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A serious spiritual aspirant should see every aspect of his/her life as a ritual in which the soul within them (Ausar/Asar) is struggling to be reborn again. This spiritual rebirth is accomplished by the practices of listening to the teachings, practicing them and meditating upon them. With the understanding of the hidden knowledge, you can see that all of nature around you is Divine. This includes plants, animals, planets and stars, food other people, etc.

So through your understanding of the myth and how it relates to your life according to this understanding (ritual), you can lead yourself to discover and realize (mystical experience) the deeper truth behind your own being. This is the true practice of religion.

If you understand the superficial teaching of a religious myth, and you practice its rituals blindly without understanding the deeper implications, you will not obtain the higher realization. Your practice will be at the level of dogma. This is why there is so much religious conflict in the world today. At the level of dogma, each religion has misunderstanding and ignorance have been personal disillusionment and wars. Yet, at the mystical or metaphysical level, all relgions are actually pointing towards the same goal, that of Spiritual Realization..."


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Default 01-09-07, 11:05 PM

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how do you define what is myth and what is reality?

ever heard of the Coptic Church of Egypt?

i think classifying anothers belief a myth is in reality a cry for validation of your own. the true Creator will validate His prophets. patience is the virtue of truth.

anyone attempting to promote truth who is not patient is suspect ms fine.


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ms fine:

how do you define what is myth and what is reality?

ever heard of the Coptic Church of Egypt?

i think classifying anothers belief a myth is in reality a cry for validation of your own. the true Creator will validate His prophets. patience is the virtue of truth.

anyone attempting to promote truth who is not patient is suspect ms fine.

Hello! meknow -- Good Morning! -- Thanks for responding...!

I am learning that the 3 all important tenets of attaining a higher level of consciousness are:

myth
ritual
mysticism

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Yes I know about all types of religion or religious practices!

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Am learning that all belief systems must have the 3 ingrediants listed above to be viable. So you are right by starting a dialogue whereby myth and reality are defined!

Myth--a sacred story about an origin or beginning point

Reality--the state of things as they actually are...!


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you are welcome dear heart.

but i must say hon that what you gave are merely definitions of the two words.

who selects which stories are mythical.

or are you saying that all sacred stories are mythical?


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you are welcome dear heart.
No problem!

[quote=meknow;1434117] but i must say hon that what you gave are merely definitions of the two words.[quote]

Hon? Can do w/o the "hon". Fine is best, thx much!

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who selects which stories are mythical.

or are you saying that all sacred stories are mythical?
Good Question!

All Man-Made Religions have a mythical "origin"--would not be so- called religious were this not so!

the word Relegare (latin): "Re" -- back; and "Legare" -- to hold, to link, to bind. Meaning or so-Called meaning---to link back to the original source: GOD.


Therefore, and again I must repeat -- All Man-Made Religions have a mythical "origin" The term myth/mythical is used here and is therefore a necessary ingredient in the discussion of religion because of the fact that the span of time that reachs back to the "origin" is beyond hu[e]man's comprehensive consciousness.


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THE BIBLE IS THE BOOK OF LIFE, THE EGYPTIANS HAVE THE BOOK OF THE DEAD,

HMMMMMMM INTERESTING ..........


[40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this
untoward generation. (Act 2:40 KJV)
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great catch truth.


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Book of the dead = Going forth by day.

Some would say that Africa is going through its Ausarian ressurection phase now as a continent pretty much untouched by outsiders until recently.



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Fine1952 – though I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said. I do agree with your premise: which if I understood you correctly; is that spirituality is best used to seek a higher plane, a greater truth, and an appreciation for all that is nature, while at the same time, trying to gain a better understanding of ourselves, and perhaps in time, an understanding of our (mankind’s) place in the scheme of things. That is a worthy goal for all.

That is why it is so distressing to see most, whom claim to be religious, miss this entirely, and instead dwell on the Dogma. Which in many cases is of suspect origin, and promoting of an exclusive agenda, (You are scum, but you will be all right once you believe as I do, if not, you will burn in hell: that is, if I don’t have to kill the degenerate you, to save your soul first.), sort of thing.

