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Talking Was Jesus a black man as some people says - 31-08-07, 04:42 AM

WAS JESUS A BLACK MAN? AND WAS HE A UGLY MAN AS SOME PEOPLE PUT IT?

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The "historical" one was, no doubt!

from your link:

..."For century the black people been trying to produce their own black version of Jesus, instead they should be trying to produce their own version of Christianity..."

Dr. John Henrik Clarke never tired of mentioning this fact. He was right and so is this statement!

from your link:

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Our lord was neither black nor white. He was from the Jewish race. There are black Jews by race as well even in the time of our lord and before. However, our lord was not burnt face. ..."

There is only one race the human race. The word Jewish/Semite/Hebrew are all made up words:
The word "semite' or "...'Semitic" is not a linguistic term and NOT ethnic as it is being used by Eurocentric media, scholarship, etc. Semitic is used as a euphemism for "Caucasian'..." -- and an oxymoron.
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The word "semite' or "...'Semitic" is not a linguistic term and NOT ethnic as it is being used by Eurocentric media, scholarship, etc. Semitic is used as a euphemism for "Caucasian'..." -- and an oxymoron.

Source: The Egyptian Great Year And Christianity
January 08, 2002
by Corey Gilkes

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"...Finally the name "Jew" itself is a coded reference to the lunar worship of the Hebrew's "pagan" past; "Jew" is YAHUDY in Hebrew, which is almost identical to YAHUDY, a Kemetic title for Thoth, and the principal lunar deity. Also pertinent is the fact that throughout the Old and New Testament there is a constant appearance of certain numbers that are sacred numbers in African sacred sciences - i.e. 13, 7, 40, etc. In fact, the New Testament is loaded with occult references to ancient Nile Valley mythologies and Wisdom Teachings so much so that it is almost impossible to extract actual events from the myth. Be that as it may, by applying the "Massey-Diop method" to the gospels, we can make sense of the texts we grew up hearing..."

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This word' in which the so-Called Jews cling to as though it were the gospel truth--though in reality is in fact--a clever coverup--because its use conceals their actual origin which is African.

"...In 1829, the Anglo-French anthropologist. F. W. Edwards, suggested that because Jewish people are racially different from Europeans, they must belong to a different race that anthropologists have not yet identified. In a private letter to his friend

This is Amedee Thierry

FW Edwards classified the Jewish people as Semites after the Semitic people that came to occupy the Middle East from where the Bible claims the Jewish people originated. It must be pointed out that once again this private classification was highly influenced by the false biblical narrative on where the Jewish people claim to have originated [see Genesis 11:31; 15:7].

The speculation of Edwards about the hypothetical origin of the Jewish people was made in a private letter that was not supposed to be made public. Amedee Thierry, who was himself a Jew, made it public by asserting that anthropologists have identified the Jewish people to be Semites. Instantly, the Jewish people accepted and began to propagate the idea that anthropologists have found out who they were, and that they were Semites, but it was false. Throughout their history going back over two thousand years, there was no mention of a racial link of the Afrim people to any Semitic tribal group anywhere

Modern historical, archaeological, and ahthropological research have all failed to discover any evidence that links the Jewish people to anyu Semitic group in the Middle East. Again, here is another example of how biblical fabrication has influenced western scholastic thinking and perception of world history..." -- page 195, "The Africans Who Wrote The Bible, Dr. Darkwah-"Undisputed" Linguistic Ghanian Expert.

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At that time in history only 1/4 of our culture could not read or write. The Jewish Scholars returned and re-edited the bible and retro-placed the words Jew and Hebrew whereever they saw fit "in the name of GOD" and from there this book grew legs and walked right thru history.


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What does the color of Jesus have to do with the work of Christianity? In order for a person to benefit from the workings of what Christ brought to the world race has nothing to do with it.

This is nothing more than a trick of the enemy to divide and use race to distract people from finding 'the answer'.

One thing i do know is that Christianity spends little time in theory trying to defend itself or overwhelm other tenets. when applied as it is given it stands upon the divine creator nothing more nothing less. we give witness of it to bring others to their salvation which is a choice by faith.

any religion who spends time disputing another is suspect at the least.


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What does the color of Jesus have to do with the work of Christianity? In order for a person to benefit from the workings of what Christ brought to the world race has nothing to do with it.


If color does not matter, then why is it that Jesus, a Black man, is universally depicted as a White Man. If color does not matter, why was the CHANGE made? While we’re at it, there hasn’t been a Black Pope in over a thousand years, what’s up with that?

This is nothing more than a trick of the enemy to divide and use race to distract people from finding 'the answer'.


The enemy?? Who is the enemy? Is it them, but who is them. What you really mean to say is that any who disagree with Christian dogma, is the enemy. But you are afraid to say it that way because then you would reveal your true nature, and that of the Christian hierarchy.


One thing i do know is that Christianity spends little time in theory trying to defend itself or overwhelm other tenets. when applied as it is given it stands upon the divine creator nothing more nothing less. we give witness of it to bring others to their salvation which is a choice by faith.

The disgustingly violent and shameful spread of Islam can ONLY be surpassed by the disgustingly violent and shameful spread of Christianity. The civilization of Hawaii was brought down by Christian missionaries, the destruction of the entire western hemisphere was predicated (supposedly), on the desire to save the pagan souls of the inhabitants – about 90,000,000 (that’s millions) souls were murdered. The colonization of Africa and southern Asia, was spearheaded by Christian missionaries, need I go on?

Any religion who spends time disputing another is suspect at the least


Is it that you are so ignorant, that you don’t know of the Christian persecution of the Jew’s, or the current battle with Islam? Not to mention Christianities determined efforts to destroy indigenous religions.

