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CAN A SINNER FALL FROM GRACE?

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CAN A SINNER FALL FROM GRACE?

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To fall from grace means you must once have been there. So this must refer to a believer. In that case I will first offer this verse>>30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Eph 4:30 (KJV)<<

Now the question will be when is the day of redemption? if a believer is sealed not until he falls from grace how is it that a 'sinner' fallen from grace would be sealed of the Holy Spirit?

Is there a teaching on saving those who have been llost after being saved once?


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Surely by nature all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans.3:23
based on the premise that sin means falling short of the mark of perfection. Romans 5:12. Rom 6:23.
But there is a difference between inherited sin and the sin that we practice.Gal.6:7-8. By reason that 1.Cor. 6:9-11 tell us that those who practice such things will not inherit god's kingdom, it is one thing to accidentall fall from grace but quite a different thing to practice the things that deems our fall from grace. Rev.22:14-15
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You are correct in that inherited sin is what placed us under the penalty of death. (he that believeth not is condemned already-John 3:18).

Sin is all around us. If a person sinneth (continues) in sin then he or she was not saved to begin with.


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Default Mekmiknow!! - 23-01-08, 02:42 PM

Mek me know! I like the way you think and reason. “To fall from something you have to be once there,” Every man that born name was once written into the book of life. Until they came to age of responsibility and sin. However, fallen from grace in this sense, is talking about the believers who once starting out in grace and want to go back to law keeping. A person is not save by sabbath keeping, or by keeping any rules.
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Mek me know! I like the way you think and reason. “To fall from something you have to be once there,” Every man that born name was once written into the book of life. Until they came to age of responsibility and sin. However, fallen from grace in this sense, is talking about the believers who once starting out in grace and want to go back to law keeping. A person is not save by sabbath keeping, or by keeping any rules.

i agree with that. Law only points out sin, it does not correct it. the speeding laws do not stop speeders from exceeding the speed limit. only a conscious decision to do so does. I also see your point on the age of accountability. never heard it explained that way.

but if a person is once saved he can not be lost. his penalty will be at the judgement seat of Christ where his actions and inactions will be judged for rewards. a reprobate is not encouraged to live loosely.

that sin is among the church all we have to do is read the epistles of paul. he was constantly prodding believers to come out of sin and serve God. the amount of believers who do so continually is very low. most are sunday and wend. christians. they follow jesus like the crowds of His day for the fish, loaves and miracles...

be blessed bredder. hope to come to JA in the near future. Got a cd of chevelle franklyn. she is awesome.


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Default true true. - 24-01-08, 06:02 PM

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Actually, I do not live in Jamaica. I live in Florida USA. Hoping you do well with that CD. I will be putting up sermons and lessons on line; I need your prayers on that.
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Actually, I do not live in Jamaica. I live in Florida USA. Hoping you do well with that CD. I will be putting up sermons and lessons on line; I need your prayers on that.
Thank you. I was last in Orlando a few years ago. Also in the little town just south of the space launch site. Melbourne it was.

Have an old cousin who used to pastor in Ft. Myers years ago.

I want to send something to a prisoner. I am looking through the menu to find a fitting one for his situation. As you know Louisiana is strong with witchcraft all over but especially down south. New Orleans has always been a place that was said to be a place you could go to get what you needed. Voodoo was openly practiced down there.

Take heart brother and keep up the work for Christ. As you know only that will last.


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Yes a person can fall from Grace.

It's is the repeated rejection of the Holy Spirit (grieving the Holy Spirit).

This is not because God does not want to forgive you. It is that you've rejected God so much that you don't want forgiveness anymore so you dont ask for it.
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Yes a person can fall from Grace.

It's is the repeated rejection of the Holy Spirit (grieving the Holy Spirit).

This is not because God does not want to forgive you. It is that you've rejected God so much that you don't want forgiveness anymore so you dont ask for it.
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When was it proven there was such a thing as HAVING GRACE?

Does Ethiopian Christianity have the GRACE concept that European Christianity does?


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what is grace according to the bible?

What does grace do?

Who does it come from?


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Grace is every thing that God does for us.
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