I got my info from this link
A TRIBUTE TO DR. IVAN VAN SERTIMA

It was actually "Dr. Asa Grant Hilliard" who passed August 13, 2007!

Fine

Non-sense. Dr. Clarke has a PHD. But, I have never found him to be crdible enough to study any of his works, so-called works. This is beceause those who refer him to me are always some kind of mis-guided, reactionary, anti-Pan-Africanist, pro-zionist fools. Ye shall be known by your fruits. I am afraid that if I pay much attention to Clarke's so-called works, I will end up just as bvrain-washed as too many of our people are already. Besides, there is only 2e4 hours in a day. Instead of wastinf valuable time on Clarke et al, I study the likes of Ahmed Sekou Ture, Kwame Nkrumah, Kwame Ture, Amilcar Cabral and many, many others, including Dr Booker T. Washington, Dr. W.E.B. Dubois, Alexander Crummel, Martin Delaney, Marcus Garvey, Amy Jacques Garvey. Shriley Graham Dubois.

There are many scholars and intellectuals available for us to study. But, I would especially reccomeend Amilcar Cabral beceause his works are in largely in English and he plaes a great deal of emphasis on our needs to develop a new African intelligentsia.

The picture you keep posting here is a trick. It is a lie not based in facts, except it is a well-known facty that Arabs had African and other slaves prior to Islam being Revealed. To the extent that Dr. Van Serima is repsonsible that the picuture, I dis-agree with him too. My dis-agreement is based on the implication that Islam promoted slvery. That is a lie.


That is a hand drawn picture, not a photograph. The fact remains that we have absolutely no eveidence that African slaves have descended in Arab or Muslim societies such as we see in this societies where the badge of slave descent is placed upon the face of every African.

how many times do we have to go through this excercise?

Arabs...Chaeldeans...ALL Black....

Enslaved everyone!!!!

EVERY Arab is and was NOT a Muslim as are NOT ALL Muslims Arabs!!!!!

Wasn't talking about others inflictions on us I'm talking about our seeming inability to work it out, you'd think by now that those high spiritual concepts and religions we had would have offered some protection yet nothing.

If we've always been attacked by these, ''horrified'' albinos then why didn't we realize they were a problem from day one? You'd think there'd be communication from the Indus to Kemit warning of hordes of envious albinos but... nothing. Didn't the high priests of Kemit notice anything odd about them and think to report back?

I am more than aware of interpretations regarding polytheism and monotheism, all is an aspect of the singular blah blah... but where is that in us now? From teachings on 'oneness' and unity to cultural divide and lack of vision, it doesn't add up.

As people with color in our skin, we couldn't fathom being erased simply through reproduction with someone who looked different from us. However, it was a real fear for those that deem themselves "white". Hence why the caste system was constructed upon Aryan invasion of the Indus Valley (ancient India) to become what is now the Hindu religion. Therefore, since we looked at all of humanity as one, we simply didn't understand the threat from their unconscious perspective.

I might also say that writing is more pronounced with nomadic cultures, as to carry information with them. Africans had writing, but it is almost over-stated in Indo-European culture given their cultural nomadism. As we were continually forced to migrate through Asia and Africa, I suppose the information was simply not retained as to their history. This retention of historical documentation is perhaps a major component to our downfall.

Off topic...

We were/are the masters of psychology, there would have been little if anything the priests of the Kamu and those of other high civilizations didn't know in regard to their mentality... even then their treatment of us would have made their problems obvious as it does today.

Lastly, the europeans didn't suffer from that hatred toward us during the middle ages, it came about as they began to demonise the Moors, leading into the 1400s and the Maafa where it took hold. They didn't randomly attack and lynch the Black Moors or heckle them in the street as would be expected.

In all honesty, our Nile Valley ancestors were certainly great, but they were not that great. Hell, if they were then they not be supplanted by Arabs today. This lack of understanding of the maladapted white psyche is not a perception problem of only the ancient Egyptians, but of all the Classical Black Civilizations including Sumer, ancient China, ancient India (indus valley), Mesopotamia, Ur/Chaldea, and so forth...and apparently prevails as a perception problem today.

When it comes to the Indo-European hatred of "black" people, you should familiarize yourself with the Aryan invasion into the Indus Valley or ancient India. The caste system with "whites" on top and "blacks" (or Untouchables) on the bottom with some of the most inhumane practices against the blacks, is a very ancient example of white paranoid psychopathic aggression. There are evidences of it in the Roman empire, amongst the Arabs, Hittites, and many others in antiquity.

As a matter of precision and clarity, we should keep in mind that the caste system in India is based on polytheism as a religion. Namely untouchability is derived from Hinduism. This is a crucial point to make as it allows us to perceive who are historic enemy has been. It also allows us to see potential for alliances against these enemies in the present and the future. Specifically, we should not confuse the Hindus with the Muslims who have opposite conceptions of GOD and religion.

A few years back, a big deal was made about the Taliban blowing up a Budhist shrine. We need to learn to perceive the significance of these sorts of events as they relate to our African interests. In Islam, there is but One GOD Worthy of Worship. Thus, Islam has no basis for racism. This is important. Notice the Hajj going on now in Saudi Arabia. The pilgrims come from all parts of the world. There is always a very significant African representation during Hajj. There are rich and poor, male and female. But, all are brothers and sisters. Their spiritual equality is emphasized by their similar appearances. Everybody wears exactly the same things; two white cloths. This shows the Unity of GOD and the Unity of Humanity.

The fact of the matter is, Islam cannot be compared with any other religion when it comes to racial, ethnic and social egalitarianism. Islam has no history of racial segregation similar to what we see in all western societies. There are no white congragations and black congregations. All Muslims stands shoulder to shoulder, toe to toe, with all other Muslims when in congreagtion. This is because Islam has always placed great value on egalitarianism.

And, I am convinced that this fact alone helps to explain why Islam is the world's largest religion and its fastes growing. No matter how many times the enemy lie about 72 virgins and terrorism and all of that other non-sense, the Muslim Community is at least 25% of the world's population

Do not get me wrong. I know that some Muslims are fools and have been taught by Christians, Hindus and westerners to hate Africans. I know a few, personally. But, the main thrust of Islam is against racism in every way, shape and form. Thus, there is no history of African slavery in Muslim lands comaparable to what we all see each and every day in the western countries. Specifically, no Muslim country has untouchables or descendants of slaves as an identifiable under-class. None. Period.

Not that it matters abd:

but you say that islam not racist. and it sounds as if you are saying that men have never come as wolves in sheep clothing teaching error and for selfish gain.

this comes from the NOI thread:

MINISTER ERIC MUHAMMAD SPEAKS
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have you heard some of farakon's speeches? not racist eh?

The last time I paid much attention to any Farakhan speech was in 1978 when he said that Al-Hajj Elijah Muhammad was not dead.

Besides, the NOI is a very small percentage of Muslims in the USA. And, they are all but invisible on the world stage. Few, if any ever take the time to perform Hajj. The last NOI person that I know of who performed Hajj was Al-Hajj Elijah Muhammad before he died. This is why we call him Al-Hajj.

Interestingly enough, the Hajj is just one of the Five Pillars of Isam that the NOI is shaky about. I have seen some of them fake the Shahada, Confession of Faith. When some of them say they believe Muhammad is a Messenger of GOD, they actually mean in their hearts that Elijah Muhammad is a Messenger of GOD. But, all true Muslims know that Muhammad (Peace and Blessings be upon h