The problem with Christianity... - Page 3

istlota · (#51 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by meknow

I have no interest with any verbatim traditions of men istlota. and i certainly have heard twisted sermons by unlearned and hirling preachers. they did not resonate with me then and certainly won't now.

Well, at least you are honest enough to admit you have heard these sermons. That is a start.

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but i have never heard a preacher say that Christians have a duty to carry on the work of the chosen people. i don't think you have either.

Of course you have. I could fill up this page with references, but here are just four URLs anyone can click on and read about how Christian preachers have turned "support for Israel" into a front for their own demonic goal [remember Thor's mighty hammer?], which is world domination, just as the bible foretold would happen in Revelations 12:17.

Paul wrote:

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Christians spoken about in the four links i provided have ignored Paul's advice. Instead of fighting a war against _spiritual_ wickedness, they have chosen to fight a _physical_ war, in the _physical_ realm.

Why do you think they are doing this?

meknow · (#52 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by istlota

Well, at least you are honest enough to admit you have heard these sermons. That is a start.

Of course you have. I could fill up this page with references, but here are just four URLs anyone can click on and read about how Christian preachers have turned "support for Israel" into a front for their own demonic goal [remember Thor's mighty hammer?], which is world domination, just as the bible foretold would happen in Revelations 12:17.

Paul wrote:

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Christians spoken about in the four links i provided have ignored Paul's advice. Instead of fighting a war against _spiritual_ wickedness, they have chosen to fight a _physical_ war, in the _physical_ realm.

Why do you think they are doing this?

sorry bredder, but these guys don't represent me. i do not adhere to anything that they say out side of scripture. i do not make it a point to listen to them. how i feel about buhs has almost gotten me kicked out of the usa. you know nothing about me, you assume you do because i don't ascribe to all this me against them stuff.

i am consistant because i say the same thing to white people, extremist that is.

I have never said one time that there is not a racial war being pushed by whites. and i have said that there is also a racial agenda being pushed by black people.

this earth does not belong the militant whites nor does it belong to militant blacks. we also have a right to live at peace who do not desire this bull s&%t.

i really understand why your cult relies on trying to discredit the bible. you fear the bible. and with it's long history and seeing attempts not only by other religions but even the jews themselves to do so and the failings.

the bible does not have to be changed every 6 months, 2 years or ever because it is true. the people that you accuse of distorting it were not smart enough to add to it in a manner that is not obviously out side of the criterior originally set.

The bible God Himself speaking to men.

jaziasha · (#53 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by meknow

Jaz:

I was not trying to show you up. Just show you that the bible was not for (TO) those who wanted to be saved. Jesus gave the great commission for us to go and give witness and save those who would be saved.

the bible can not even be understood by those who are not saved. evidence of that is quite clear by the comments on here by those who profess to not be Christians but bible scholars. It takes a mind that is given to the Spirit to understand spiritual things.

I don't profess to know the entire bible docrtine, but i am studying and want to be able to have the knowledge to be able to strengthen the bredders and sistas who cross my path when the opportunity presents itself.

what do you mean that i don't know who Timothy was? that is a pretty loaded question Jaz. you are a professed muslim. if i asked you who muhammed was, you have a concept of what and who you think he is. what if my opinion of him differed from yours? who would be right.

It seems to me that you guys study the bible by reading books that others opine about it. you select books to fit in with your islamic concepts. i call that cotton picking study. you pick what you read to support what your agenda is. i don't study that way at all. that really is not studying at all.

You are right about the jews, in the future i will use hebrews in spite of some on here who say that they were not the hebrews.

i will show you who God chose this after noon.

First, read what I wrote again, I said nothing obout Timothy, I only quoted what you said.

Second, I am not Muslim. I respect my Muslim brothers and sisters but I am not one of them.

Third, I have been studying the bible for some time and I realize that it takes a whole range of books to enhance or increase your knowledge of a thing not just the bible.

Fourth, you still have not showed me where the jews were said to be the chosen people.
1 Yet now hear, O Jacob my servant; and Israel, whom I have chosen:
Isaiah 44:1 (KJV)

42 For he remembered his holy promise, and Abraham his servant.
43 And he brought forth his people with joy, and his chosen with gladness:
44 And gave them the lands of the heathen: and they inherited the labour of the people;
Psalms 105:42-44 (KJV)

5 That I may see the good of thy chosen, that I may rejoice in the gladness of thy nation, that I may glory with thine inheritance.
Psalms 106:5 (KJV)

The above is talking about the Nation of Yishrael not the tribe of Yahdah.

Shalom.

meknow · (#54 (**permalink**))

I told you that I was wrong in using Jews. Israel was who the promise was made to througn Abraham. We use Jews incorrectly when speaking of Israel.

but neither does the word jew speak only of Judah.

I will in the future use the correct term instead of Jew.