[Agu Bu Oji]

One day us African peoples will be demanding the return of the North from Arab control as those states are currently part of the Arab League and should, ideally, be asked to make the same decision I'm about to ask now as having foreigners sitting around the table as part of the African Union while they are part of the Arab League is surely bad politics (to put it bluntly) it leaves votes on issues wide open to foreign interest remembering that these people (Arabs) have attacked the continent and did not come in peace.

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AU Member States

The question I ask is;

When we Africans in the diaspora unite with the African Union and demand back the North from the Arab league, on which side would you find yourselves?

P.s; This is said with no disrespect to anyones religion.

Peace
B.L

[Prince Hakeem]

Interesting question......still waiting for someone to answer......

[abdurratln]

[quote=Black Lion;1451830

When we Africans in the diaspora unite with the African Union and demand back the North from the Arab league, on which side will you stand?

P.s; This is said with no disrespect to anyones religion.

Peace
B.L[/QUOTE]

I hionestly think you are framing the question incoorectly. Your fialure is roted in your view of Africa in much too low of an opinion. One of Africa's biggest problems is rooted in the fact that so much of its population has been kllied or dipsplaced. So Africa is seriusly under-populated even now with all of its current inhabiatnst, including the Arabs. Few Africans in the Diaspora will ever return to Africa. So, it is crazy to imagine a situation where we can ever benefit by removing even more of our people from Africa, including the Arabs. It makes no economic sense and thus it makes no political sense.

Look at the Sahar Desert. It is huge, a vast open space with few inhabiatants. The few who live there are mostly Arabs. We need to plant trees and put in irrigation to control the growth of Africa's deserts. We eend people to do that. So, not only do we need the current inhabiatnst, the Arabs, we need to encourage new people to go there and recalim these lands. By doing so, we will contribute to a reduction in global warming. Also, the deserts are very sutiable to the production og grain when irrigated. Known oil resources will run out in less than 50 years. When that happens, we will need the deserts to be irrigated so that we can grow grain and cereals to produce new energy sources such as ethanol. Plus, the grains that we plan to produce in the dry-lands can be sold for profit to densely populated Asian countries. Nobody can produce these products chaeper and better than Africa, Thanks be to Allah Who Africa to us, including the Arabs. By selling these products, we will earn huge revenues to finance African development. But, we need people on the lands to do this.

Please stop being foolish and racist and think about what is best for Africa.

[Agu Bu Oji]

Chinweizu: Why Black Africa Should Resist Arab Domination of AU

Warning to Africans in the Diaspora from Libya Gaddafi

One of Africa's biggest problems is rooted in the fact that so much of its population has been killed or displaced.

How so?

So Africa is seriously under-populated even now with all of its current inhabiatnst, including the Arabs. Few Africans in the Diaspora will ever return to Africa. So, it is crazy to imagine a situation where we can ever benefit by removing even more of our people from Africa, including the Arabs. It makes no economic sense and thus it makes no political sense.

Would be interesting to find out what happened to those under (african) populated areas before they became overly populated by arabi. The demographics of certain nations in the north would make for a good read, Ie; The African population based off of the Arab population not to mention the difference in conditions the people there reside in.

Please stop being foolish and racist and think about what is best for Africa.

Badly phrased perhaps but its far from being, ''racist'' or intentionally offensive in any way, I'm simply asking what side you would rather yourselves on... Would you say the Arabs are more your brothers than us Africans?

Why does the spread of Islam seem to bring in an oppressive Arab element along with it? Noting that they feel the same way about us as their caucasian relatives.

Again this is said with no disrespect to anyone or their religion.

[LadyDay]

ooh very interesting topic
it would be nice to read a decent response and not some unrational rant.

