Thought I would create a thread that hopefully others can add to, that will show us who various nations were in the past, what the bible called them and who they are now. Interested to in geneology of the tribes.

So here is my first contribution, please feel free to add.

p.s. If you know some of this stuff to be wrong, please point it out with reasons why. A wise man recieve instructions but a fool despises it.

Germany in prophecy Part 1


[align=center]What Happened to Assyria?[/align] [align=left]After the fall of Assyria by Babylon, what happened to the Assyrians? This nation seems to have vanished from History? Or did they? The Bible plainly says that Assyria will play a vital role in this end time. What happened to them?[/align] [align=left]The book of Nahum shows that these people migrated NORTH in to the mountains towards Europe: "Thy shepherds slumber, O king of Assyria: thy nobles shall dwell in the dust: thy people is scattered upon the mountains, and no man gathereth them" (3:18). The only mountains that are in the region of Assyria are the Caucasus Mountains between the Black and the Caspian Sea. The Assyrian nation was situated just SOUTH of those mountains, and it was often a place of refuge from danger. In the book of Kings the princes of Assyria took refuge there: "So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and dwelt at Nineveh.
"And it came to pass, as he was worshipping in the house of Nisroch his god, that Adrammelech and Sharezer his sons smote him with the sword: and they escaped into the land of Armenia. And Esarhaddon his son reigned in his stead" (2 Kings 19:36-37). Modern translations render Armenia as "Ararat," which is between the Black and the Caspian sea just NORTH of Assyria. Now, let's look at secular history to see if it corroborates the Bible.[/align] [align=left]The Roman historian Pliny writes that he found "...a warlike people called the ASSYRIANI that inhabited the region NORTH of the Black Sea" ("Natural History", IV, § 12, page 183, emphasis mine). They were north because of the Babylonian invasion from the south, which Nahum wrote is the reason why the Assyrians were migrating north.[/align] [align=left]Now consider what Sylax, the author of the "Periplus," who lived about 550 B.C., writes of this region: "THE COAST OF THE BLACK SEA ... IS CALLED ASSYRIA" (from page 261 of Perrot and Chipiez's "History of Art in Sardinia, Judaea, Syria and Asia Minor", Vol. II., emphasis mine) .[/align] [align=left]At that time, the Roman historians attached a name to these "warlike" people. They named them "Teutons." The Romans whose unaccustomed ears tried to translate into their own tongue the names of these fierce Germanic-peoples rendered the "Deutschen" as the "Teutons" [/align] [align=left]German historians are united in their description of an hostile, warlike people inhabiting central Europe who came into confrontation with an expanding Roman Empire, causing the Romans to build their famous limes (defense positions and walls) and station legions along their northern borders to stop the advancing warlike hordes. Jerome (Latin scholar c.340-420), who lived at the time when the Indo-Germanic tribes were invading Europe, gives the answer: "For 'Assur (the Assyrian) also is joined with them[Cimbric Tribes] invading western Europe, ALONG THE RHINE'"! (Letter 123, § 16; from "Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers".) [/align] [align=center]Why Germans Call Themselves "Deutsche"

[/align] [align=left]The Germans refer to themselves as DEUTSCHE, and to their country as DEUTSCHLAND. Why? Let's turn back the pages of history for the answer. The Assyrians anciently called their land "Athur" -- the Indo-Germanic form of the Semitic word "Asshur" ("Encyclopedia Britannica", article, "Mesopotamia"). Sometimes the name "Athur" was shortened simply to "Tyr" in the Indo-European tongue.Asshur or Tyr was worshipped as the god of war by all the ancient world. His name was placed on the THIRD DAY of the week -- called "Tuesday" in the English-speaking world. Tuesday is Asshur's day. Tuesday is from an old Saxon word meaning "Tiw's day." Tiw was the god of war of the Germanic people of Europe. Tiw, or Tiwe, was also known by the name Tyr -- that is, Asshur. Tiw is another name of Asshur! [/align] [align=left]The Assyrians knew Asshur or Tyr was their ancestor. We should expect, therefore, that when they migrated to Europe they would still be known as the sons of Tyr or Tiw, that is, Asshur. And what do we find? When the Germans appeared in Europe, they claimed Tyr or Tiw as their ancestor! But what has the name "Deutsche" to do with Tiw? The modern German word "Deutsche" -- as educated Germans know -- is derived from the old Anglo-Saxon word Tiw. (See any thorough book on etymology and word derivations.) Whenever a German calls himself Deutsche, he is saying he is Tiw's or Asshur's son -- an Assyrian. And when he terms his country Deutschland, he is saying Tiw's or Asshur's land -- Assyria! Even ancient Hindu literature uses both the word "Asgras" and "Daityas" to refer to the Assyrians."Daityas" is but a Sanskrit word for "Deutsch" -- a name applied to the Assyrians over 1500 years before the birth of Christ! [/align]
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Justavoice;
Congratulations on starting a thoughtful thread, but I would be interested in knowing what your sources were for your conclusions. You have managed to come up with a new theory that I have not heard before. My answers are below.


