Why is it that mankind gets blamed for all the ills of the world because Adam and Eve nyamed a damn fruit? Seriously, this shit never made any sense to me.

You're telling me that a deity who supposedly knows everything backwards and forwards and has unlimited wisdom created everything perfectly, only for things to go haywire because one of his angels who 'fell' tempted Adam & Eve (who by the way, had absolutely no prior backlog of experience in life) into eating an apple or whatever the fruit was?

Why couldn't the christian god admit he messed up and put things right? You don't blame the product for the fault of the manufacturer, yet so many people are supposed to suffer because of this? Huh???

God was apparently very busy back then. I mean he was looking the other way when the snake spoke to Eve, he wasn't paying attention when they were making their way towards the tree and he didn't know where Abel was. He had to ask Caine.

See modern Christianity has it that God is everywhere, all seeing and all powerful but in the books he isn't written like that. He has gaps in his knowledge at times.

good question .

I went to a Catholic grammar school. By the time I was in 5th grade I was thinking:

These White people actually believe this sh!t?

Damn! I thought White people were supposed to be intelligent.

Check out Epistle to the Hebrews 7:3. Melchizedek didn't have a mother.

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Why should he take the blame when it is not his fault. From my understanding he gave us free choice, in that we are not programmed or not robots, we think and make our own choice. If we make a bad decision why should someone else take the blame, when it was us who made the decision?

Very good question Prince Hakeem and one that as been asked recently to me. Its why I've decided to try and give an answer as I believe when you find several people asking such questions, it is the spirit of man which is asking for the answer.

In answer to your question the simple answer is "CHOICE".

God as given man freewill, to do good or to do evil. If it were not for choice we would simply be like robots doing as we are programmed to do and not acting outside of the bounds or remits of that program.

With choice thrown in or free will this program becomes much more complex and the programmer (GOD) shows how he is the master programmer of man, by working in amongst all that we will do, might do or won't do because of free will.

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Life is but a simple question of choice, to do good or to do evil. However God will not bend our arms and take away that choice.

For instance look at the cigarette ban.. They get the people hooked, and then force them to smoke outside. Now the people's choice is taken away because of an habit that the tobacco industry put upon the people. They say they are working in the people's interest but are they ?

God did not put our habit upon us, Adam our first father did that and left us with no choice. What God did was put the choice back for Adam's offspring.

@Precious Stone


Last time I checked I wasn't around when Eve ate the guinep then tempted her hubby to do it. Therefore, it wasn't MY choice, it was theirs.


@Justavoice


This 'free will' thing is another cop out. For instance, a child may put their hand on the stove and learn fire burns, therefore the child learns from it and doesn't repeat it again - everyone is allowed a mistakle. Yet, to my recollection Adam & Eve made ONE mistake and that's screwed up the entire human population from then until the present day.


My question is this - how can you have billions of people exercising their "free will," making their own decisions, taking charge of the course of events and of history, and at the same time this all powerful god who knows all, sees all, be in complete control? This is a complete contradiction. Either we have freedom of choice to exercise our free will and the course of events is completely out of the god's control or He is in complete control and we have no control (and therefore no choice, and no responsibility, either) of and for our actions. You can't have it both ways. Either he is in complete control and we are just a bunch of helpless robots and have no "free will" or responsibility for anything, or we do what we want and god isn't in control of anything.

No, you may not have been around, but as everyone knows, we are ALL offspring of Adam and Eve; but I suppose God should have started fresh with you gave you the chance to decide for yourself!!!

Yeah basically......

But they never had free will until they ate of the fruit (doesn't say apple lol) so how could it be a free choice to eat it before they even had the capacity for free choices?

Hmmm

Really? If someone said to you 'if you walk on the right side of the road, you will fall over, but if you walk on the left side you will not'; doesn't that show that the person has feel will to decide which side of the road they will walk on?

You're thinking as a human who has free will. You can't comprehend the mindstate of original Adam and Eve who did not.


4: And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: edit

5: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. edit

6: And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. edit

7: And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. edit

8: And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. edit