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12-05-07, 06:28 PM
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“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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13-05-07, 12:58 AM
By nature, no. But have not the Egyptians served many other gods, ones that could not protect nor insure their existence as a nation, and forgotten the God of their principle forefather, which at one ancient time all called upon?
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13-05-07, 02:43 AM
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What in the world are you talking about? If longevity is the benchmark for the potency of a people’s god or gods, then the Egyptian gods have Yahweh beat by a factor of about 8 to 1. In case you have forgotten, the Egyptian civilization is by far the longest-lived civilization in Human history. There are still a few Egyptians left in Egypt, but for all intents, Hebrew’s are an extinct people.
As to Apedemak's question - Whatever your definition of evil may be, the belief or lack of belief, in a particular god or gods, does not make a person good or bad. ThatSpaniardor Portuguese,whofirstmadeyourforefather aslave, was devoutly religious, as is that Muslin who wants to Blow you up.
In my own opinion, it is that preacher, priest or Imam,who tells you that belief in a particular god, and not eating a particular food, is what makes YOU a good person, and all others who don't do as he says are evil, it is he, who is really thetrulyevilperson. By the way: has anyone ever heard of an Atheist Robbing, Raping or Blowing people up? Seems that is the sort of thing that the media would really jump on. Egyptians were just like us, except that they might have been a bit smarter.
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14-05-07, 12:01 PM
But look at what they've done...
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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15-05-07, 12:18 AM
Hey; they lasted a long time, and if not for those crazy-ass Persians, they might still be with us today. And that would have kept Europeans out of Africa.
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15-05-07, 11:52 AM
You think?
They were a bunch of show offs, flashy bstards, swear they were the most materialistic nation on planet earth and look where it got us. Dyamn Arabs and caucasians wouldn't have been able to attack us if the Kamu weren't so flashy, sharing everything with the Greeks and others... what, didn't they think they would attack them and use their own knowledge against them? Oh yeah, how enlightened, school up a bunch of desert rats and watch themtwist versions of your way of life blkclap
If they were such masters of everything why didn't they forsee the consequences of their actions?
Makes me thinkthey weren't so great anyway... Egypt was like a learning center, people brought their wisdom and knowledge there for others to mull over, concepts were shared and because it all happened there people think the Kamu were all that.
They more or less brought us into this mess, they gave the devil his tools and the Moors woke him up.
They're both a bunch of idtiots. God should've smited theegyptiansfor being so cocky.
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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15-05-07, 03:06 PM
It's hard to argue with you because certainly mistakes were made. As to the Greeks, it's got to be difficult to refuse to help people that worship you, and I thing that's how the Greeks got over. And you're right; it was the Meshwesh/Berbers/Moors (whichever name you like), who really opened the floodgates for the Greeks. But how come you have no blame for the Persians, it was really their foolish ways that brought everything to an end; they're really the ones who caused the collapse of Black rule.Plus: I don’t think that the ancient Black rulers of the world, ever really considered Whites to be capable of posing a serious threat to them or their rule.
But I’d like to go off in a slightly different direction now: Have you ever wondered when racism as we know it began? The other night, I was watching a TV Program about some headless Roman bodies found in York. The bodies were dated to the reign of Severus and his sons Caracalla and Geta (ca. 200 A.D.). What was interesting about the program was that it accurately showed Black Roman soldiers and commanders: As well as the fact that Geta – the Emperor to be - was half Black, (unfortunately they couldn’t go all the way, and show his mother as Black). Is it just a coincidence, or did this stuff only start showing up since the realhistoryww site came on-line, are they now covering their Asses?
Before that: I was looking through the realhistoryww site and saw some Etruscan tomb paintings. The paintings indicate that after their defeat at the hands of the Romans and Greeks, Etruscans and Whites lived pretty well together – mixed marriages seem to have been common. Then there is Shakespeare’s Othello – the Moor (ca. 1600): Othello is depicted as a wealthy and respected Black man in Europe. Maybe some of you with knowledge of pre-Atlantic Slave trade; racial history in Europe can help out here, but it seems that today’s virulent racism may have come about, as a result of that slave trade.
Could it be that Whites developed that racial attitude as a self defense mechanism? The perfect example is the Southern gentleman in the American South. They are famous for dueling at just the slightest hint of dishonor or disrespect. Now really, what kind of a serious man will put his life on the line, every time some fool says something that he doesn’t like? One who knows that he has NO HONOR! He knew that every bit of food that he put in his mouth; and every piece of clothing that he put on his back, was purchased with the misery and death of another human being. They knew what vile, miserable, worthless creatures they really were, so they made a great show, of defending an honor that they knew they did not have.
So is that how racism really came about, Whites trying to justify the benefits they derived from slavery, by dehumanizing Blacks?