MeKnow- I have been wondering: Are you a Judas Goat recruited to keep Blacks under control. Certainly the White powers cannot be happy with Black people asking all of these new questions, and questioning the current power structure, and more importantly, how it came to be.

Or are you just some ignorant storefront preacher with a degree from the school of flim-flam. Who is willing to say anything and do anything to recruit a following? Actually, I would have more respect for you if you were, at least then, you would know what you are doing, and why you are doing it.

Either way, I consider you and others like you, to be very dangerous to Black people. They have already been conditioned to obey their White masters by a priesthood-preacherhood (whichever), who serves as the front.

And this will continue as long as they listen to the warm, soothing, seemingly altruistic lies of worms like you. You use loving words well: to hide the true carnage, cruelty, imperialism, and racism of European Christianity.

I don’t mind Black people practicing Christianity; it is a Black religion after all. But what I do mind is those weak pathetic Negro’s who are so desperate for something to hold onto, something to believe in: that they don’t mind following the dictates of their conquerors and oppressors. As a matter of fact: most of these idiots don’t even know that they had been conquered. So they think it perfectly natural to be looking up at a White man when they do their devotions.

And when the White man strikes them down, so many say: it’s in the hands of the Lord lets leave it to him. But it is people like you, who help keep them in this mindless, weak, helpless, pathetic, mindset. Though it could justly be said that they are getting pretty much what their worthless nature deserves. But still, it’s not right.

So if you are a Judas Goat who has been duped into betraying your own kind: Stop, think, Educate yourself in the true beliefs of the Hebrews. If you can do that, then that will be something that is worthy to share with Black people. Otherwise, you are just another weak-minded Negro, who is fodder, and helps provide fodder, for the White racist machine that is fronted by Christianity.
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Talking Ok Jim999. - 03-09-07, 11:12 PM

yes!Jim 999999. If Jesus is a black man would you serve him? Would you accept his teaching? Since you care so much about the black race. How many black person have you help this year?
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I didn't know Jim999 was white.
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Dr. James, I would venture to say that I have helped a great many more than you have. BTW are you related to meKnow?

But is that how we are to judge the correctness of an argument? By you pulling that "I am a believer, therefore I am good crap". You didn't say it, your kind never does, but that's what you mean.

My post said nothing about the existence of Jesus, his message, or it's value. My criticism was of Europeanized Christianity. Are you so totally lost, that you can't differentiate between what the White man taught you, and what MIGHT have been the true message of the Hebrew Jesus, and the Hebrew religion in general?

Are you so lost that you don't even know that there is a difference? Has the White man so indoctrinated you, that just the very thought of challenging his dictates fills you with fear? Try saving your soul this way: read something non-biblical about the Hebrews, see if you can feel what they were going through because of the White man. Then tell me if you think they would approve of this very same White man, using their religious beliefs to mentally enslave the minds of their own kind.

I know that many of your kind find this very easy to gloss over: But the White man wiped them out you know. Their nation became non-existent. The last of them committed suicide at Masada rather than submit to this White man. And now you give your body and soul to this very same White man in the name of one of the Hebrews that he murdered. You're mad.

Alabamagirl - Go back to sleep.

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Jim999 - Shut the **** up. No one here needs your negativity.
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jim I stand corrected. for many it does matter unfortunately.

but in the context of what HE (Jesus) taught it does not.

let me ask you a question Jim. do you read the bible? if so what does it say about His color? what is the emphasis as far as the Salvation He can to exact?

the only thing that is said about Jesus' ethnicity is that He would be from the tribe of Judah. He came down a line of 52 generations to be born. God chose Jews not because they were the greatest, in fact they came from a lowly beginning.

As they followed God He blessed them and when they whored after other Gods He used even heathens to chasten them.

Because His color is not specified the region who wrote depicted Him in their likeness (color). If you would have painted his what color would you have made Him. All would have done well to depict Him as a middle easterner of the time. sunkissed but not necessarily black.


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jim why would i be afraid to speak my mind?

because you will object? because i will be thrown off the board? because I am afraid for some reason? come on jim999.

you would do well to speak your mind and not try and think for me. you want to know what i think ask me and i will certainly tell you.

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yes christianity has had a violent history. like all teachings it has been invaded by men greedy of gain and control.

and thus i stand by my statement that pure Christianity does not teach conflict with others. it only teaches that the enemy is satan. pure christianity teaches that the enemy is to be loved. the crusades were not about christianity but power and control.

no where does christianity teach such tatics.

it teaches that man is in peril and that God sent a savior to those who would believe. it warns unbelievers of the consequences of unbelief but does not take free will from man. it warns believes of their acts in this life.

christianity is not a religion but a lifestyle.

as i have said before I was born in North Louisiana USA. a hot bed of KKK activity. right next to Arkansas and Mississippi. don't try and tell me that i don't know what racism is. i have gone face to face with it. i have been threatened and had physical altercations with racist whites. i fear none of them and have never given in to any fear.

i don't know where you are from or where you have been but the truth or answer that you speak of is this.

There are white men that are not worth throwing wet shyt on if they were on fire and like wise some blacks, browns, yellow men and the like. and there are white men who are more trust worthy than any black. come to new orleans and see who you have to worry about killing you. go to 5th ward in houston, tx and go down on Little York. go to San Francisco and be sure to go to Hunters Point.

The white man is not the only thing you have to fear. he can do no more that what you allow him today.

the dire straits that the world faces today has little to do with race. the haves are few and care less about any one but them selves. race means little any more except to small minded people. look around you jim9999, it is about power now.

it is not the white man per se but the bomb being exploded anywhere on earth that you have to be worried about. then you best have God on your side because nuclear fallout does not care about your color.


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