I haven't said anything leaning either way. I asked you to provide examples instead of hollow rhetoric.

These are a few of your quotes:

The entire world is enslaved to racial-imbued paranoid white psychopathic aggression or the psychological maladaptation of White Supremacy. That is every Continent, every country, and virtually every stock of humanity.

As for someone saying you are only a slave to whatever you subject yourself to...my ancestors dehumanized in chattel slavery didn't subject themselves to that torment, so that line of thinking is terribly flawed.


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You are assuming many things I didn't even say. I said the world is enslaved to the notion of White Supremacy. These "enemies" that control everything are not necessarily Europeans, but all those who deem themselves "white" either consciously or unconsciously. These enemies are often Arabs, Africans, Indians, and East Asians alike, as they have endorsed the notion themselves that light/white is right. That has been the only functional oppression in the world....the lighter over the darker...psychopathic and paranoid notions resulting in white aggression...



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This would be funny if it wasn't so egregiously wrong. "Racism" did not start in Europe; perhaps the formal analytical dissection of it, but it has been on this earth since about 4000 BCE since the advent of the Indo-European or "White" man, and subsequent bas.tard-child, the Semite (Arabs, Hebrews, etc.). Can we for once use some common sense here when it comes to the origin of racism?

There is no question that the first man was out of Africa, and all men on Earth in Africa and Asia were of the black or brown skin hue. How then could a tiny group of people out of northwest Eurasia, mutate/adapt (through the Ice Age) to have "white" skin, then destroy each civilization in Asia while maintaining White Dominance? If they would have mixed peacefully with those already on Earth, then they would not exist today in the same capacity, as everyone would have been at least brown. However, they had to systematically kill, rape, murder, and exploit people based on darker skin color lest they would have either stayed small or died out. That isn't what happened. The Arab/Semite is a product of "white" infiltration into Classical Black Civilizations in Asia, destroying them with the subsequent product of the Arab to move on to destroy the next Black Civilization...which is why their culture is nomadic because they never had a civilization of their own. They started with Sumer, then the Chaldeas, then ancient China, then the Indus Valley (ancient India), then Mesopotamia, and it goes on and on until they successfully penetrated Africa via the Nile Valley after centuries of incursions. It hasn't stopped today and has persisted for 6,000 years and counting.

The more pronounced "white" skinned Indo-Europeans simply went West and North into Europe killing off the indigenous darker people who had not suffered mutation from extreme Ice Age effects. There is ample archaeological evidence of the original Druids (people in Ireland), France, and Britain being a "black" people as described by the Romans and other European conquerors/expeditionists. Why didn't the "whites" live in peace with these ancient Britons, inhabitants of present-day France and Ireland instead of just killing (as they did with the Native Americans)? For the same reason of fear of white genetic annihilation...essentially they have a racially-imbued psychopathic paranoia which is much older than a few hundred years when the Euros developed enough reasoning capacity to make a formal analysis of it.

If you didn't employ selective reading then you would see that I said our problem is by all people who deem themselves "white", consciously or unconsciously, whether African, Arab, European, Indian, Asian, or otherwise.

It is funny how faith based religions always have followers who are comfortable with conjecture and supposition being the bases of everything else they encounter in the world.

Even caucasians will tell you that although all ethnic groups have their ills, caucasians are by far more barbaric in their approach to the rest of the world's populous than anyone else.

Christians (especially the ones I came across earlier in life when I was one) often speak of the barbarism of Africans and their evils based upon supposition and conjecture alone and can never prepare proof of humanity's evil across the board. You see if Africans haven't committed equal evil then it makes no sense that these things should happen to them, and this cannot be justified to African christians through the biblical text.

Amatuer historians should stay clear of speaking on the African's position in history because they will never know that Africans have given much more to humanity than they have taken from it.

I am an avid reader of history and one that doesn't romanticize African history. I will say that as all human groups have, Africans have committe injustices against others. However I will say also that there have been no mass genocides, destruction of artifacts in order to mask the origin of their makers, destruction of landmarks in order to mask the origin of their creators, socially constructing poor situations in order to increase drug abuse and alcoholism, creating a situation where worldwide another group of people are viewed as enetically inferior, using humans as test subjects for fatal experiments, mass rapes, murder of children, purposful destruction of historical documents, purposfully writing out of history another group etc. Whilst I will accept there have been ills against others, I know that it is nothing like what caucasians have done around the world.