Here’s a link to the Etruscan tomb paintings, you might find them interesting. http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Etruria_the_Etruscans_2.htm
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16-05-07, 12:34 PM
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[align=left]lol. Classic. niceone.gif[/align]
[align=left]Can't chip the nose off of that one.[/align]
[align=left]True the europeans colonialist endevorsincluding the Maafa (I don't call it ''slavery'' it was all part of the same thing and the term is degrading) gave them complexes in attitude towards the people they subdued especially towards us, their society became ill, worse than any plague. Have said it on here before, I belive their twisted serial killers are a direct result of their past actions. We as Africans don't have the meticulous (sp) serial killers the caucasianssuffer from within thier society taking out war and poverty as factors. [/align]
[align=left]Those times in europe (1500s-1800s) were still their, ''dark'' ages, they were (trying to) adhere to chiristianity to such a point they became very twisted something thats still seen in the more backward parts of America. They'd ban books because ithad a character named 'Mary' in it which was considered to be an insult, a time of paranoid witch hunts and executions. It was worse than what the Arabs ''suffer'' from today which is an odd twist of fate as it was them that eventuallybrought the europeans out of those times as they were stagnating, which is what I was saying about the Moors, they woke the europeans up, gave them the knowledge and power that they weild today. As they had African slaves and were attacking Africa at that time I belive the Moors & Arabs are largely to blame for the Maafa and the situatino we are in today, they gave the europeans the idea to take advantage of usto boost their economy and are doing the same themselves.Thosedark ages werealso the times where devil worship came aboutin europe. Their strict religious laws madepeopledeviate sexually (peados) and spiritually, people would be surprised to read into characters like Crowley and find that he hated his own people (the english) with a passion, thought the sameof them as we do today. Sophisticatedly ignorant. [/align]
[align=left]Drifting. lol[/align]
[align=left]Thing about the Maafa and their colonial endevors in regards to racism is that not allof them were involvedduring that time. The Eastern Europeancountries weren't involved or half as involved as the more mainlandcountries wereand I wouldn't wallk the streets alone in those places. The Russians didn't/don't have to degrade us to continue exploiting us in any way. The Greeks are even melinated, go there and they toot their horns at you down the street, slur ancient paintings ofdarkskinned people with rubbish statements about how the artist had run out of paint and used brown paint for no apparent reason. Granted the Arabs have been attacking us for the past God knows how long and have made their own excuses to convince themselves of their actions but we're not the only ones buying up the bleaching creme and hair straighting products put it that way. [/align]
[align=left]Self hatred, an inferiority complex, have noticed on a personal level that they feel intimidated by us which may be down to them lacking in melanin content. You have brown bread and you have the flour refined white bread one is natural, one just isn't healthy for you. Brown sugar, white sugar... and thats not some kind of personal boost, people always drag up thoughts of white nationalism when they hear things like that. Unlike themwe/I don't have a need to look down on others enough to create theories on an apparent superiorty it'd mean having to live a constant lie to uphold it. [/align]
[align=left]In my opinion they suffer from a cultural and physical envy, deep down inside they know who we are to them and their, ''racism'' is them attempting to post themselves up somewhere in comparison to us. No plant or animal is naturally white, in fact being white isn't even a state to exsist in. Polar bears for example have black skin, their fur is transparent, not white. There are animals in deep caves that are colourless, white, albino versions of their open field counterparts that have lost their colour over time. No doubt their illness and imbalance would servethem well if they became numerous and used it to attack other animals, sitting with them as brothers beforeletting loose some skitzoidmanner focusing their inventions on weapons of war, redefining greatness by who has the biggest bomb in pure intimidation of their neighbours. [/align]
[align=left]At the moment the only real hold they have on us is an educational one, once we start inventing and creating again they'll fall back into their place behind the Chinese, Asians and us in educational reveiws and on the global stage. [/align]
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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Have been meaning to get through that website btw... was that you replying to my email?
Anyway, its not possible to print it out without loosing some of the content or cut and paste it all onto word and the owners are afraid someone might steal the knowledge or something. Told them they should make it into a PDF/Word document for people to download, could ingrain their website details in the background if they wanted to. Otherwise it seems like you can only cut and paste it into a text document to print which means loosing the pictures.
Should make it all into a book.
“There is no harder misfortune in all human history than when the powerful of the earth are not also the first men. Then everything becomes false and awry and monstrous. And when they are even the last men and more beast than man, then the value of rabble rises higher and higher and at last the rabble-virtue says: Behold, I alone am virtue.”- S.A.Israel
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It's either non-violence or non-existence. Martin Luther King Jr.
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16-05-07, 03:10 PM
Please see response to HLF above.
You might have tried adding something new.
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16-05-07, 03:56 PM
The reason the current people in Greece can show such disrespect for ancient Greeks (Black and White), is because for the most part, they are NOT related to either.
There was an influx of large numbers of Slavs during the late 6th–8th centuries as well as the migration across Greece of nomadic pastoral groups such as the Vlachs from the 10th or 11th century, and the Albanians from the 13th century, not to mention, the ever present Turks.
So it is that as in Egypt, you get all of these shit-faced people hawkingtrinkets and talking trash, when in reality they are all only squatters.
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