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16-10-07, 06:37 PM
"In this world, men and women study many, many years to qualify themselves to wear a title: Doctor, Lawyer, Teacher, Priest, Father, Reverend, etc. Oftimes titles are used to motivate men to strive for these positions of influence and power, but the very means by which men ascend to titles oftimes is the destruction of the organization, which the titles were meant to serve.
"The striving of men and women for positions of influence and power over others is an immature response to the need for organization; for this inordinate striving creates the very disease that ultimately destroys organizations: envy, jealousy, contentiousness, greed...All of which come from false pride."
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16-10-07, 07:31 PM
We cannot be Brothers and Sisters if we are not righteous?
How can we be righteous?
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21-10-07, 08:39 PM
Every Muslim is a brother and sister to every other Muslim. It is not for you or me or anyone else to havethe final say on who is "righteous" and who is not. Only Alah can decide that on the Day of Judgement. In the meantime, consider this:
Prophet Muhammad`s (PBUH) Farewell Sermon
3/30/2007 - Religious Social - Article Ref: IC0107-322
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After praising, and thanking Allah he said:
"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am saying to you very carefully and TAKE THESE WORDS TO THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE PRESENT HERE TODAY.
O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. ALLAH has forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. Allah has Judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be waived...
Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware of following him in small things.
O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
O People, listen to me in earnest, worship Allah, say your five daily prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.
All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.
Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.
O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O Allah, that I have conveyed your message to your people".
IslamiCity.com - Prophet Muhammad`s (PBUH) Farewell Sermon
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21-10-07, 08:56 PM
There will never be another muslim prophet or apostle.
What did the reference to Arabs mean. I thought that some on here hath declared that Islam did not originate with Arabs but in Africa.
just aslking...
The need to appear correct becomes more important than the truth....JJRousseau]
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22-10-07, 11:09 AM
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Every Muslim is a brother and sister to every other Muslim. It is not for you or me or anyone else to havethe final say on who is "righteous" and who is not. Only Alah can decide that on the Day of Judgement. In the meantime, consider this:
Prophet Muhammad`s (PBUH) Farewell Sermon
3/30/2007 - Religious Social - Article Ref: IC0107-322
Number of comments: 123
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After praising, and thanking Allah he said:
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O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the QURAN and my example, the SUNNAH and if you follow these you will never go astray.
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IslamiCity.com - Prophet Muhammad`s (PBUH) Farewell Sermon
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Who / Where are the ones who have not gone astray in Islam?
Where are the righteous?
Manifest the power.
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22-10-07, 08:34 PM
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There will never be another muslim prophet or apostle.
What did the reference to Arabs mean. I thought that some on here hath declared that Islam did not originate with Arabs but in Africa.
just aslking...
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The Arabs descend from the Holy Prophetess Hagar (Peace and Belssings be upon her): Front for the Unification and Development of Africa and Arabia. Hagar was an African. Prophet Ibrahim was probably Asian. Nevertheless, he is Father of Many Nations, icluding the Christian nations. [Genesis 17:5 ( Genesis, from The holy Bible, King James version]). The most important of these Many Nations from a historical and ideological point of vciew are Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan, and the rest of East Africa, Nigeria and most of West Africa, Egypt and all of North Africa, Malagasy and most of islands nations surrounding Africa, plus much of central and souhtern Africa. Simply stated all of Africa is part of Ibrahims's Many Nations. And, I mean this not just in a spiritual sense as in the case of the European Christians, I mean this in a direct biological sense in that most African nations descend directly from the Ibrahaim through Hagar. (Peacer and Belssings be upon all of the Holy Prophets). Furthermore, the Garden of Eden is in Africa: Genesis 2:8-16 ( Genesis, from The holy Bible, King James version)
From a strictly geo-political, scientific standpoint, the Arabian Peninsula is an integral part of the African continent. Study a map. It is best to see the dry-land link between Africa and Arabia from a satelite image showing the link between Suez in Africa and Sinai in Arabia. ( Suez Canal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) So, thoughout recoreded history, there has never been a physical divide between aArabia and Africa, between Africans and Arabs.
The problem is we have all been victimized by zionist propaganda to make us think that Arabia is not in Africa. This way the zionists can take control of our land in Palestine.
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22-10-07, 08:59 PM
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There will never be another muslim prophet or apostle.
What did the reference to Arabs mean. I thought that some on here hath declared that Islam did not originate with Arabs but in Africa.
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Muslim is NOT a race or nationality of people from a specific part of the world
'Arab' does NOT mean one is a Muslim...NOT all Arabs are Muslim..just as NOT all Americans are Christian
Al Islam did NOT originate with the Arabs of the Arabia Peninsula......
