammad was in all likelihood a "white" man.
A couple of points are in order. First, North Africa is relatively close to Europe. This explains why there are mixtures between Norht Africans or Arabs and Europeans. The Christian Crusades was one big example of Europeans coming into Africa and staying there as Africans and Arabs. We also see much mixture of Eueopeans with African blood. The Italians who are just across the sea from North Africa, are defeinitely dark in complexion, especially the Sicalians. The same is true of Southern Spain. There were several hundreds of years of African rule in Spain. Even today, we see not only a dark complexion, but also many culural elements that derive from Africa. For instance, Mexican music has a strong string intrument influence which reflects Africa; and a strong beat, again refecting Africa.

The other point is this: Muslims never depict the actually appearance of any of the prophets (Peace and Blessings be upon them all) so as to avoid adolatry. But, there are reports coming down to us that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessins be upon him) had a very fair or whitish complexion. But, his other fearures were definitiely African. Furhtermore, many of the closeest people around him were definitely full-blooded Africans. This includeds most of his closest friends and relatives. For instance, his foster mother was defeintely an African (Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia) Likewise his son-in-law Umar who became Islam's Second Caliph. Most of us are familiar with Bilal (May Allah be plesed with him). But Muhammad (Peace abd Blessings be upon him) was surrounded by many full-Blooded Africans. This included at least one of his wives. Thus, we see today that all of those who claim direct descent fromt Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) are clearly of African descent. For instance King Hasan of Morroco (Hassan II of Morocco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). King Huesein of Jordan (Online NewsHour -- Remembering King Hussein: A Man of Peace) and King Abdullah of Saudia Arabia. To prove the point even clearer, take a look at the Prince Bandar who is darker than most of his family members (Bandar bin Sultan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and frontline: looking for answers: interviews: prince bandar bin sultan and BBC NEWS | Middle East | Profile: Prince Bandar) President Sadat also proves the point (Anwar El Sadat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

In my own family, my immediate relatives range in complexion of virtually white to the blackest black I have ever seen. This occurs in every generation from my great grand parents to my grand children. There is no set of siblings with the same mother and father who are exactly the smae complexion. This is all the more significant since we have no known European blood in our family. It is clear that our African ancestors had a similar color variation in their family. As we observe the refugees arriving here from Africa, form such places as Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea and Sudan, we see similar color variations. So, to me personally, I have never thought of Africanness in terms of skin color. That is about the most stupid expression of racism that I know.

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Default Garbage In...Garbage Out...... - 28-11-07, 08:50 PM

ole dusty azz notes.....and broken reading glasses...with Scotch Tape holding them together....

Shemsi, bro, you dont have nuthin but negative funky breath, rotten teeth, egotistical sentiment...thats it....

Everytime you get your wig adjustment you run away for about 3 weeks to a month, then come back with the same ole tired azz arguments.....

Get with Runoko...he wrote the lineage for you in 'African Presence in Early Asia' page 287.....

You dont realize how silly you look regurgitating this garbage....damn your research is outdated!

Its the 21st century...NOT the 20th....let me help you.....



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ole dusty azz notes.....and broken reading glasses...with Scotch Tape holding them together....

Shemsi, bro, you dont have nuthin but negative funky breath, rotten teeth, egotistical sentiment...thats it....

Everytime you get your wig adjustment you run away for about 3 weeks to a month, then come back with the same ole tired azz arguments.....

Get with Runoko...he wrote the lineage for you in 'African Presence in Early Asia' page 287.....

You dont realize how silly you look regurgitating this garbage....damn your research is outdated!

Its the 21st century...NOT the 20th....let me help you.....



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The Original Black African Arabs of Arabia (Part 2) — Ogu Eji-Ofo Annu
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The Original Black African Arabs of Arabia (Part 3: Black African Kingdoms of Arabia) — Ogu Eji-Ofo Anu
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A couple of points are in order. First, North Africa is relatively close to Europe. This explains why there are mixtures between Norht Africans or Arabs and Europeans. The Christian Crusades was one big example of Europeans coming into Africa and staying there as Africans and Arabs. We also see much mixture of Eueopeans with African blood. The Italians who are just across the sea from North Africa, are defeinitely dark in complexion, especially the Sicalians. The same is true of Southern Spain. There were several hundreds of years of African rule in Spain. Even today, we see not only a dark complexion, but also many culural elements that derive from Africa. For instance, Mexican music has a strong string intrument influence which reflects Africa; and a strong beat, again refecting Africa.

The other point is this: Muslims never depict the actually appearance of any of the prophets (Peace and Blessings be upon them all) so as to avoid adolatry. But, there are reports coming down to us that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessins be upon him) had a very fair or whitish complexion. But, his other fearures were definitiely African. Furhtermore, many of the closeest people around him were definitely full-blooded Africans. This includeds most of his closest friends and relatives. For instance, his foster mother was defeintely an African (Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia) Likewise his son-in-law Umar who became Islam's Second Caliph. Most of us are familiar with Bilal (May Allah be plesed with him). But Muhammad (Peace abd Blessings be upon him) was surrounded by many full-Blooded Africans. This included at least one of his wives. Thus, we see today that all of those who claim direct descent fromt Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon him) are clearly of African descent. For instance King Hasan of Morroco (Hassan II of Morocco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). King Huesein of Jordan (Online NewsHour -- Remembering King Hussein: A Man of Peace) and King Abdullah of Saudia Arabia. To prove the point even clearer, take a look at the Prince Bandar who is darker than most of his family members (Bandar bin Sultan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and frontline: looking for answers: interviews: prince bandar bin sultan and BBC NEWS | Middle East | Profile: Prince Bandar) President Sadat also proves the point (Anwar El Sadat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

In my own family, my immediate relatives range in complexion of virtually white to the blackest black I have ever seen. This occurs in every generation from my great grand parents to my grand children. There is no set of siblings with the same mother and father who are exactly the smae complexion. This is all the more significant since we have no known European blood in our family. It is clear that our African ancestors had a similar color variation in their family. As we observe the refugees arriving here from Africa, form such places as Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea and Sudan, we see similar color variations. So, to me personally, I have never thought of Africanness in terms of skin color. That is about the most stupid expression of racism that I know.


.................."personally, I have never thought of Africanness in terms of skin color. That is about the most stupid expression of racism that I know

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