[abdurratln]

Originally Posted by Black Lion

Chinweizu: Why Black Africa Should Resist Arab Domination of AU

Warning to Africans in the Diaspora from Libya Gaddafi

When you get serious about studying history you will soon learn that the concept of race orginated in with western Europe in association with slavery. Therefore, it is difficult to impossible to determine the raicial isdentities of most ancient histircal peoples except by seeing their descendants. Thus, by that standard, the4 peoples of North Africa have always been Arabs, Berbers and Arabb-like and Berber-like peoples since before any recorded history. These peoplea are all defined as descendatns of Africans through the the Holy Prophetess Mother Hagar (Peace and Blessings be upon her). So what's the ponit?

All Muslims are bvrothers and sisters. Period. This has little or nothing to do with race or ethnicity.

I do not know why it "seem" that way. But, Arabs are a very, very small percetnage of Muslims worldwide. However, Islam is transmitted trhough through Qur'anic Arabic. Using the Arabic language does not make a person an Arab. Pakistanis, for instance, study the Arabic Qur'an like all other Muslims. But, they are not Arabs. In fact, Asians and Arabs do not much like each other.

[fredblack 2]

Don't think this is a serious proposition myself...Just think about the practical mechanics involved. Furthermore what makes anybody outside a small ideologically driven few believe this is an issue of high priority for Africans anywhere, never mind the practical, legal, political and military practicalities involved.

Sometimes what is gone is gone.You aint moving them Arabs and there is a whole of moral and legal justification which will protect. Its a matter of muscle and Africans on the continent especially from the Diaspora do not have it and I can see many arguments with a sound basis telling them to go and jump...They do not even live on the continent to think they can make those demands..As for the African Union the less said the better..Powerless jokers at best..

[NOI TEMPLE 15]

As Salaam Alaikum

Islam is The blackman's religion. Hard headed disbelieving black people insist on making it the "Arabs" religion. So Muslim becomes synonomous with Arab for these people.

I am a Muslim. I am a Blackman. Islam belongs to me, not Arabs. Islam came from me, not Arabs. Muslim is synonomous with Black, not Arab. When this is understood, the question in moot.

I'LL BE ON THE SIDE OF THE BLACKMAN. PERIOD.

[fredblack 2]

If that is the case its a black man or African religion why do your privilege their language Arabic..Contradiction in terms because that would indicate cultural power and if that is the case then that would suggest political power doesn't it?

[meknow]

Originally Posted by NOI TEMPLE 15

As Salaam Alaikum

Islam is The blackman's religion. Hard headed disbelieving black people insist on making it the "Arabs" religion. So Muslim becomes synonomous with Arab for these people.

I am a Muslim. I am a Blackman. Islam belongs to me, not Arabs. Islam came from me, not Arabs. Muslim is synonomous with Black, not Arab. When this is understood, the question in moot.

I'LL BE ON THE SIDE OF THE BLACKMAN. PERIOD.

The NOI, I would take issue with some of the muslims on here who has said that islam is for all people. you have made it clear that you do not see it that way. so there does not seem to be any room in islam for anyone but black men.

it also would seem from your writing that allah is peculiar to black people. how then would you expect other races to embrace islam as you present it?

[abdurratln]

I consider these people to be mainly brain-washed, non-thinking, ignarant human beings who cannot accept fact when fact is provided to them. The only thing these people believe is what Europes tell them to believe. Specifically, they cannot imagine the Ctreator of the Universe to be anything other than blond haired, blue-eyed, pale-skinned Jesus. Never mind GOD. They cannot see GOD. They only thing thay know how to worship is what they can see. And, if what they see is not white, well that's a whole nutter thang.

Amin

But, avoid allowing them to trick you into thinking in terms of skin color. We are Africans. This included those of us who have black complexion and thoase of us who have brown complexion.

In terms of history, the people of Egypt have been much the same color all the way throughout history. They are black, brown, yellowish and almost white. They are all Africans, have always been Africans and will always be Africans. But, most Christians cannot see beyond the racism they learn in Sunday School. Then they want to come into these forums and think they can command "respect" from civilized and intelligent humanity. I do nor repect them at all.

[abdurratln]

Originally Posted by fredblack 2

If that is the case its a black man or African religion why do your privilege their language Arabic..Contradiction in terms because that would indicate cultural power and if that is the case then that would suggest political power doesn't it?