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There is no doubt that God exists, but ever since the advent of religion people have been moving further and further away from understanding what God truly is. There was a time when spiritual divisiveness played almost no part in the lives of humans.This waswhen you found the most peace amongst civilizations of antiquity. I refuse to believe all the diviseness that religion introduces into the psyche man has anything to do with "God". In fact, it is the exact opposite of God, because (in my opinion) the collective entity of God has to do with harmony and balance in the Universe.

Next you may ask, well how do I know that God actually exists. Well, if you define God within the autistic theosophy of Abrahamic religions, then I would say that god doesn't exist. However, traditional African spirituality defines God as everything in the Universe. It is in the trees, planets, stars/sun, people, and in all the energies (both potential and actuated) in the Universe. Therefore, within an African perspective, to deny the existence of God would also be denying the existence of yourself. Which leads to the curious conclusion...ifyouwould bestolid enough to declare that youdon't exist, then how isit possible for you to be thinking about "God"?

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There is no doubt that God exist, but ever since the advent of religion people have been moving further and further away from understanding what God truly is. There was a time when spiritual divisiveness played almost no part in the lives of humans.This waswhen you found the most peace amongst civilizations of antiquity. I refuse to believe all the diviseness that religion introduces into the psyche man has anything to do with "God". In fact, it is the exact opposite of God, because (in my opinion) the collective entity of God has to do with harmony and balance in the Universe.

Next you may ask, well how do I know that God actually exists. Well, if you define God within the autistic theosophy of Abrahamic religions, then I would say that god doesn't exist. However, traditional African spirituality defines God as everything in the Universe. It is in the trees, planets, stars/sun, people, and in all the energies (both potential and actuated) in the Universe. Therefore, within an African perspective, to deny the existence of God would also be denying the existence of yourself. Which leads to the curious conclusion...ifyouwould bestolid enough to declare that youdon't exist, then how isit possible for you to be thinking about "God"?
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Yes, because you have issues with that
Abrahamic God, Yahweh.
As all things/everything, are creations, all creations have a creator, an actual name and not a title. Plain and simple, I say find out exactly who is God by who answers prayers and who provides salvation. That God will be the true God.
Are you still searching for the Creator or are you keeping yourself from ever knowing him via the existence of your EGO?
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Yes, because you have issues with that Abrahamic God, Yahweh.
As all things/everything, are creations, all creations have a creator, an actual name and not a title. Plain and simple, I say find out exactly who is God by who answers prayers and who provides salvation. That God will be the true God.
Are you still searching for the Creator or are you keeping yourself from ever knowing him via the existence of your EGO?
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In all sincerity, do you know what the symbol is on my avatar, what it's called, where it comes from, and its significance to Yahweh or the Biblical god? All I will say is that you look like a fool to anyone whodoesknow when you make statements like this directed at me (as you always do).

I will give you a hint...it looks similar to the Jewish "Star of David", but the Kemetic symbol in my avatarpredates the Star of David by thousands of years. The Hebrew name for David is Dwd or Dawood. If you transliterate that into Mtw Ntr (Kemetic script) then it is Twt, Tuat, or Duat. Once you know the meaning of this then you will realize why I don't waste my time on the utter foolish that you speak.


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Jokers.

HLF makes a valid point though, no need to get personal with it but its mans ego that has driven us from that balance and common understanding. Prehaps the imbalances in those who attacked and tried to take up the teachings of certain ancient civlizations.

''My (understanding of) god is better than yours because...

*ins apparent reason*''

The kamu have plenty of creation 'myths' simply because they saw the similarities. Devolution. Prehaps as we move away from the beginning we're getting more and more lost in our search for God.

In those days scholars sought out God names, ways to describe the attributes of God. Understanding that it is all seeing, is in everything, a creative force that gives life, they looked for ways to describe it, give it a shape to best relate to. The tetragammon is one, there are many.

The 'theory' that man is God (as we were given dominion over everything) gave rise to ways and means of seeking union with it as Adam and Eve had in Eden... a state where the higer self rules ones lower self, rules ones base impulses (seven sins), a state of no free will or self awareness, this ended when they ate from the tree and they fell from that union and, 'came to know right from wrong' as, universally speaking there are no opposites, a duality is needed and is therefore unified it that need for each others exsistance. Only a few had the knowledge of God names and the science needed to achieve such a union, the Kamu and others taught men of a lower nature those sciences, giving them rules and laws to abide by.