How it is that normal people can buy into that sort of thing is a mystery to me. And they seem to think nothing of promoting one group of humans as better than another; regardless of what they have done, but based solely on what they believe, and who they follow.

The great problem presented to Black people by Dogma, is that so many use it as an excuse not to have to think. The quote: I HONOR GOD, BUT I WORSHIP HIM, PRAISE HIM, PRAY TO HIM, CALL ON HIM, COUNT ON HIM, RELY TOTALLY ON HIM, W/O HIM WE CAN’T FUNCTION.

Is very typical of Black thought, that can’t be good.
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Fine1952 – though I don’t necessarily agree with everything you said. I do agree with your premise: which if I understood you correctly; is that spirituality is best used to seek a higher plane, a greater truth, and an appreciation for all that is nature, while at the same time, trying to gain a better understanding of ourselves, and perhaps in time, an understanding of our (mankind’s) place in the scheme of things. That is a worthy goal for all.

That is why it is so distressing to see most, whom claim to be religious, miss this entirely, and instead dwell on the Dogma. Which in many cases is of suspect origin, and promoting of an exclusive agenda, (You are scum, but you will be all right once you believe as I do, if not, you will burn in hell: that is, if I don’t have to kill the degenerate you, to save your soul first.), sort of thing.

How it is that normal people can buy into that sort of thing is a mystery to me. And they seem to think nothing of promoting one group of humans as better than another; regardless of what they have done, but based solely on what they believe, and who they follow.

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The great problem presented to Black people by Dogma, is that so many use it as an excuse not to have to think. The quote: I HONOR GOD, BUT I WORSHIP HIM, PRAISE HIM, PRAY TO HIM, CALL ON HIM, COUNT ON HIM, RELY TOTALLY ON HIM, W/O HIM WE CAN’T FUNCTION.

Is very typical of Black thought, that can’t be good
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Once again your misinformed opinion of Christianity screams. The reliance of Christians on God is not as you say "a can not function". God says if a man does not work he should not eat. We rely on God as the sustainer of the world. He will keep man from destroying himself.

many look at the things that are happening and do not recognize that were it not for God having the kings heart in his hand there would be all chaos.

why don't you stay out of the bible and stop guessing or read it so you can have some real understanding of it.


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THE BIBLE IS THE BOOK OF LIFE, THE EGYPTIANS HAVE THE BOOK OF THE DEAD,

HMMMMMMM INTERESTING ..........



Research will point to the fact that the title "The Egyptian Book of the Dead" was written by the racist Sr. E.A. Bulge Wallace.

The correct title that the Egyptians themselves used was: "The Book of Coming Forth Into the Light by day. A codified version from a pre-dynastic line of literature that goes a lil something like this:

***Pre-Dynastic***
Shetaut Asar-Aset-Heru
The Myth of Asar, Aset and Heru

Shetaut Atum-Ra
The Myth of Creation

***Pyramid Texts***
Pyramid of Unas
Pyramid of Teti
Pyramid of Mernere
Pyramid of Pepi II
(circa 5,000 BCE or prior)

***Wisdom Texts***
Precepts of Ptahotep
Instructions of Ani
Instructions of Amenemope
(circa 3,000 BCE - Ptolematic Period)

***Coffin Texts***
(circa 2040 BCE - 1786 BCE)

***Papyrus Texts***
Books of Coming Forth By Day
-- Papyrus of Ani
-- Papyrus of Hunefer
-- Papyrus of Kenna
-- Papyrus of Greenfield

Page 48, The Egyptian Book of the Dead, Dr. Muata A. Ashby

--I would not expect you to know what all enlightened scholars already know: The Biblical Text was culled from the Book of Coming Forth By Day...


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Book of the dead = Going forth by day.

Some would say that Africa is going through its Ausarian ressurection phase now as a continent pretty much untouched by outsiders until recently.


I'd be most interested to know more about your thoughts on this statement.


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