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Talking Dealing with bible contradictions - 11-09-07, 10:19 AM

SUPPOSE CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE.

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I have no problem with "the WORD" as long as the word is neither confusing nor contradictory.

However, the biblical text is just that!

confusing and contradictory

Here are few examples of the doublets:
Contradiction #1 Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
(a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1)
(b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1)

Contradiction #2 In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
(a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) One million, one hundred thousand (1 Chronicles 21:5)

Contradiction #3 How many fighting men were found in Judah?
(a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
(b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (1 Chronicles 21:5)

Contradiction #4 God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
(a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
(b) Three (1 Chronicles 21:12)

Contradiction #5 How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
(b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

Contradiction #6 How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?
(a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)

Contradiction #7 How long did he rule over Jerusalem?
(a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
(b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)

Contradiction #8 The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time?
(a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
(b) Three hundred (1 Chronicles 11:11)

Contradiction #9 When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after?
(a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
(b) Before (1 Chronicles 13 and 14)

Contradiction #10 How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark?
(a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
(b) Seven (Genesis 7:2)
But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8, 9)

Contradiction #11 When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture?
(a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
(b) Seven thousand (1 Chronicles 18:4)

Contradiction #12 How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?
(a) Forty thousand (1 Kings 4:26)
(b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)

Contradiction #13 In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?
(a) Twenty-sixth year (1 Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
(b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
http://www.daghettotymz.com/current/101biblical/101blblical.html

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The impetus for the contradictory and confusing nature of the biblical doublets are due in part to the fact that this text was culled and gleaned from much, much older sources:

The Book of Coming Forth Into The Light By Day
The Pyramid Texts
The Epics of Gilgamesh
Hymns of Aten
Instruction of Amenemipet son of Kanakht

----------of Amenemipet son of Kanakht
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The majority of the books inside the biblical text "are" not historical fact; though, these listed below are -- however, they are not included in biblical text:

1st, 2nd, 3rd books of Maccabees
The historical books of the Old Testament
The First and Second Books of Maccabees

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Q. Why?

A. This is a viable reason: The 70 {e.g. Septuagint in Greek, uggh!} who sat down for a century to distort, mislead, mistranslate, mistransliterate and misrepresent knew nothing of the true esoteric, intrinsic meanings behind the words! Because contrary to what the modern day Jews/Semites/Hebrews (all made up words -- see Jew/Hebrew/Semite/Zionist: All made up words of embellishment! - Topic Powered by eve community

-- say or think -- their ancestors {the Afrim/Ivrim} people created a product of illusion (the bible) and sold it to the Greeks; then the Roman Empire confiscated the product and Constantine and Father Eucebus got a hold of the WORD it took legs and walked a different route.

Next {the Afrim/Ivrim} people travelled to Europe, spreading the word taht they were "God's Chosen People". They convinced the Europeans that the WORD was the truth, light and the way. Prior to this time this backwards group practiced superstitious behavior {e.g. belief in trolls}

The Europeans then claimed the WORD as their own; they even kept the original concept of blackness that can still be witnessed in artifacts such as:



and

from Poland
Black Madonna Pictures




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-- Page 98, 99, 125 "The Africans Who Wrote The Bible" by Dr, Alex Darkwah.

In Bible Myths, T.W. Doane devotes a chapter to The Worship of the Virgin Mother, where he candidly states, "The whole secret of the fact of these early representations of the Virgin Mary and Jesus - so called-being black, crowned, and covered with jewels, is that they are of pre-Christian origin; they are Isis and Horus... baptized anew."
The Black Madonna


The Sibyls: the First Prophetess’ of Mami (Wata) by Mama Zogbé::

Alkebulan is the 'Cradle of Modern Civilization'

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Talking fine 1952 - 14-09-07, 12:57 AM

hey! fine 1952 give me the link to that page and I bet there is a logical emplanation fo rtht link.
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Default 14-09-07, 01:36 AM

msfine:

I have not checked those things you make issue with and am sure that you have gotten it right. As I mentioned before on the issue of history that men will sometime exaggerate and get details off a bit.

You maybe missing the reality of the Word of God by not understanding what the infallability of it means. God inspired these men to write His message to His people. The bible is written to the Jews and to believers. It has much to say about gentiles, sinners, backsliders etc. But it was written to believers and His chosen Israel.

