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There is a great big difference between what GOD says and what the bible says: when you accept a lie then the lie becomes your truth.

The biblical text is nothing more than a book of long-range planning by white folks about your future, black people. The backbone and premise of our former slavery is the basis for White Supremacy. White Supremacy’s biggest fear is the liberation of black people from the allegoric lies of the bible since our collective mental liberation would ordain racism and racist acts ineffectual.. Therefore, White Supremacy must hold onto these “evil” tenets to remain powerful..

Prophecy is nothing more than pre-planned work. Since the work was pre-planned when the work appears in fruition you think with wonder that it is prophecy coming forth. What a myth!

Many are taught from childhood -- before they can even read and write-- that the bible is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Many are taught from childhood that the bible is the word of GOD. Inside the context of this thinking, if you believe that the bible is the word of GOD then you will believe every single word in this book from cover to cover.

Many phrases in the bible refer to black people as accursed and in need of a master to guide them. This is not GOD talking; this is White Supremacy in its purest form. GOD is pure truth, justice and understanding. Why would such a GOD speak negatively against one group and uplift another?

I’ve mentioned collusion before. Those in collusion are:

Caucasians/Europeans/Greeks
Arabs/Jews-Hebrews

Ask yourself…

1. If Noah was such a righteous man why was he drinking in the first place?

2. Do you think Noah --in his drunken--stupor remembered a so-Called sodomization by Ham?

3. Why was Caanan accursed when it was supposedly Ham who did the alledged deed?

I will answer these questions simply by saying chapter 10 in Genesis is about land, money and power control over Afrika. And if that were not enough chapter 11 goes into the Tower of Babel! Name coding has been brought forth to cover the truth.

Ham is the progenitor of the modern day Afrikan people.
Shem is the progenitor of the modern day Jews-Hebrews & Arab people.
Japheth is the progenitor of the modern day Europeans (e.g. Gentiles)

Because some of you believe the bible is infallible you believe the negative things said about Ham and Caanan. What a brain-washed pity.

In conclusion the bible you hold infallible is of a European-Genesis. Since you believe and accept the words as true then doesn’t that make you a Europeanized Black Christian?

Source: Dr. Ray Hagins


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There is a great big difference between what GOD says and what the bible says: when you accept a lie then the lie becomes your truth.

The biblical text is nothing more than a book of long-range planning by white folks about your future, black people. The backbone and premise of our former slavery is the basis for White Supremacy. White Supremacy’s biggest fear is the liberation of black people from the allegoric lies of the bible since our collective mental liberation would ordain racism and racist acts ineffectual.. Therefore, White Supremacy must hold onto these “evil” tenets to remain powerful..

Prophecy is nothing more than pre-planned work. Since the work was pre-planned when the work appears in fruition you think with wonder that it is prophecy coming forth. What a myth!

Many are taught from childhood -- before they can even read and write-- that the bible is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Many are taught from childhood that the bible is the word of GOD. Inside the context of this thinking, if you believe that the bible is the word of GOD then you will believe every single word in this book from cover to cover.

Many phrases in the bible refer to black people as accursed and in need of a master to guide them. This is not GOD talking; this is White Supremacy in its purest form. GOD is pure truth, justice and understanding. Why would such a GOD speak negatively against one group and uplift another?

I’ve mentioned collusion before. Those in collusion are:

Caucasians/Europeans/Greeks
Arabs/Jews-Hebrews

Ask yourself…

1. If Noah was such a righteous man why was he drinking in the first place? what does noah being drunk have to do with the bible being white supremacy?

2. Do you think Noah --in his drunken--stupor remembered a so-Called sodomization by Ham?

3. Why was Caanan accursed when it was supposedly Ham who did the alledged deed?

I will answer these questions simply by saying chapter 10 in Genesis is about land, money and power control over Afrika. And if that were not enough chapter 11 goes into the Tower of Babel! Name coding has been brought forth to cover the truth.

Ham is the progenitor of the modern day Afrikan people.
Shem is the progenitor of the modern day Jews-Hebrews & Arab people.
Japheth is the progenitor of the modern day Europeans (e.g. Gentiles)

Because some of you believe the bible is infallible you believe the negative things said about Ham and Caanan. What a brain-washed pity.

In conclusion the bible you hold infallible is of a European-Genesis. Since you believe and accept the words as true then doesn’t that make you a Europeanized Black Christian?

Source: Dr. Ray Hagins


Read - Comprehend - Understand and Discern Black People
the bible is a target that is out and in plain sight of all who would try and dismiss it as this or that. it has and will stand as God's word to His people regardless of what any professor says.

i am not sure of the total number of prophesies but if one is not true then the bible is not. show one that has failed.

God made promises in accord with Israel, which have failed?


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the bible is a target that is out and in plain sight of all who would try and dismiss it as this or that. it has and will stand as God's word to His people regardless of what any professor says.

i am not sure of the total number of prophesies but if one is not true then the bible is not. show one that has failed.

God made promises in accord with Israel, which have failed?

As long as the preacher bellows and the choir screams you will swallow every lie whole and empty your pockets!


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As long as the preacher bellows and the choir screams you will swallow every lie whole and empty your pockets!
sorry msfine: i belong to a teaching ministry where we are taught the bible. we encourage people to bring their bibles and read along and study for themselves. we are not like catholic and other churches where bringing bibles are discouraged and homilies are scripted.

and my pastor does not hoop and howl and grab his ear and sling a hanky.

sorry msfine, i escaped that church many years ago.