Also I would finally like to state that the biblical account of "egyptians" and their ills in Africa are for the most part (i'm talking about 96%, the remaining 4% being tha names of landmarks) as real as cinderella.

PS you should pick up a book called 'The Iceman Inheritance' and also 'The Chosen From The Caucasus' by Michael Bradley. I only say this because in your posts, you always seem to be saying that all people have committed just as much attrocities as others and that just isn't true.

hahahaha i yeild bredder, you do not hate whites? hahahah

so what are you saying as far as the black man and the rest of the races when it comes to atrosities?

have you taken a look at some of the things that have taken place in the mother land over the past 40 years? Pick up a paper today and check out the headlines.

I just feel that in order for us to help our selves and those coming behind us we have to accept the reality. some whites have done some victious things to us. the American experience and the slavery of the last millennium did us great harm as a people.

I don't believe that preaching hate will move us any place forward. the world has changed to the degree that even the whites who are supremacists have to recognize the position that things are now in. Generals officers in the militaries of the world, high ranking politicans, police and emergency forces manned by great numbers of blacks, business and commerce leaders are of color and the list goes on.

we certainly have made progress dispite of the paranoia you have and if it were true with the 'masters' still being in power.

even though hatred is still the mindset of many whites world wide. an over riding factor today is money or green power. they want production and consumers regardless of colors. black people for the most part are the best consumers because we are gonna spend today and not worry about saving etc.

put slavery back in the mix, who will be the watchers? who will be the keepers of the prisons and overseers while to rich sashay around globe trotting. too much is in the open people. no one will stand for that any more especially the wealthy. they want your labour and money earned.

Christian tactic No2: Have a discussion with yourself and nevermind what the other person actually said.

I am not saying anything about Africans and atrocities. What I am saying is that what you have been saying, you have been doing so because if you do not, the world wouldn't make sense.

You see I am well aware of the attrocities that have happened in Africa in the past 40 years but those have been Africans harming Africans with a little help. I have ever said Africans need not take responsibility for that.

What you have been saying is that people are equally proned to harm other ethnic groups and there is no historical basis to back that assumption. I am saying that I think your assertions thus far have been made either consciously or unconsciously in an effort to make your world make sense.

I didn't say anyone should preach hate and I do not accept the assertion that I suffer paranoia based on a conversation you are having with yourself. I did not say that we have not moved anywhere so I don't know why you're talking about what industry's Africans have managed to infiltrate.

The difference between what I will say and what you will say is that your words seem to largely be based on belief rather than fact. What I am saying to you I can prove historically with ease.

Had you decided not to comfort yourself with the false assertion that I am a mindless hateful militant and asked me what I think about caucasians, I would say to you that African people the world over have a large list of ills that they have to deal with and whilst it is important to know what caucasians have done and are still doing to African people, it is also important that we realise that we also bear responsibility for our reactionary nature.

When you are discussing these issues, you should try not to dismiss people who are speaking about the effects of white supremacy because I'm sure you're a reasonable person and if you sat down and thought about how much of what you say about African people can be proven, you'd see you aren't in a position to dismiss so easily.

PS, try using a macro perspective instead of a micro one. In the USA Africans are consumers and necessary ones however if you think about the fact that outside of Africa, we are always in the minority and for that reason alone we are not the target consumers for even most of the products we're responsible for making, eg, hip hops target consumers are caucasian males between the ages of 14-25. If Africans in Africa do not have the spending power to consume, Africans are not and cannot consume at the rate necessary to make us the highest priority consumers as the largest populous of Africans lives in Africa. As capitalism works, those with the most money are those targeted for consumption of goods. No matter where you go on the planet, Africans have never been more than secondary in that regared in the past 100 years.

i am glad to hear that tehuti.

Ras:

you spent a lot of time psychoanalyzing me bredder. yes i am old, yes i am illiterate, and yes i am a christian for life.

and no i have not denied that black people have been the victims of atrocities mainly by whites but not exclusive to that race. no i do not excuse these acts. no i do not believe