This is a question for those out there. Is it wrong to bring alternative knowledge about Christianity to Christians. Done this to my cousin last night and was castigated by my brother for "taking away a mans crutch/ maybe his only crutch".

So what oonu think?

Agree with your mother, now, lol. People come to their own understandings in their own time and their own way.

Now if a Christian initiates a discussion or bothers me by quoting and so on then I'll bring it. If not then I have now learned to just leave people to it. Scientologists, Wiccans, Mulsims and Christians... Not my business.

bredder tukoma:

In 1968 I attended Southern University in Baton Rouge, La. I roomed with some upper classmen from my home town in North Louisiana. Had been in church all my life. One night shortly after arriving there we had company over. One of the guys was studying philosophy and we got into a conversation where religion came up.

It was asked of me if I believed in Jesus Christ and after my affirmative reply the questioning began and I had no knowledge of much of anything. Having been brought up in one of the old fashioned emotional churches where the pastor "whooped" and hollered till he got the sisters shouting. No teaching what so ever.

I was out done and did not even continue to go to church anymore.

I am studying christianity today and have very little knowledge, but I go to a church where my pastor is an excellent teacher and tells us to not take anything he says for granted but to read it and make the choice for your self.

I can tell you that people who use Christianity as a crutch are in trouble. It is not a crutch but a life style to be lived. your alternative knowledge is quite possibly your crutch wouldn't you say.

tukoma I usually do not argue with people who try to put down Christianity. There minds are made up and it does no good. but i will readily discuss issues.

I believe that the bible is the inspired word of God tukoma. written over a 2500 year span by at least 40 different authors. And that every word support every other word.

I know christians who are easily frustrated by agitation. I have had some tell me that I should not be talking with muslims and non believers. I offer the example of Jesus. He did not spend much time with the 'religious', he was in the streets and crowds. i am not going to partake of any sinful practices that anyone else does. but i will converse with them to a point.

no fear her tukoma.

but rather fruitless and futile...!

Thanks for the comments. Let me just clarify Im not brow beating a man. Simply give them a DVD and tell them watch this "bredren".
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I know christians who are easily frustrated by agitation. I have had some tell me that I should not be talking with muslims and non believers.

Its this type that Im talking about. Is it morally wrong to be showing these guys an alternative view. Is there a danger of smahing their beliefs and leaving them with a void.

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My question is not " is it wrong to argue with Christians about their religion". But rather "is it wrong to show them any alternative knowledge at all?"

aha msfine, is it just discussion of christianity that is futile and fruitless...

now that is what bothers me....

so called academes want to tell you what you thinkin' and then tell you that what you think is irrelevant. What do you look like telling a chinese that noodles are irrelevant?

it is the same with christianity.

just as there are some scientists who are pushy and arrogant, there also are some philosophers who you do not want to spend much time with.

in every field of endeavor there are people who do not get the big picture. they are in banking, realestate, chemical science, economics, the gamut. there are people who are not qualified to push the mantle.

I probably have taken the worst of the criticism as a christian (no look for pity bredder tukoma) and yet I doubt if one of my antagonist can say that i pushed at them. i defended my calling. many christians do not know how to witness and end up turning others off. Jesus did not do that. He was patient and forbearing yet He said what needed to be said when it needed to.

I have been asking the question for ages on here and not one of the anti christians (who know more about the bible than Jesus Himself) can give me the first point of how race and color has anything to do with salvation. not one.

you only preach that the white man changed it up and brainwashed us. if he did then why didn't he 'juice up' race and color to tie it in with the crux of christianity is all about?

that was awefully dumb of him if he left whiteness as insignificant isn't it?

and one of you please show me how God through the prophets put His reputation on the nation israel 1000s of years ago and it still is holding true TODAY? tell me....

no in both cases. to the one i misread as you pointed out and to the correct one. if you can smash and make void a persons belief then they were not beholding of sound knowledge bredder.

i will declare here and now that there is nothing that you can say or do to smash my trust in God. I may not be able to answer every question you ask or refute any detail bredder, but just as you are adamant about christianity and religions being a what ever so am i to the opposite.

don't worry, i don't hate you because you speak ill of Jesus. in fact He told me to love my enemies, took a while to learn to do that but i did and see the consequences. it was like the form of korean martial arts I eventually learned. it took time but I learned it.

as far as alternative knowledge goes, well it is wrong to refute what others think is "alternative knowledge".

in fact bredder tell me what is alternative knowledge. I know what knowledge is, but have never thougth about alternative knowledge.

is it like i can drive a car and also ride a horse. both actions involve travel, one is an alternative for the other i suppose.

now what is alternative to christianity?

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Bro dont personalise the question? As I said its a generic question and Im not interested in whether you support for christianity wavers or not. But since you keep answering as if Im addressing the question to you /its best we leave it there.

As reagrds alternative knowledge I would say it is knowledge outisde of the established norm pushed by government and churches alike. An example. You can go to a doctor and he prescribed you a pill for an muscle spasm. Or a Chinese doctor with "alternative knowledge" might stick a pin in you to open up energy channels.

So not playing semantics with words...what I mean is knowldege of Chrsitianity what is outside of what is the established doctrine or theory. Its not hard to understand.

My thing is how can a man question Christianity, but fanatically believe that a rubber chicken will rise like a phoenix?

bredder you are pritty determined to keep the discussion within your confines. every thing i answer does not fit what you desire the answer to be. is that a discussion or are you trying to dictate. jsut give me the perimeters and i will try and stay engaged.

i feel you on the alternative medicine bredderm that is clear.

but in the realm of religion, philosophy etc. there should be some things made clear eh?

does every religious practicer seek the same thing? are there any people who practice religion or christianity who is not 'consumed' or what ever certain ones choose to call it or not?

try not guiding the 'discussion' bredder and let's just let it flow. you may be able to help some of us, which i know is not your purpose. but i do know that their are geniuses scattered around the earth who are given for the betterment of mankind. some are under bridges, some in insane aslyums and some are just walking about. and then we have the pretenders....

oh and i thought i made it clear that my answer to your question was no it is not wrong to present a alternative(s) to christians. why should it be.

if a christian has studied the bible, he or she should be quite clear on the matter.