Brotha Abdurratin...be careful with Wikipedia....its NOT a source that has been edited for validity...anyone can edit and change the content..
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22-10-07, 10:31 PM
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Muslim is NOT a race or nationality of people from a specific part of the world
'Arab' does NOT mean one is a Muslim...NOT all Arabs are Muslim..just as NOT all Americans are Christian
Al Islam did NOT originate with the Arabs of the Arabia Peninsula......
Brotha Abdurratin...be careful with Wikipedia....its NOT a source that has been edited for validity...anyone can edit and change the content..
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so you are saying that Mr. Farakan did not say that, but that it was a reedited take from Wikipedia?
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22-10-07, 10:50 PM
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so you are saying that Mr. Farakan did not say that, but that it was a reedited take from Wikipedia?
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Farrakhan is free to say what he likes....that doesnt make him correct or factual....
He doesnt teach from the Quran anyway....most of his references are from the Bible, Mysticism, Gnosticism, Masonry, Judaism, etc.
The Million Man March speech made that clear......
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22-10-07, 11:02 PM
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Farrakhan is free to say what he likes....that doesnt make him correct or factual....
He doesnt teach from the Quran anyway....most of his references are from the Bible, Mysticism, Gnosticism, Masonry, Judaism, etc.
The Million Man March speech made that clear......
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Okay...thanks for clearing that up. I rather thought that this was being rather self righteous to say such things.
I was told many years ago when set upon in the Oakland/San Francisco area that the NOI was basically a black nationalistic movement. And that they did not practice true Islam.
I also heard that this is what Malcolm was killed about. When he returned for Mecca he was enlightened to the point of seeing through what was being pawned off in America as Islam. When he approached Elijah Muhammed he was deemed a threat to the NOI and he was then hit. I believe the Farakan is believed to have been closely related to the plot to kill him.
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24-10-07, 03:52 AM
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. I was told many years ago when set upon in the Oakland/San Francisco area that the NOI was basically a black nationalistic movement. And that they did not practice true Islam.
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I do not think that it has ever een a secret that the Nation of Islam is influenced by such things as the Garvey Movement. But, this does not prove them to be not "practicing true islam". What this type of talk does is sew seeds of dis-unity among us Africans. Now is a time when Unity is needed more than ever. Since Sheik Louis Farakhan first became the leader, I have always tried to find grounds upon which we can have Unity with the Nation of Islam. But, this does not change the fact that the Nation of Islam started in a reactionary and backward America that was isolated from the civilived world. So, much of what we know as the Nation of Islam was developed outside the Islamic traditons.
In Islam, Qur'an has traditonally been transmitted by means of an instituion called al-Hafiz. Al-Hafiz is a person who spends years memorizing Qur'an word-for-word. It is not too far fetched to think that many of the slaves brought to this country were al-Hafiz. Thus Islam was practiced in the traditional way in American slavery. But due to the barbaric conditons of American slavery, there was little time available for traditional prayer and recitation of Qur'an. Even now, we have difficulty finding time to perform the Five Daily Prayers in America. Ramadan for instance was almost never performed because it takes 1-2 hours to recite 1/30 of Qyur'an. After long days of working the cotton fields, people were too tired to spend 2 hours praying and reciting Qur'an each day for 30 days. Plus, due to the hard physical work, it was not advisable to fast.
So, even with al-Hafiz, we did not enjoy the full benefit of Islaimc traditon. This is the nature of this beast. In order for us to be true to all Islamic requirements, we absolutely must change this barbaric culture that we live in order to allow for Five Daily Prayers. This is the real issue. The Nation of Islam has a duty to fight for the right to practice Islam in this country just like every other Muslim has a duty to do so.
It makes no sense to attack the Arabs or the Pakistanis when we all catch hell in America. We need to Unite with the Arabs and all other Muslims to demand the right to pray and practice Islam the same way that it is practiced in all civilized countries in the world.
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I also heard that this is what Malcolm was killed about.
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This "I heard" non-sense is very offensive. I object to it. If you cannot speak from facts, be silent.
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When he returned for Mecca he was enlightened to the point of seeing through what was being pawned off in America as Islam. When he approached Elijah Muhammed he was deemed a threat to the NOI and he was then hit. I believe the Farakan is believed to have been closely related to the plot to kill him.
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So what. Are you some kind of agent sent here to provoke more problems among Muslims? Something is wrong with this line of thinking for sure. And, we need not hestate to call it what it is. The time has come when we must all learn to avoid being tricked by the enemy.
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