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Source of Reference:

"Stolen Legacy" by Dr. George G.M. James

Know that salvation existed long before the Vatican in Rome, Italy shot off it first man made 'canon'.

At one point in history the ancient religion of Egypt enjoyed worldwide prominence. The expanse of its empire reached from the "Far East" to "Brittany" to "Northern Asia". Strangely, its basic principles did not reach the shores of Greece until after Alexander (the so-Called Great) reached Egypt. Soon after his rape and pillage--Greece sprang up as an pseudo-intellectual giant albeit a slew of cavalier changes here and there. Further, when the Roman Empire came into power, they took close notes while incorporating the ideals and concepts that Greece had "originally" plagiarized from Egypt.

Hence, conversely and contrary to conventional wisdom, Philosophy--namely, Religion is the birth child of Egypt with it's Priests and Hierophants as caregivers--not Greece!

i. Sensuert I claimed a great part of Europe in his conquests, about 1900/BCE.
ii. Akhenaton (i.e. Ikhnaton) claimed Western Asia, Syria and Palestine, about 1500/BCE.
iii. Tuthomosis III claimed Nubia to Northern Asia.

Source: Bredsted's Conquest of Civilization, page 84; Diodorus, 128; Manetho; Strabo; Dicaercaus--John Hendricks Ancient Egypt, Volume I.

"Summum Bonomo" was the well-tuned student in the ancient theory of Egyptian salvation-- or more plainly "The Supreme Good in Man".

The attainment or transformation of man into a Godlike status (i.e. from that of a lower animal nature to that of a higher divine level) was accomplished via the following points of interest:

Wisdom
a. controlling your own thoughts
b. controlling your own actions

Fortitude
c. maintaining devotion of purpose
d. sustaining faith in the teacher to teach truth
e. sustaining faith in self to assimilate the truth
f. sustaining faith in self to wield the truth

Justice
g. remain free of resentment under persecution
h. remain free of resentment under wrong-doing

Temperament
i. cultivate/distinguish between right and wrong
j. cultivate/distinguish between the real & unreal

The process of purification involved "merging" the mind (i.e. study of philosophy: religion) "with" the body (i.e. use of esoteric principles) The baptism of water was followed by the baptism of fire. The entire process prepared the initiate to graduate into a harmony with GOD, Nature and Man.

In addition, it was the soul responsibility of the graduate to work out his own "salvation", with out a mediator.

This last point is important since it vastly differs from the Christian approach of "divine" intervention by a Romanized Christ.

The Egyptian knowledge of:

1. transmigration of the soul
2. the immortality of the soul
3. the body as the tomb of the soul

...inspired the process of embalming the body after death. A technique widely used in "current" times.

©Very Fine/1952 -- 2006

the roman catholic church is not the representation of what Christ taught.

think that this world is not in need of a savior? look around msfine.

there is no way that man can get himself out of the mess that is being concocted daily. the swiftness of the consequences of yesterday has changed everything. there is not a political solution that will satisfy 1/5th of the worlds population at any one time for two months running. too many variables in the psyche of man.

if there truely is no real savior [sic] then we are truely doomed.

but alas. God did not abandon us. Jesus Christ paid the price for the salvation of the world for those who will believe.

[quote=Fine1952;1436953]The self realization that is honed and toned from within and has no third party association nor affiliation!

I am Fine1952 and I approve this message

So do I, each one of us is sovereign.

[quote=Jay Jay;1438354]
fine:

you put a lot of stock in the ancient egyptian belief systems and just mentioned the immortality of the soul.

i have looked at quite a few tombs that have been discovered through out time and i wonder if the egyptian belief system has taken a hit.

[quote=Jay Jay;1438354]@Jay Jay

Your comment creates a whole nother perspective in my head, I had not thought of it like that!

@Fine1952

The term sovereign applies to all of your post, from day one people have it drummed into them not to have their own thoughts, not to have their own actions but to be dictated to by others and to be be told what to do.

Now I've seen the replies to your post, the thing that slapped me in the face was the reaction not to pay any sort of attention to what you was saying, but to read their own interpretation to what they think you are saying. Having your own thoughts and mind is the very simple basic message I got from your post.

To this I say... it is because we are all sovereign, not robots.


But yet it's the Roman churches version of Christianity that you follow? this is what I find puzzling when people say something of this ilk coming from an semetic perspective, Jesus basically said to follow his way to become a perfect person....to kind of emulate him, to be like him to gain salvation, the roman church told you to pray to him and everything will be ok.......have you forgotten becoming the perfect person?

The world needs a saviour and the saviour is you, change yourself

do you know very much about the teachings of Christ jay jay? what is wrong with them. Christians are not zombies to say the least as some on here would make it seem.

now as far as following jay jay, there are plenty of rules and regulations that we all have to follow. you can just head out and murder someone. you should not bother someone else's property.

there are certain things that society expects of you when you are in public.

rules are all around us that we must comform to.

emulating the life of jesus should be the aim of every believer. it is an excellent life style.

do a little study of Christianity and tell me the same.

very few of those against Christianity know anything in depth. does not surprise me.

I was never a conformist. Christianity does not make us all cookie cut Christs. The inner man is what has to conform and then the actions will follow.

Christ never used a computer, but he did deal with people one on one and en mass. friends and enemies. His way is great.

Ohh.... a reactionary rview without paying actual attention to my reply, I suggest you read it again, if you paid close attention to the bible you would notice that Jesus never once claimed he would die for the worlds sins and thus bring about our salvation......so who gave you this idea? was it not Paul the Roman who never knew Jesus or the disciples? was it not the roman church who gave you a western europe christianity? because if truth was to be told in the 921 years of the Byzantine Empire (give or take a few years) the main argument was between the Melchite Dyophysitic Coptic Egyptians and the Arianist/Monophysite Coptic Eygptians was about the nature of Christ (was Christ human or not and what was the atrributes Christ had - to put it in basic terms)

To throw you own words back at you.....do a little study of Christianity and tell me the same, very few of those inside Christianity know anything in depth. this does not surprise me. People seem to forget I was raised a roman catholic and all denominations of Christianity practised today spawn from them.

sorry that you got tangled up in catholicism jay jay.

28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Matt 20:28 (KJV)