especially Christianity was specifically given to "our" second set of ancestors "The Slaves" to keep them in line and to teach them to behave." --

While western civilization was set up through greek {e.g. gay} mythology to dominate what "our" first set of ancestors created:

It's kind of funny how foolish people can become when they sometimes are 'educated'.

Anyone who knows the history of slavery in America knows that Christianity was never a design of slavers or slave owners. Christianity which was the major practice in America was introduced to Christians as a side note yes. And quite concievably they saw that the house slaves who were allowed to sit in the balconies were affected by the teachings if they weren't.

And I certainly would agree that it did give hope to those who did not have the gumption to run. But be it known that they did not intend ever for us to be able to read the bible. It was a crime and some whites were punished by death for attempting to and teaching blacks to read. Quakers were hated by the pro slavers.

And what finally was the impetus for the civil rights movement? was it not Christian preachers to and including MLK?

Nat Turner was a preacher well versed in the Bible as was Vessey.

Lemuel Haynes and Richard Allen were Christian ministers. Sorjourner Truth and Harriet Tubbman were God Christians.

If you understand the hold that whites had on blacks in America you would understand that there is no logical way we should have been freed at all. It was the conscience of white Christians that kept the pressure on the slavers.

You have been so brain washed with hatred for another race that you can not see clearly and are no good to the advancement of the black race. since i have been on this site you have blamed whites for everything under the sun and you have more confidence in the wall of Egypt that you do in your self.

You are no different than white bigots who under estimated black people are are suffering for it now.

Fact #1 -- there is but one race the human race. I am cognizant of the role that several other cultural groups have played to shut down and eradicate the Principles of Ma'at.

Fact#2 -- Around 1442 the Pope from the RCC sanctioned slavery by giving Spain and Portugal permission to enslave a people "falsely" labeled as infidels.

Fact#3 -- The civil right movement has been dead for quite a while. MLK, was a boule who disobeyed the one rule of that secret society, making political statements against the gub'ment.

The rest of that garbage you call constructive commentary just isn't!

sorry msfine, but contrary to your faith in what happened in 1442 or 400 years ago, i recognize also what i am faced with and have faced. you choose to trust in griffetti on egyptians walls.

and you call us ignorant. sorry maam, but i choose to be here now. you may be a slave to what you precieve is white supremacy, but many of us rule our own lives as well as we can under whom ever is in power, be it black, white, yellow, red or brown. some one has to be in charge. but i will recieve the whip from no man. not even you.

your ancient fears are of little consequence with what we face today, nuclear war heads that if exploded anywhere on earth will effect the whole. they have meds for your mental state maam.

belief system comes right off the walls of KMT! What you mis-spell as grafetti.

You assume (make an azz) you know me but you do not.

If yoiu did the necessary unglamorou research you would not be filling my posts with this silly nonsense you post as construcive replies.

Thanks for the info sis im gonna do the research and see if the dude is right (i know he is right as i have already documented this knowedge) but im gonna see if this dude is right non the less dont worry about the dude beefing you he maaad cause you upset his conditioning and he wants you to get mad with him and into a rukas dont let the dude change your vibrations just do what you initially indented to do which was to give another concept on how they did lie to us hotep, im ff to bed its 4.37am here in the uk yawn p.s meknow what d you really know please enlighten me ay i aint got time to argue just give me details on what you know.......

and kudo.

I will not allow meknow nothing to ever steal my joy nor my quest for knowledge...

ha haaa you funny keep it coming

stealing joy ummmmmmm

joy of the head is easily lost or disturbed, but joy of the heart is a battle not worth fighting.

playing the victim is really an admittance of lacking confidence in your argument. when one is absolutely certain he (or she) will choose one of two paths. to ignore or to enlighten. one is done with ease the other takes will power.

adios msfine and friend....see you soon ha

sista i am here only to black people and others in open discussion about issues that shaped our circumstances.

i live in America, grew up in the south. my education is minimal as msfine often points out with my misspelling and grammar. I am 57 years old, will be 58 in a month and a half.

I am absolutely proud of my African heritagem my dad was as black as the ace of spade. my mom could have been set in amonst either the jews or arabs and would not have been discovered.

I have felt the brunt of racism from all sides.

I remember when black studies was the thing in the 60s. Nothing helped me over come the desire to do physical battle with white people then learning who I am and from whence I came.

But what I see from some on here is absolutely appalling. I am sure that some are convinced that what they have discovered the truth and that from what i gather black people are responsible for all that is good and all other races for what is bad,

It is easy to get a faith in something and push it according to google. I don't use a lot of cut and paste stuff and mostly ask questions about what does not resonate in my spirit. this is aggrivating to most i am sure.

but my point is that I do not want to leave a race of mentally cripple black children when i die.

we are one of the races upon the earth. we have had great tymes in history and did great things. the black race is responsible for some great achievements in the history of the world. but we are not unlike any other race as far as humanity goes.

i have to fight race hate in America and then be a part of it. i do not want to leave this for my kids and grandkids. yes i am one, but i will not submit to what i feel is wrong,

sorry about the spelling and grammar sista