After the fall of Assyria by Babylon.

An alliance between Babylon and the Medes, was sealed by the marriage of Cyaxares' granddaughter, to Nebuchadrezzar II, the son of Babylonian King "Nabopolassar", this in 612 B.C. Then the attack on the Assyrian capital Nineveh was renewed, and the city fell in late August of that year. The Babylonians and the Medes, together pursued the fleeing Assyrians westward into Syria. Assyrian appeals to Egypt for help came to naught, and the last Assyrian ruler, Ashur-uballit II, disappeared from history in 609 B.C. The spoils and territories of the Assyrian Empire, were then split-up between The Babylonians and the Medes.

The only mountains that are in the region of Assyria are the Caucasus Mountains between the Black and the Caspian Sea. The Assyrian nation was situated just SOUTH of those mountains, and it was often a place of refuge from danger. In the book of Kings the princes of Assyria took refuge there: "So Sennacherib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and dwelt at Nineveh.
You are Way-off here: Keeping in mind that Assyria was in the northern part of modern Iraq: You have the northwestern part of the Zargos mountains extending over part of northern Assyria, then you have the entire eastern part of Turkey which is all mountains: I think this is all part of the Taurus range of which mount Ararat is the most prominent, then you have to go through Armenia and Georgia before you get to the Caucasian Mountains.

And it came to pass, as he was worshipping in the house of Nisroch his god, that Adrammelech and Sharezer his sons smote him with the sword: and they escaped into the land of Armenia. And Esarhaddon his son reigned in his stead" (2 Kings 19:36-37). Modern translations render Armenia as "Ararat," which is between the Black and the Caspian sea just NORTH of Assyria. Now, let's look at secular history to see if it corroborates the Bible.

Armenia is a country, Ararat is a mountain.
Additionally: using the Bible, as a historical source is a bad idea. The Greeks and Romans writing the Bible knew about as much about ancient history as you do. Don’t forget, most of what we know today was gleaned from countless excavations and the research of countless people of recent times.
At that time, the Roman historians attached a name to these "warlike" people. They named them "Teutons." The Romans whose unaccustomed ears tried to translate into their own tongue the names of these fierce Germanic-peoples rendered the "Deutschen" as the "Teutons"

These names are all of the current era (A.D.), Assyria ceased to exist 700 years earlier. What’s the connection?
Jerome (Latin scholar c.340-420), who lived at the time when the Indo-Germanic tribes were invading Europe, gives the answer: "For 'Assur (the Assyrian) also is joined with them [Cimbric Tribes] invading western Europe, [size=ALONG THE RHINE][/size]'"! (Letter 123, § 16; from "Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers".)
A guy named Assur is with them, what does that mean? And PLEASE refrain from using the term “INDO� anything. It is quite simply a term coined by White people to confuse history – as is the term SEMETIC. The only Indo people are the Indians of India; who are a mix of the original Dravidians and the invading Arians. Semitic is a made-up word coined oddly enough by a German in the 1800s.

Germans didn’t migrate northward, they migrated SOUTHWARD, Germanic cultures extended from Scandinavia to as far south as the Carpathians.
Even ancient Hindu literature uses both the word "Asgras" and "Daityas" to refer to the Assyrians."Daityas" is but a Sanskrit word for "Deutsch" -- a name applied to the Assyrians over 1500 years before the birth of Christ!
Hindu and Sanskrit are terms of relatively recent origin, the Arian invasions ended about 600 B.C. then take into account the hundreds of years it took for the Arians and Dravidians who had not fled to assimilate and create a common language and script. Any culture before that was strictly Dravidian; also remember Arians as well as all the people (Whites) from the Eurasian plains, were illiterate. In addition those words look very similar to Dasyus, Dasas and Simyus, which were the Arian words for Black people – the indigenous Dravidians.
Just so you get the idea, I have attached a picture of Assyrians, as you can see, Assyrians are Black people. I don’t think that Germans would appreciate what you are suggesting.