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1. Who made the Holy Koran or Bible? How long ago? Will you tell us why does Islam re-new her history every twenty-five thousand years?
ANS. The Holy Koran or Bible is made by the original people, who is Allah, the supreme being, or (Black man) of Asia. The Koran will expire in the Year twenty-five thousand; (nine hundred eighty years from the date of this writing).
The Nation of Islam is all-wise and does everything right and exact.
The planet earth, which is the home of Islam, is approximately twenty-five thousand miles in circumference. So the wise man of the East (Black man) makes history or Koran to equal his home circumference---a year to every mile. And, thus, every time his history lasts twenty-five thousand years, he renews it for another twenty-five thousand years.

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are you saying that the koran made by allah is not complete and entire? it has to be changed or updated to keep up with man?

the christian bible is entire and lacks nothing mrmuhammed.


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Salaam (Peace) to all...

Of course the Qur'an is "complete"...for the Time and Purpose for which it was INTENDED. The same is true for the Bible...it is complete for a certain time and period.

When you say that the "Christian Bible" is "complete" and "lacks nothing", WHICH BIBLE are you referring to?
The Catholic Bible - 73 books?
The Protestant (KJV) Bible - 66 books?

If the Original "Christian" Bible had/has 73 books, and the Protestant Bible has only 66 Books, then how can the Protestant Bible be "complete" when it is MISSING 7 BOOKS???

And then, there is the matter of the books that the Bible "ADMITS" are "missing":

1. The Book of the Wars of the Lord: Numbers 21:14.
2. The Book of Jasher: Joshua 10:13, II Samuel, 1:18.
3. The book of Solomon: consisted of three thousand Proverbs. I Kings 4:32.

More "missing" books of the "Christian" Bible:
Missing books of the Bible, where are they and why are they missing?


Jesus, himself, said that "there are many things I COULD tell you, but you can't bear them now". Where are those "many things" in the Bible?

In the book of Revelation, the Lamb receives a Book from Him who sat on the Throne in the Last Days. What book is that?

If the "Christian Bible" is "complete" and "lacks nothing", then where are the "many things" mentioned in the Bible? What is that "other Book" mentioned in the Bible?

And why is there a NEED for "another book" if the "Christian Bible" is complete and lacks nothing?

MIND YOU -- I keep and study the King James (Scoffield) version of the Bible, but my perception and interpretation of it, being given to me by the Hon. Elijah Muhammad, enables me to make much more sense of it NOW, than when I was a "Christian", years ago.

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Salaam (Peace) to all...

Of course the Qur'an is "complete"...for the Time and Purpose for which it was INTENDED. The same is true for the Bible...it is complete for a certain time and period.

When you say that the "Christian Bible" is "complete" and "lacks nothing", WHICH BIBLE are you referring to?
The Catholic Bible - 73 books?
The Protestant (KJV) Bible - 66 books?

If the Original "Christian" Bible had/has 73 books, and the Protestant Bible has only 66 Books, then how can the Protestant Bible be "complete" when it is MISSING 7 BOOKS???

And then, there is the matter of the books that the Bible "ADMITS" are "missing":

1. The Book of the Wars of the Lord: Numbers 21:14.
2. The Book of Jasher: Joshua 10:13, II Samuel, 1:18.
3. The book of Solomon: consisted of three thousand Proverbs. I Kings 4:32.

More "missing" books of the "Christian" Bible:
Missing books of the Bible, where are they and why are they missing?


Jesus, himself, said that "there are many things I COULD tell you, but you can't bear them now". Where are those "many things" in the Bible?

In the book of Revelation, the Lamb receives a Book from Him who sat on the Throne in the Last Days. What book is that?

If the "Christian Bible" is "complete" and "lacks nothing", then where are the "many things" mentioned in the Bible? What is that "other Book" mentioned in the Bible?

And why is there a NEED for "another book" if the "Christian Bible" is complete and lacks nothing?

MIND YOU -- I keep and study the King James (Scoffield) version of the Bible, but my perception and interpretation of it, being given to me by the Hon. Elijah Muhammad, enables me to make much more sense of it NOW, than when I was a "Christian", years ago.

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Have you considered the Apocrypha?

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since you study the bible and have told us that there are missing books. is that on your authority that you say that there are missing books or did the bible say they were missing.

or did the bible simply allude to these books as it did in reference to a point being made.

if the bible was not complere mrmuhammud then why was there a 'kicker' placed in there about adding to it or taking away from it (Rev. 22: 18 & 19).

please enlighten me to this saying conflicting with where you say there are missing books.

i stand by the 66 books that were original. i am not in agreement with much that catholic's say. you must know that this is where protestants come into play.

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yep, the 66 are sufficient. nothing lacking. they contain everything that a man would need in this life to deal with every prospective dart thrown by satan. it is a road map to heaven. it calms the troubled soul. it saves the lost. it is light out of darkness.

nothing lacking...


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yep, the 66 are sufficient. nothing lacking. they contain everything that a man would need in this life to deal with every prospective dart thrown by satan. it is a road map to heaven. it calms the troubled soul. it saves the lost. it is light out of darkness.

nothing lacking...

This doesn't answer the question. You said 'yep' then you continue to say the current 66 books are sufficient. That doesn't contest evidence of missing books of the Bible neither does this confirm whether or not you consider the (Old Testament)Apocrypha as missing from th