Its obvious where egotism shatters this understanding, moses fell victim to his. In seeking and (attempting to) achive union with their higher selves (enlightenment) man began to use the knowledge gained to feed their animal nature, seeking material gain and dominion over the earth and all things within it rather than a higher understanding of attainment. The teachings of those who brought that knowledge into the world fell into the wrong hands or became misunderstood and twisted as man sought to become God rather than seek union with, harmony with, God. Seeking union with their lower selves as opposed to higher and control over, "holy land" and ancient scriptures to further dominate others. Its easy for most to see that the, three, (four?) Abrahamic religions are more or less the same, each one beliving/following this or that prophet but their division was and is needed for the few to rule (the minds of) the many.

If you look at a tarot card and understand the tree of life/Kabballah you'll see that the lowest realm/dimension is the material one, on the tarot its the card of the devil, Set, also with the attribute of division and chaos. Military, physical rulership and so on.

Man is an aspect of God as God is in everything it is within us. A divine spark the ancients knew how to unlock. The science of doing so was taught by Jesus, Buddah, the Kamu and others. Man is not God in total but as the Mtu Ntr says, 'like a glass of water from a much larger sea.'

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@ Apedemak

Don't be fooled by HLF, he didn't have any real insight in mentioning man's ego as the problem, even though it is a contributing element to how more and more we lose knowledge of God. His statement was made out of his own ego, because he thinks that you must call God by the name Yahweh.

And indeed, man is not God, but we can be one with God because we are a divine aspect of the One.


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We were 'First' mentality......oh and 'we were on a higher level of spiritual consciousness'......*man please*

'We' were fighting, raping and pillaging as much and If NOT more than any human beings who ever existed.......

Do some real research guys...Nimrod and the various other Chaeldean Kings...

Thats how Kemet was formed through territorial war!

North/South East/West all throughout the human experience oppressing creation, dominating creation.

Where are these civilisations today?

The glorification and romanticizing of past civilisations teach us more than just outdated obsolete vocabulary, that has no social, political or economic relevance.confused3

Anyone who has children and teaches knows that the FIRST child to finish a test more often than not has the majority of the answers wrong.....headpoint

Being FIRST does NOT always represent the BEST of human capabilities

Now you can spit, chew, vomit and curse all you want.

If you are indicative of one who upholds the esoteric, spiritual and intellectual perspective of past civilisations, then certainly we can realize why they NOLONGER exist.
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Mitsrayim [Egypt], is representative of Upper and Lower Egypt. The name comes from the word xevn (matsowr), which means siege works, rampart, hemming in, besiege, limit, fence in. Matsowr comes from the root xev , which means to bind, to confine, compress, shut in, enclose, besiege. The suffix ending “Yim�, makes it plural. Therefore Mitsrayim means multiple hemming in, confining, cramping, assaulting, besieging, fencing in.
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Though I can’t say that I totally agree with any; there were some interesting points made. For those who wish to take a position on the existence of God, the Pantheistic nature of God would seem the most reasonable and compelling. After all, it would seem reasonable that if God created everything, then he must be in some way, a part of everything. Plus that takes away the exclusivity that all the major religions falsely claim with their made-up stories.

It’s true; the ancient’s new diddly squat, just like us, they were all just trying to figure it out. But unlike us, I don’t think that any of them felt that they alone had the answers. They all respected each other’s Gods, and in a great many cases, they adopted each other’s Gods into their own religions. The total assertion of one religion being better than another, didn’t occur until the Romans took over Christianity and claimed it’s universality (Catholic means universal), the Sassian Persians who were at war with Rome, responded with the assertion that Zoroastrianism was the one true Religion – and it’s been going on like that ever since – different religions, same B.S. And yes, War and Conquest was the order of the day for all of them.

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I say find out exactly who is God by who answers prayers and who provides salvation. That God will be the true God.

I guess that means that lottery winners are the most pious and devout people of all.





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You haven't offered any more proof of a God than somebody of the Abrahamic religions. Only your own musings on the stars andtrees.


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Watcher, do you have a problem with the written word? Just which part didn’t you understand? The point of it ALL is that I don’t know, and neither does anybody else, except fools and liars, but then again, they ARE fools and liars, how can you believe them, which one are you?

Proof of God? - What a ridiculous thought, you may be both.


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hey dickwad, I was talking to the thread starter. Take your big ego and **** off


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