Now of these 13 contridictions can any of them dispute the message of Salvation which is the crux of the Word. The old testament history of the jews was nothing more than a prelude to the coming of Jesus Christ. The new testament is about the people of God living under grace rather than the law and the fullfillment of the promise in Genisis 3:15.

Here is something you may want to try msfine. the bible says that a true prophet of God can not lie, what he says must come to pass. Can you find a prophetic word that is unfullfilled? There are only a few left to be fullfilled. The next event is to be the return of Jesus and His Church being taken to meet Him in the air to go back to heaven with Him.

the deception of the peoples left behind has been put in place. if you are alive at the time the church is taken msfine you will be hearing of how aliens took millions from the earth. the anti christ will then come and bring a false peace to mankind and to seemingly solve all the problems of world. For 3 and one-half years and then he will enter the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and declare himself as God.

This is what the world will have to face msfine.

This is what the bible is for msfine.

my pastor feels strongly in his spirit that God has revealed what the headlines will be after the Body Of Christ has been raptured. The news line will be "Millions Missing". We made cassettes and CDs with that title on them and we give them out with the message on them of what has happened and what will happen according to the Word of God. And we tell them how to escape the fate of eternal death by accepting the "mark of the beast".

The message that God sent through the prophets msfine is that sin entered the perfect world through disobedience. And God promised a redeemer. And He fullfilled His promise in Jesus Christ coming into the world and giving His life on the cross, going to the tomb of Joseph and being raised from the dead on the third day.

There is no error there msfine.


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Default 16-09-07, 02:23 AM

AND THEY WORRY ABOUT THOSE THINGS HOW MANY MEN WERE FIGHTING HERE
OR WHO SLAYED THIS ANIMAL OR THIS ANIMAL, TO PROVE THEIR POINT, THEY DONT WANT TO HERE THE TRUTH ANYWAYS SO HEY LETS FINF FAULT IN IT..CHECK THIS OUT ITS MIND BLOWING............

(OH THEY MIGHT FIND FAULT IN ME MISSPELLING FIND OR HEAR....)

[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. [13] But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: (2Th 2:10-13 KJV)

HMMMMMMMM IT SEEMS AS THOSE WHO REJECT GOD, HE WILL REJECT THEM, AND SEND THEM ON THEIR MERRY WAY......

[7] Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2Ti 3:7 KJV)

OH MY GOODNESS, COULD IT BE THOSE THINGS ARE WRITTEN THAT WAY FOR YOU BIBLE BASHERS, GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO FEAST UPON UNTIL THE DAY YOU ARE DISTROYED FOR A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.......


[26] Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. (Mat 10:26 KJV)

[26] [Even] the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: (Col 1:26 KJV)

[5] Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; (Eph 3:5 KJV)

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

WHY SHOULD I LET YOU KNOW ALL THAT I KNOW....OR WHATS BEEN REVEALED, WHY WASTE MY TIME...

THE TRUE PEOPLE IN GOD WILL SERVE HIM, AND OTHERS WILL SERVE THEIR god(s) THATS THE FACTS....................BE BLESSED


[40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this
untoward generation. (Act 2:40 KJV)
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Default 16-09-07, 02:28 AM

Oh Yeah And Show Me A Prophacy That Has Failed As Well Please, I Would Like To Know, People Say The Bibles Corrupted, And It Contradicts, But All That Is Written Has Or Will Soon Exist,


[40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this
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hey! fine 1952 give me the link to that page and I bet there is a logical emplanation fo rtht link.
Hello Dr. James!

The explanation is quite clear:

70 Little Hebrew Men known as the Septuagint (e.g. Greek word)

culling
gleaning
mistransliterating
mistransposing
misleading

over a period of 100 years!

Too many cooks in an already overly spiced stew if you ask me!

PS Thanks for the suggestion, though!
PSS I have read all of your links. Very interesting!


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Default 17-09-07, 02:55 PM

I won't make any comparison with any other book because there is no book like unto the holy bible.

but i will again ask what prophesy has gone unfullfilled or that has been contridicted? Not many left unfullfilled.

We know that you are not well versed in the scriptures, but since you are an educated woman such the scriptures and fine out the thread that runs from Genisis to Revelation and tell us what error you find that would preclude the Will of God from being accomplished.

Don't think you can.


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