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vex Jamaican can bell the cats - 06-12-07, 09:09 PM

JAMAICA CAN BELL THE CATS.

We can fix the problem the country is having. jump on this link.
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Default 11-12-07, 08:20 PM

Yes who indeed is going to bell the cat. Fat cats at that. Since politics and crime are so entrenched in JA the only thing is to get rid of the damn cats. Because them puss come in like thief in the night. And even when the cat bell ring who is going to listen out for it and not see blind and hear deaf.

The Cuba tactic would not work in Jamaica. Make man work cane piece? It would just start another Tacky's War.
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vex It will work. - 12-12-07, 01:19 PM

The Cuban tactic can work any where. The cat have to work when solders standing by with big guns. Death before dishonor
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The Cuban tactic can work any where. The cat have to work when solders standing by with big guns. Death before dishonor
Death before dishonour? You been listening too much Mad Cobra? LOL. DrJ is it slavery you want to bring back to Jamaica? I agree with your sentiments but would rather engage them on some public projects coupled with training. Now as you say if they have money for cricket then they have money to deal with public health such as water/ light and basic amenties in every garrision/ ghetto /idler area. Even in limited scope if money is tight.

Which brings me back to the my qusetion I have in mind for you? Who is the first cat to be bell in your view.
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Talking hello to you bro tokuma - 17-12-07, 11:56 PM

Bredda tokuma. All ia want to see is the violence stop. The killing of policemen must stop. Slavery never gone any where, it is still here. Some people still getting $10 an hour US, what do you call that?
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DJ got to agree with BT..Cuban tactics are based on a different cultural and political dyanamic dare I say cultural discipline..

Sorry to disagree. Nuff JA police need shooting dead..Its call crime prevention... You see it is not crime that shape police response in many countries it is police behaviour which shape criminal response..

All of us have met Jamaican police officers which make us just shake our heads...who is worse them or criminals..god knows..not to besmirch decent hard working 9-5 officers just trying to do a job and earn a bread..
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Default 18-12-07, 04:15 PM

Fredblack 2. We have to give credit to them even though there are some bad ones among them. We will never get rid of the bad people. It is the same thing in the churches, there are some bad pastors. Bad teachers, bad solders.

However, we had to look upon the few good ones and cred them for the work regardless of how the bad ones are behaving.
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Dr James. I ask you again sir who is going to bell the cats?
No point talking about a few bad ones when the good ons cannot work properly because of corrupt extra judicaiary killings. Fred is saying that the bad man response to killing officerts / high ranking at that is only a natural human response to knowing that police have a shoot to kill policy even before arrest is thought about. If they find you with a gun your dead. I hear a Lady talking about her husband is a dead man if he dont have his gun permit. And he is a policeman. Can a good officer work in such an environment. Things were better in the wild west.

Jamaican police are doing quite well killing people and criminals and the killing never cease. So obviously the outkill policy is not working.

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However, we had to look upon the few good ones and cred them for the work regardless of how the bad ones are behaving.

So how can the good ones work effectively and not be undermined by how the bad are behaving. Surely there can be no 'regardless' when it comes to that. May as well tie a donkey by its hoofs and ask it to carry heavy load.

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What do you think we should do?
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Default What do you think we should do? - 10-01-08, 07:56 PM

How do you supose we solve the problem? Can the cat be belled? What is your input on the subjects?
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I think number one any leadership in Jamaica should be a coalition leadership. That way political tribal war could be reduced and it would reduce non govermental influences on patronage for power/guns.

2) Since garrisons provide about 85% of the killing fields I would literally bulldoze the garrison areas. Every one of them and replace with some temporay prefab accomadation (which will be better than ghetto living for a start). Move Jungle people away from reema/ etc.. and deal with forced re-location in trouble spots. No point mashing up the ghetto and leaving people to fester their old greviances from 19 god knows time.

3) Change the constitution much like Venezuala where local people have regular meetings to discuss their issues and bring to the government. So no more Don man run areas where there is a Jamaica within Jamaica.

4) Send for some patriotic army man from the UK and the USA and trsutworthy JA soldiers to form a special crack unit..with madate from local leaders (not Dons) to take out the Dons /their supporters/ and anyone else who want to wave a big gun.

5) Nationalise the tourist and bauxite industries.

6) Prepare for invasion from the USA.

I could go on... what you think for starters?
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Oh and how to inplement this. Set a day for a mass demonstration outside Jamaica parliament. Just masses of people demanding the above and demanding that they be heard. Just like the monks came out in that Asian country ( name escapes me). Lock down the damn country for months if need be. I suggest some JA people with money outside the country fund and nuture a third party with initial claims to join the two existing parties. Just like the CIA go about things/ obviously without wanton violence and on the side of social justice. A 3-5 year program would be a reasonable time to develop their own media/ TV station/ buying off some DJ's to talk certain things only..//finding out who in the UWI will support the program.. and waging a war of positive proganda. Informing people what their rights are in the constituition and printing it on box juice/ patty wrappers/ everything.. properly politicise the people so they cannot be bought off with curry goat and loud music. Then people will begin to see what is wrong and what is right in the constitution and amed or throw out accordingly.


In the meantime (after the revolution) work can be developed via public works and beutification involving strictly unemployed with a view to free training from those who live in the West. Everything from plumbing to archtecture to running a business. Invite those Jamaican by parentage and by birth to offer their skills like national service at the expense of the governemnet in free housing etc. So you keep the people busy and increase their skills same time. Even if they do leave for wages your exportuing a wage earning group who will by nature bring foreign currency back into the country. A win win situation.

Dr. I soon run for prime minister you know. You like my mandate?

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Default How the cat get bell - 10-01-08, 11:29 PM

Eventually after the crminal and Don man are rooted out (not killed if possible but used as double agents if need be) there will appear bells around the appropiate cats. A national enquiry into the rise of garrisons should be commissioned and Seaga/ and Manley's supporters collegues brought to justice under crimes against the Jamaican people. I propose no one leader but a confedarcy of leaders from the various parishes that are selected via local organsisations to agree on a national agenda. The various ministeries then work for these people.

All major hotels would be brought under public ownership making tourism government's business with goverment employees. Waiters/ managers the lot/ suppliers to hotels will be government suppliers and so on. Too much money to be re-distributed going into too little hands at the moment. Sandals would be first on the list. All popluar films / media and populart music will expressely have no reference to ganster life..outlaw its rass. We would need some experts then to set a program of propanganda that counters gun and the killing culture. Jamaica people especially young bros love too much gun films/ use terms that glorify killing in popular expressions that show that killing and the wild west mentality is rooted in certain parts of the national psyche.

Church will not reverse this. National prayer days will not reverse this. You got to give people cold hard facts. Empower them with a stake in the country. And reveers the them against us mentality.

And the above is not even giving it serious thought. Alot of holes to be picked Im sure but its a good start in my view.

What say ye?

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Default 11-01-08, 04:31 PM

Hmm as I thought. A one sided discussion.
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